[EN][Cata] Epic Cataclysm Item Bind when Equip

[Illusie]

Reporter(Player/Character) Name: ----

Description: This report is specificly about - Gilnean Ring of Ruination http://cata-shoot.tauri.hu/?item=67136 Since I own it on my one of my characters and it's Soulbound by default and I can't mail/trade it to my other Alt.

But - I suggest you to check the drop chance & boe of all the items that suppost to drop from any Cata mobs Item such as Dory's Finery, Dorian's Lost Necklace, Je'Tze's Sparkling Tiara, Drape of Inimitable Fate there is about 15-20 items. Include profession items such as Formula: Enchant Bracer - Mighty Intellect

The drop chance of each Item I could not find a source. And every source gives different drop chance.

Current behaviour: Gilnean Ring of Ruination is Soulbound before equipped.

Expected behaviour: Should be BoE and get Soulbound only when equipped.

Steps to reproduce the problem:

1. hmm..

[virpyre]

1) If you roll on a "bind on pickup" item and win it, it can be traded to another member of the group who could have won it on the roll for a period of time. (Boss drops are almost always BOP.)

2) If you roll "Greed" on a "bind on equip" item and win it, It can be still be traded to another member of the group before the group leaves the instance. Some also say it can also be traded to any party members of said group and turned back into a bind on equip" item.

3) if you roll "Need" on a "bind on equip" item and win it, it can NOT be traded to another member of the group who could have won it on the roll - nor can it be sold on the AH, sent to an alt, stuck in the guild bank, ETC. It becomes souldbound as if you had already equipped it.

[Illusie]

@virpyre source? Because on Hades & ATS it's work the way I said.

We talk specificly about those items which are WORLD drop (Any cata mobs) and suppost to work like Epic Trash items. Epic Trash items are items you can put on AH or Mail or Trade with someone that wasn't in your group.

For example Scale of Life (http://cata-shoot.tauri.hu/?item=68915) is Epic item drop from Firelands NPCs The Item is BoE and people able sell it on AH Proof: https://imgur.com/a/iWiATeu

I think what you wrote above is about Epic items drop from Bosses which you can trade within 2 hours with group member.

[Illusie]

Ok here is a proof those items on list suppost to be BoE

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Gilnean_Ring_of_Ruination https://wow.gamepedia.com/Ritssyn%27s_Ruminous_Drape

"This item is a random world drop from Cataclysm mobs."

as I said those Items can drop from Cata zones NPCs randomly. so there is nothing to do with rolls Need or Greed For example - You can go to Hyjal do random quest kill random NPCs and epic Item can drop and all this time to not be in group And if you are not in group there no rolls on Item.

So please fix the all Items according to the list posted above

tbh I would say it's pretty high priority. those Items for many classes & specs are BiS or pre-raid BiS. I also suggest you to check the loot table and drop chance since they there is a chance to drop from Any NPC on Cata maps. and I didn't saw anyone wearing those items yet.

[Illusie]

https://imgur.com/a/dT06SJ8 https://imgur.com/a/Oxn1G4q https://imgur.com/a/9EN09cu https://imgur.com/a/gzg1l2a

those screenshots are taken from Hades.

[Gubbyfishy]

It depends on the way you looted the item. If you won it through a need roll, it binds to you. In your case, the acquisition is not specified. This is what Virpyre tried pointing out to you.

If it is greed rolled or looted solo, however, it acts as a regular BoE and, as you so thoroughly provided, can be traded, posted or auctioned.

Staff can test this by adding the item in question to themselves with a clean cache and check its bind status.

[Illusie]

The Item dropped when I was on Priest (How I know it? Because I have that Item on priest lol). since that Ring (Gilnean) is for Agility user I think you don't even can select Need, it's grayed/disabled. so having Soulbound on the item is impossible unless I wore it and I don't cuz I'm not dumb enough to do it. lol Sadly I don't remember how I got the Ring if it was with group or not.

Because of it we have three scenario:

1. It dropped when I wasn't on group, no group = no rolls. and it's Soulbound by default = bug.

2. It was on group but as Priest you can't select Need so it was Greed rolls and I won it . And Item is Soulbound and not BoE = bug.

3. It was on group but as Priest you can select Need and I selected Need. and Item became Soulbound = no bug.

Now I believe that option "3" cannot l even happen!

Proof: http://wow.mmosite.com/updates/new_loot_rules.shtml

"players whose currently assigned class role (Tank, Healer or Damage) matches the class role that a piece of armor or a weapon is flagged for will receive +100 to their Need roll."

proof by contradiction is good way to show that option "3" cannot happen and it's definitely a bug.

You still welcome to correct me If you believe I'm wrong Im writing this comment at 3:05 am sleepy af.

[Gubbyfishy]

It is possible with your proposed options 1 and 2, but the new loot rules link only applies to Raid Finder conditions, which for obvious reasons has no influence over world, dungeon finder or normal raids with NB4G loot setting.

[Illusie]

dude, don't confuse me lol. the Item wasn't dropped from any raid or raid finder I found it before I did my first raid.

And if you say the rules are applies only for Raid Finder condition its just strengthen my case. so what vypire said is false.

[virpyre]

Were you in a party or were you by yourself?

In a Party: A plan was implemented by Blizzard where the system in place had winning item via Need (when using the Dungeon Finder Need Before Greed loot system) will make a BoE item soulbound. We hope to have this working for the 4.2 patches.

By Yourself: When soloing, looting is easy — a "lootable" corpse emits a "glistening" effect, and the cursor will change to the "trade" cursor when you mouse over the corpse.

[Illusie]

Gave up on explaining, do whatever you want good luck.