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experiments on increase critical colatitude limits for use of Heelis potential in dynamo #89

Open ZhuxiaoLi66 opened 1 year ago

ZhuxiaoLi66 commented 1 year ago

Aiming to change the TEC distribution along low- midlatitude (make it more centralise toward equator) with changing the ion/electron circulation, Tim & Astrid designed a test to increase the critical colatitude limits for use of Heelis potential in dynamo. For the detailed IPE code, increase the values of offset1_deg, offset2_deg by 5 deg to change crit(1) & crit(2) in module_colath.f in ./dynamo, so that to change pfrac (fraction of dynamo in solution in the NH. =1 low lat, =0 hi lat).
The runs for two storms (20230420 & 20031120) has been carried out, the results are encouraging and as expected with comparison with the control runs by the WAM-IPE tip version. For record, I revised the namelist varible values in GSMWAM-IPE/scripts/compsets/exglobal/exglobal_fcst_nems.sh to change the values of offset1_deg, offset2_deg.

ZhuxiaoLi66 commented 1 year ago

The following plots are the TEC comparison results between the test run and control run for 20230424 storm. TEC_IPE_crit12_+5deg_ori_20230424

ZhuxiaoLi66 commented 1 year ago

The following plots the same but for 20031120 and 20031121 two days.

TEC_IPE_crit12_+5_ori_20031120 TEC_IPE_crit12_+5_ori_20031121

timfullerrowell commented 1 year ago

Thanks Zhuxiao,

Yes, these look promising, as you say. Be interesting to see the bias numbers for the recent storm against Glo-TEC.

Tim

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Aiming to change the TEC distribution along low- midlatitude (make it more centralise toward equator) with changing the ion/electron circulation, Tim & Astrid designed a test to increase the critical colatitude limits for use of Heelis potential in dynamo. For the detailed IPE code, increase the values of offset1_deg, offset2_deg by 5 deg to change crit(1) & crit(2) in module_colath.f in ./dynamo, so that to change pfrac (fraction of dynamo in solution in the NH. =1 low lat, =0 hi lat). The runs for two storms (20230420 & 20031120) has been carried out, the results are encouraging and as expected with comparison with the control runs by the WAM-IPE tip version.

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astridmaute commented 1 year ago

Hi Tim and Zhuxiao, I could not have guessed the magnitude of the TEC change, but Zhuxiao’s results make sense to me. It might be difficult to tune where the convection reversal boundary should be.

We probably need to discuss how we pull together the different testing (crit value, SH convection, log interpolation …) to have an improved solution.

At the last meeting you asked about the bias for the 20-21 Nov 2003 storm with linear and log10 ion density interpolation in the transport. On page 3-5 are some diagnosticshttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1mvYhimJiOdnyWkMplk366gU7rQ7Cth9i/view?usp=drive_link – page 3 is the mean of TEC compared to MIT TEC, page 4 is the mean of log10 TEC, page 5 shows both.

I hope we can have a discussion once you are back. Enjoy the hiking, Astrid

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Thanks Zhuxiao,

Yes, these look promising, as you say. Be interesting to see the bias numbers for the recent storm against Glo-TEC.

Tim

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Aiming to change the TEC distribution along low- midlatitude (make it more centralise toward equator) with changing the ion/electron circulation, Tim & Astrid designed a test to increase the critical colatitude limits for use of Heelis potential in dynamo. For the detailed IPE code, increase the values of offset1_deg, offset2_deg by 5 deg to change crit(1) & crit(2) in module_colath.f in ./dynamo, so that to change pfrac (fraction of dynamo in solution in the NH. =1 low lat, =0 hi lat). The runs for two storms (20230420 & 20031120) has been carried out, the results are encouraging and as expected with comparison with the control runs by the WAM-IPE tip version.

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ZhuxiaoLi66 commented 1 year ago

Hi Tim, What recent storm do you mean? I need the driver files after Aug.30 on Hera from Adam, already sent the request. I bet this is an issue separate from the crit12 code? or you want to see the difference the code made for the bias number? I sent you an email with the latest bias correction figure up to 20230728.

Thanks Zhuxiao, Yes, these look promising, as you say. Be interesting to see the bias numbers for the recent storm against Glo-TEC. Tim

ZhuxiaoLi66 commented 1 year ago

Hi Astrid, Thanks for sharing. I sent an access request for your shared link. Agree the further discussion and please let me know how I can help more. Zhuxiao

Hi Tim and Zhuxiao, I could not have guessed the magnitude of the TEC change, but Zhuxiao’s results make sense to me. It might be difficult to tune where the convection reversal boundary should be. We probably need to discuss how we pull together the different testing (crit value, SH convection, log interpolation …) to have an improved solution. At the last meeting you asked about the bias for the 20-21 Nov 2003 storm with linear and log10 ion density interpolation in the transport. On page 3-5 are some diagnosticshttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1mvYhimJiOdnyWkMplk366gU7rQ7Cth9i/view?usp=drive_link – page 3 is the mean of TEC compared to MIT TEC, page 4 is the mean of log10 TEC, page 5 shows both. I hope we can have a discussion once you are back. Enjoy the hiking,

timfullerrowell commented 1 year ago

The two storms that had the spikes in the bias (jumped from ~.9 to ~1.2) that prompted the study. I was just asking what that bias plot against Glo-TEC looks like after the change.

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Hi Tim, What recent storm do you mean? I need the driver files after Aug.30 on Hera from Adam, already sent the request. I bet this is an issue separate from the crit12 code? or you want to see the difference the code made for the bias number? I sent you an email with the latest bias correction figure up to 20230728.

Thanks Zhuxiao, Yes, these look promising, as you say. Be interesting to see the bias numbers for the recent storm against Glo-TEC. Tim

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ZhuxiaoLi66 commented 1 year ago

Got it, will do.

ZhuxiaoLi66 commented 1 year ago

Hi All, the blue point in the following plot indicates the IPE TEC bias ratio against GloTEC on Apr.24 2023 after increasing the crit(1) & crit(2) by 5degs in the current experiment. you can see the experiment brings the bias ratio down about 0.14 from 1.24 to 1.10, the magnitude is larger than the effect of the last experiment (1.19.vs.1.24, shown by the black point on the same day ) Astrid did to change fluxtube points at the equator with too small ksi (volume) values (IPE_plasma_class.F90).
TEC_bias_ratio_20211101_20230429_para5_crit12_5deg_qksi

ZhuxiaoLi66 commented 1 year ago

Will show the result for Mar.24 2023 storm later.

astridmaute commented 1 year ago

Hi Zhuxiao, Thanks for the plots. I naively assume the original goal with the keddy factors is to adjust the neutral density but it will also affect the ion composition and TEC. We probably should keep an eye on both when doing any testing.

If you have time it would be interesting to test the log interpolation for some time periods (storm) where you already have some results (I do not think it matters what code version). There would be two things to focus on 1. the mean TEC variation (or bias compared to a simulation you have) and 2. the number of flux tubes with issues. The latter one you can get by searching (grep) for 'Conv issue in O+ H+' in all the fcst. files for the simulation and pipe it into a word count. You might be familiar with that e.g. grep "Conv issue..." fcst. | wc -l If you have the fcst files from your original simulation that would be great to compare the flux tube numbers "with issues" if no we can compare with what I have found

Below I add some instruction what would have to be changed to test the log interpolation. If you have time we can also talk about it tomorrow. This is only in case you have no other tasks to work on. Best, Astrid


For the log interpolation you have to change the code in only tow places. In IPE_Plasma_Class.F90 SUBROUTINE Cross_Flux_Tube_Transport

In the Q-interpolation change after !GHGM - Below the bottom of the tube at the Northern end

Change density(1:n_conv_spec,lpx,mpx) calculation to density(1:n_conv_spec,lpx,mpx) = log10(plasma % ion_densities_old(1:n_conv_spec,isouth,lp_t0(lpx),mp_t0(mpx)))i_comp_weight(1) + log10(plasma % ion_densities_old(1:n_conv_spec,inorth,lp_t0(lpx),mp_t0(mpx)))i_comp_weight(2)

after the mp,lp interpolation is done i.e. e_temperature(lpx,mpx)lp_comp_weight(lpx)mp_comp_weight(mpx)

            ENDDO
          ENDDO!
                  "add"
            ion_densities_int(1:n_conv_spec)  = 10**ion_densities_int(1:n_conv_spec)

From: ZhuxiaoLi @.> Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 1:09 PM To: NOAA-SWPC/GSMWAM-IPE @.> Cc: Astrid Maute @.>; Assign @.> Subject: Re: [NOAA-SWPC/GSMWAM-IPE] experiments on increase critical colatitude limits for use of Heelis potential in dynamo (Issue #89)

Hi All, the blue point in the following plot indicates the IPE TEC bias ratio against GloTEC on Apr.24 2023 after increasing the crit(1) & crit(2) by 5degs in the current experiment. you can see the experiment brings the bias ratio down about 0.14 from 1.24 to 1.10, the magnitude is larger than the effect of the last experiment (1.19.vs.1.24, shown by the black point on the same day ) Astrid did to change fluxtube points at the equator with too small ksi (volume) values (IPE_plasma_class.F90). [TEC_bias_ratio_20211101_20230429_para5_crit12_5deg_qksi]https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/22546571/272063055-04b5d5a0-6146-4380-aaa6-8eb9598857ab.png

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ZhuxiaoLi66 commented 1 year ago

Hi Astrid, I will go to the office tomorrow, I bet you will also come? Let us talk about this experiment in person. I also have some questions about the shared document on your log density experiment. Thanks, Zhuxiao

ZhuxiaoLi66 commented 1 year ago

Astrid, just recalled that tomorrow will be the monthly maintenance day for Hera, going to send a separate email to you for further discussion and some other issues, including the tidal analysis package.

ZhuxiaoLi66 commented 1 year ago

In the following plot, the crit12 experiment result for Mar.24 2003 storm has been added. it is consistent with the storm of Apr.24, 2003.

TEC_bias_ratio_20211101_20230429_para5_crit12_5deg_qksi