NESCent / hip_hack_howto

Hackathon guidance from NESCent's Hackathons, Interoperability, Phylogenies working group.
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IRB approval #41

Open kcranston opened 8 years ago

kcranston commented 8 years ago

Karen to talk to Duke IRB about what we need to do. Assuming:

aidanbudd commented 8 years ago

Karen, thanks again for dealing with the IRB for us on this stuff.

I thought it might be useful to make a notes of the things we could be asking the IRB about, in terms of the data, and analyses, we might want to publish, that we think it might be relevant for them to look at.

Data we could publish:

Analysis we could publish:

(In the future, I'd recommend collecting ORCIDs - even if they are currently problematic, I expect one day we'll all use them, would allow retrospective analysis in terms of co-publication before and after the events.)

When writing to the participants, perhaps mention that the lists of people participating in the events are freely available on the internet. Thus, the data and analysis we're suggesting we publish, could be assembled by others. What we're asking for permission to do (in terms of privacy and identifiability) is making it easier for others to find these things out, as they can see them just by reading our publication, not having to do the analysis themselves.

Let's also, if we write to them, ask them to confirm we have the correct github and Twitter handles for them.

arlin commented 8 years ago

I also have to do an IRB-like review with NIST. They do not allow any other organization to do the review.

arlin commented 8 years ago

my impression is that we are too late. NESCent has closed its doors, and there was no provision in the original consent for research uses. The privacy policy says relatively clearly that consent will be obtained to use information for purposes other than internal analysis of effectiveness and reporting to NSF. We are not proposing to do either of those things, Furthermore, we are not even NESCent, which doesn't exist. So, I think we can't use the NEAD data. We can either (1) forget doing anything with diversity data, (2) forget about ethnicity but assign genders ourselves, (3) re-contact participants to obtain the diversity information with a proper consent form.

hlapp commented 8 years ago

I'm not worried about NESCent having closed meaning we aren't NESCent. (Our past affiliations with and support from NESCent don't vanish with NESCent's existence ending. Also, by virtue of NSF rules for grant receiving institutions, there continue to be people responsible for stewarding the data, who can thus be asked or consulted.) However, the point about the privacy policy taking the place of the consent form if there is no consent form I agree with. This is compounded by the problem of small numbers, meaning for certain categories of diversity (especially any ethnicity other than non-white caucasian) the chance of inadvertent de-anonymization even for summarized data is high.