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[EN][Paladin][Ret] Repentance probably break from Censure and/or GoAK #203

Open Illusie opened 5 years ago

Illusie commented 5 years ago

Reporter(Player/Character) Name: ----

Description: Guardian of Ancient Kings breaking Repentance. (Gamebreaking)

Current behaviour: Guardian of Ancient Kings breaking Repentance.

Expected behaviour: GoAK should not break the Aura instead the GoAK should run back to his owner till Repentance aura go off or Paladin / Other player breaking it by casting/using spells/abilites.

I was hitted up by Ret paladin he repetance me to close gap and repentance broke off instantly probably cause Guardian or Censure(DoT) or by Ret himself but I'm pretty sure it was the Guardian.

Steps to reproduce the problem:

virpyre commented 5 years ago

Repentance is considered a CC ability with an 8-second duration in PvP it can be used as a basic stun/interrupt, halting important casts or giving them time to heal. Its 30yd (buffed in 4.2 to a 30-yard range) range means it can be useful against ranged types, allowing them to get close to you while stopping your attacks. Censure debuff - caused by Seal of Truth - will not break the effect of Repentance. Repentance is also considered a magic effect it can be dispelled

The Retribution version of Guardian of Ancient Kings also benefits from the paladin's hit and expertise.

They might have used a macro:

#showtooltip
/cast [@focustarget, harm, nodead] Guardian of Ancient Kings

The most common tactic used by Ret Paladins in PvP is:

  1. Drops Censure via Judgement.
  2. Paladin uses Repentance on the target, then doesn't attack.
  3. Wait for them to pop their PvP Trinket out of Repentance.
  4. Then Paladin uses Hammer of Justice w/ Guardian of Ancient Kings = Instant Win in 6 seconds.
Illusie commented 5 years ago

I don't know where you take those sources from But Repentance is 6 sec Incapacitate crowd control. Applying Magic effect which you can dispel.

The range as far I know is not 30yard it's less

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Repentance

Meditation incapacitates the enemy target for 1 min. Any damage other than Censure will awaken the target. Usable against Demons, Dragonkin, Giants, Humanoids, and Undead.

The report is clearly saying that somehow maybe GoAK melee hits or Censure(DoT) are breaking the CC it should not.

Since I was in BG. I can't be sure who broke the CC The Paladin himself, the GoAK or if the Censure DoT I had on me.

virpyre commented 5 years ago

This is the version of the spell that is used - http://cata-shoot.tauri.hu/?spell=20066. In 4.2.0 it was upped from 20-yd to 30-yd,

The 60 seconds only applies to PvE situations, the PvP version only lasts for 6 seconds.

Illusie commented 5 years ago

No one claimed it's should not break from AoE or other DoTs or Direct damage / Melee hits. No one claimed mage can blink if he under that CC.

I claimed the Repentance is breaking from Paladin's own Censure-Dot or GoAK keep melee attacking the target under that Aura.

About the range It's probably 30yard confirmed I used addon to check it out here results: I went to max range till Icon go Red. (30-35 is 30) Than did just one step when it go Normal (25-30 is 29)

https://imgur.com/a/xsUIY1A

virpyre commented 5 years ago

Then change [EN][Paladin][Ret] Guardian of Ancient Kings to [EN][Paladin][Ret] Repentance breaking from Censure-Dot & GoAK.

Gubbyfishy commented 5 years ago

It works fine with Censure. It is intended to break from everything else, including GoAK. There is little way to prevent the summon from breaking it, as it is designed to always pursue your current target.

Illusie commented 5 years ago

No it's not suppost to break from GoAK GoAK need stop to attack if target is cc'd by Repentance

8:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx7riFOSxYs

Gubbyfishy commented 5 years ago

Okay, but if the issue on point is GoAK continuing to attack a CC'd target, it's an AI issue and you have to change the title again. It is currently misleading.

Illusie commented 5 years ago

Don't know what "AI" stand for lol.

I know 1 thing. Reading title and reach to conclusions is wrong, everything is detailed and explained inside.

I don't know which source broke the Repentance I had on me. If it was the Censure-Dot or GoAK melee or Paladin himself.

All what I know the Paladin that fought against me used it and it broke instantly. Since i'm honest player and I want play the game as it need to be I reported it. I could let the bug continue cause it benefits me but I'm not retard. All what I been asked is to check it out and fix it indeed bugged.

Commenting no sense "facts" are annoying. I had to dig into 3-4-5 Ret videos to find specific moment when Guardian + Repentance are happen at same time was not easy task which took me atleast 45min.

@NRG-Wow please avoid people from messaging things without proof them, It's just make it harder to fix the game.