Open cecilehannay opened 9 months ago
@bstephens82: this has run for 12 years but I am not able to run the ADF at the moment. The batch scripts are broken again on casper for tcsh users. CISL is looking into it but if you want to want to have a look yourself, the output is on derecho in:
/glade/derecho/scratch/hannay/archive/b.e23_alpha16g.BLT1850.ne30_t232.060/
and the control is:
/glade/derecho/scratch/hannay/archive/b.e23_alpha16g.BLT1850.ne30_t232.054/
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looks like it is warming quickly. Here are plots of globally integrated ocean temperature and globally averaged SST for some recent experiments:
Thanks @cecilehannay I went ahead and ran ADF on the CAM output and I've uploaded that to the diagnostic website. Thanks @klindsay28 this is a good thing to be aware of now rather than later! I will try to see if I can understand what's going on there with the rapid heating.
I'll add that the F case test with this same taus setup looked fairly decent in terms of SWCF (full diagnostics here). But for some reason coupling is just killing the coastal Sc, unless it has to do with the length of the run (the CAM test was just a 14-month).
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looks like it is warming quickly.
Thanks, @klindsay28, for letting us know about the rapid warming. I am unfamiliar with the typical equilibration path in CESM. Could you please help me with some questions?
Thanks for your advice.
The warming is due to the positive RESTOM. It is the first run we do with taus and it needs to be retuned to get a RESTOM within +-0.3W/m2. The purpose of this short run was to see where we stay so we can tune the RESTOM. It is often hard to predict exactly from the F case what the RESTOM will be in the B case. The the rule of the thumb is the RESTOM in the F case is about 2 W/m2 larger than in the B case.
I'll add that the F case test with this same taus setup looked fairly decent in terms of SWCF (full diagnostics here). But for some reason coupling is just killing the coastal Sc, unless it has to do with the length of the run (the CAM test was just a 14-month).
As compared to run 54, which uses Lscale, I notice that this taus run (60) is warmer at the surface (TS), has lower PBLH, has greater LHFLX and TMQ and U850. Also the taus PSL shows weaker highs than observed. Those trends are mostly what we see in the corresponding F-case runs, except for PBLH, which is higher in the taus configuration. I wonder if the wind speed at the surface is inaccurate in the taus simulation.
The warming is due to the positive RESTOM. It is the first run we do with taus and it needs to be retuned to get a RESTOM within +-0.3W/m2. The purpose of this short run was to see where we stay so we can tune the RESTOM. It is often hard to predict exactly from the F case what the RESTOM will be in the B case. The the rule of the thumb is the RESTOM in the F case is about 2 W/m2 larger than in the B case.
Thanks, @cecilehannay. So should we usually aim for RESTOM~=-2 W/m2 in the F case?
You should target about +2W/m2 in the F case. Sorry if my explanation was not clear.
Hi @cecilehannay, @JulioTBacmeister and I are wondering about the initialization of this 060 run. I don't know the details of how CESM is typically initialized or if the initialization has changed recently, but Julio was curious about it, for example whether the "ocean atlas" is being used to initialize the SSTs. Here is a plot I made which shows the average SSTs for this run and my CAM FLTHIST run with the same CLUBB setup, Julio and I were surprised at how similar the SSTs are, since we were expecting the coupled SSTs to be cooler since they are from 1850 (I think?). And in particular it seems warmer in the regions where we would expect to see near-coastal Sc. Anyway if you are able to help us understand the initialization that would be appreciated!
@bstephens82: yes, we are using the January climatology from the World Ocean Atlas 2018 as initial conditions.
Description: Same as https://github.com/NCAR/amwg_dev/issues/420 but with the taus code turned on and with a custom set of CLUBB flags & parameters.
user_nl_cam Same user_nl_cam that #420 + the following changes.
Source modifications Three sourcemod files for src.cam:
Case directory:
Locally (if still available):
/glade/p/cesmdata/cseg/runs/cesm2_0/b.e23_alpha16g.BLT1850.ne30_t232.060
On github: https://github.com/NCAR/amwg_dev/tree/b.e23_alpha16g.BLT1850.ne30_t232.060
Sandbox:
Locally (if still available):
/glade/work/hannay/cesm_tags/cesm2_3_alpha16g
On github: https://github.com/ESCOMP/cesm/tree/cesm2_3_alpha16g
Diagnostics:
Diags (if available): https://webext.cgd.ucar.edu/BLT1850/b.e23_alpha16g.BLT1850.ne30_t232.060/
Output:
Raw output on derecho (if still available):
/glade/derecho/scratch/hannay/archive/b.e23_alpha16g.BLT1850.ne30_t232.060/
CAM Climos:
/glade/campaign/cgd/amp/amwg/climo/b.e23_alpha16g.BLT1850.ne30_t232.060
Contacts: @cecilehannay, @bstephens82, @PeterHjortLauritzen, @adamrher, @JulioTBacmeister, @gustavo-marques
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