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TOC graphics is needed #28

Closed ohsOllila closed 7 years ago

ohsOllila commented 8 years ago

If you have any suggestions for the TOC graphics, let us know.

markussmiettinen commented 8 years ago

I would like the TOC graphic to include a picture of a PC lipid, with classic analog-display electrometers drawn next to (or on top of) the alpha and beta carbons.

ohsOllila commented 8 years ago

Something like that has been done here.

jmelcr commented 8 years ago

I think this idea is just fitting. I'd place the electrometer-hand on the places of the measured OPs. The big lipid would be in a suppressed environment of a bilayer and water and ion solution.

jmelcr commented 8 years ago

I'll try to make a sketch today.

jmelcr commented 8 years ago

How about such a Fig? toc_nmrlip2

markussmiettinen commented 8 years ago

Very nice! Would it work with α -> S^α_CH and β -> S^β_CH ?

jmelcr commented 8 years ago

Would it work with α -> S^α_CH and β -> S^β_CH ?

Yes, I'll change it, if it is accepted as a TOC, and after we collect here all suggestions/complaints/whatever.

jmelcr commented 8 years ago

Which of these shall I also add?

markussmiettinen commented 8 years ago

I would only add PC, none of the others.

ohsOllila commented 8 years ago

Thanks for the figure! I agree with Markus about additions.

mattijavanainen commented 8 years ago

The figure looks great, but here are a few very picky notes considering that most people see this on a low-dpi screen in small size: I would personally prefer to have the alpha and beta labels a bit larger. Also, the Ca2+ text could be more visible, by either a) making the white box less transparent b) placing the ion in the water phase together with others. The hands of the electrometer could also be more visible if similar white transparent mask is used for them as for the Ca2+ text.

jmelcr commented 8 years ago

OK, I get the point. I'll try adding some semi-transparent white background under the electrometer hands. alpha and beta hands will be increased to match the size of other labels.

markussmiettinen commented 8 years ago

Matti: Ca2+ text could be more visible, by either a) making the white box less transparent b) placing the ion in the water phase together with others

I would vote for option a), because having the ion in the membrane signals that we believe it does bind in real life, unlike Na+ and Cl-.

jmelcr commented 8 years ago

That was the reason why Ca2+ is in the membrane.

jmelcr commented 8 years ago

Update: toc_nmrlip2

mattijavanainen commented 8 years ago

Almost perfect, but "CH" in the subscript should not be in italics.

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markussmiettinen commented 8 years ago

Nice! How about leaving in just one ion of each type? That is, removing all but one of the Cl:s and Na:s? (I can see that you aim for total charge neutrality here, but I think we could relax on that one to make the figure less crowded.)

Tiny detail: I would write CH, instead of CH.

jmelcr commented 8 years ago

toc_nmrlip2 and with less ions toc_nmrlip2_lessions

jmelcr commented 8 years ago

Sorry, there's one extra Sodium..

markussmiettinen commented 8 years ago

Thanks! I like more the lower, i.e., with just one ion per species shown.

jmelcr commented 8 years ago

Corrected: toc_nmrlip2_lessions_corr