Data Elements with Default Codes but no National Codes

[AngelaFaulding]

There are many Data Element in the dictionary that have Default Codes but no National Codes, for example:

• https://www.datadictionary.nhs.uk/data_elements/organisation_identifier__code_of_commissioner_.html,
• https://www.datadictionary.nhs.uk/data_elements/organisation_identifier__code_of_provider_.html.

There are no Attribute Terminologies or Data Element CodeSets for these, as below.

Could you please explain how we create these type of items? This is something we do regularly so need to be able to do it.

[AngelaFaulding]

How are these added to a data set, i.e. string or Reference to CodeSet?

[pjmonks]

Firstly, I do not fully understand what national/default codes are and how they relate to each other. Also, if the two data elements you provided examples of should have default codes linked, then I don't understand why the ingest has not configured this correctly. These are questions that @jamesrwelch needs to answer as System C have not modified the ingest process in this area.

Secondly, we have already provided training to explain how to create terminologies and reference them. Are you requesting further documentation in this area from System C?

[AngelaFaulding]

Hi @jamesrwelch - could you help with this please as @pjmonks doesn't understand our issue. We need to understand how to create these type of items. This is something we do regularly so need to be able to do it. Does System C need to provide further training on this?

[AngelaFaulding]

19/08/24 - referred to James W.

[AngelaFaulding]

Peter to have a look and talk to James.

[AngelaFaulding]

This seems to be the same issue as #488 and is due to the ingest.

[AngelaFaulding]

How do we add a data element with no Attribute Terminology? Is it correct that we cannot do that until James fixes something?

[AngelaFaulding]

James is working on this and will be testing to see if this is fixed. This may be same as #488.