Open olyson opened 2 months ago
Preliminary look at the last 20 years of pSASU (101-120) compared to https://github.com/NCAR/LMWG_dev/issues/65 . The main difference between these two simulations is the new fire model: https://webext.cgd.ucar.edu/I1850/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_pSASU/lnd/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_pSASU_101_120-ctsm52026_f09_pSASU_401_420/setsIndex.html
I see mostly decreases in TLAI, which generally seem to correspond to increased fire.
Thanks for plotting these up, Keith. Would it be helpful to discuss these further? Have you already started historical runs? I'm curious what PFT max LAIs look like with the fire on, but maybe we can just look at these at the end of the historical run?
I have not started historicals. I could branch the f09 1850 pSASU and output pft-level data. Might be a good idea to look at that first.
Note, I'll create new datasets with 1921-2022 datm data that have merged CRUJRA - GSWP3 to get data for Antarctica.
Survivability and max TLAI plots for last year of pSASU. Deciduous tropical tree looks more under control than in #65 . C4 grass stills looks a bit problematic with lower LAI than in #65 and similar survivability .
Thanks @olyson. Lack of C3 and C4 grasses in savannah regions seems like a concern. Seems hard to untangle this from the fire and parameterizations suggested by @lifang0209 + all the other changes that came in with the 5.3 tag. Hopefully @linniahawkins and the PPE can bring back the grass 🌱 (I know it's a dicot seedling, but 🌽 also seemed misleading)
FWIW, soils around savannah regions a bit drier with the updated parameter sets, but what really stands out is how much more water stressed tropical forests are here comparing #65 (with new 'hand tuned-PPE informed' parameter file) to #62, with the older GSWP3 tuned file. Is this what you'd expect @djk2120? .
Maybe this warrant creating a new discussion thread, here or in PPE docs?
@olyson @wwieder @samsrabin Hi Keith, have you run CTSM5.3's historical case with new fire model and parameters, either forced by GSWP or CRUJRA? If so, could you please provide me with the case and output directory paths? I could compare them with the present-day burned area observations and see if I need to tune fsr_pft down to decrease the burning of C4 grass.
@olyson when you're back next week can you try using the new CRUJRA-GSWP3 data from 1901-2023 that now here /glade/derecho/scratch/wwieder/TRENDY2024/inputs/three_stream/
@olyson @wwieder @samsrabin Hi Keith, have you run CTSM5.3's historical case with new fire model and parameters, either forced by GSWP or CRUJRA? If so, could you please provide me with the case and output directory paths? I could compare them with the present-day burned area observations and see if I need to tune fsr_pft down to decrease the burning of C4 grass.
We'll have a historical run next week and will let you know, Fan
This has started (with blended datm files).
Some more diagnostics for the historical:
Okay @wwieder, what kind of candy bar?
Not a wager I'd hoped to win 😞 . As I noted above, BTRAN doesn't look notably high in these newer runs, which suggests it's not competition from the leafy deciduous tropical trees that's outcompeting the grasses. I'd suspect this has more to do with changes to root vs. leaf C allocation that came in the fire modifications. Maybe that's something worth relaxing, but we can wait for the PPE team to work some magic?! @lifang0209 diagnostics of historical simulations are posted (see top of this issue). Thanks @olyson
Description: Same as #68, but on f09 grid This will include a full historical run so we also get restarts (initial files) in 1979 and 2000 for B or F2000 cases.
Case directory: Locally: /glade/work/oleson/ctsm5.3.n04_ctsm5.2.028/cime/scripts/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_AD /glade/work/oleson/ctsm5.3.n04_ctsm5.2.028/cime/scripts/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_SASU /glade/work/oleson/ctsm5.3.n04_ctsm5.2.028/cime/scripts/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_pSASU /glade/work/oleson/ctsm5.3.n04_ctsm5.2.028/cime/scripts/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_hist
Sandbox: Locally: /glade/work/oleson/ctsm5.3.n04_ctsm5.2.028 git describe: branch_tags/ctsm5.3.n04_ctsm5.2.028
usernl changes:
****user_nl_clm:
AD
SASU
pSASU
hist
user_nl_datm_streams:
SourceMods: NONE
Diagnostics: Preliminary look at the last 20 years of pSASU (101-120) compared to Issue #65 . The main difference between these two simulations is the new fire model: https://webext.cgd.ucar.edu/I1850/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_pSASU/lnd/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_pSASU_101_120-ctsm52026_f09_pSASU_401_420/setsIndex.html
ILAMB diagnostics for the historical: https://webext.cgd.ucar.edu/I20TR/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_hist/lnd/_build_ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_hist/ Standard diagnostics: https://webext.cgd.ucar.edu/I20TR/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_hist/lnd/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_hist_2004_2023-ctsm52026_f09_hist_2004_2023/setsIndex.html
Output: Output (if still available): /glade/scratch/oleson/archive/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_AD /glade/scratch/oleson/archive/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_SASU /glade/scratch/oleson/archive/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_pSASU /glade/scratch/oleson/archive/ctsm53n04ctsm52028_f09_hist
Contacts: @olyson
Extra details:
AD: 280 yrs, 2.37% disequilibrium SASU: 280 yrs, 12.74% disequilibrium pSASU: 160 yrs, 2.55% disequilibrium hist: complete, 1850-2023