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NVIDIA-ISAAC-ROS / isaac_ros_visual_slam

Visual SLAM/odometry package based on NVIDIA-accelerated cuVSLAM
https://developer.nvidia.com/isaac-ros-gems
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the thing just dont't make sense #77

Closed FPSychotic closed 1 year ago

FPSychotic commented 1 year ago

Orin NX use JP5.1,but there is not JP5.1 for it, ORIN use 20.04, so it use Foxy but Issac-ros use Humble in docker, docker is not given in Orin and Humble is not for 20.04, Docker is not given in Orin 20.04 image, I don't want use docker,I cannot use docker, I buy a linux board not a docker board, you make software for docker users , not for jetson users, you are nVidia not docker, so why make a docker board,

It doesn't make sense, from first day of ROS gems was impossible to use, in any update was impossible to use , still is impossible to use. Just bin the whole thing, I mean the whole thing and if you can the whole nvidia software ecosystem.

hemalshahNV commented 1 year ago

Thank you for your writing up some of your frustrations here. Let me address some of it below.

Orin NX use JP5.1,but there is not JP5.1 for it

Jetpack 5.1.1 supports Jetson Orin NX 8GB here. Perhaps this was not available when you last checked.

ORIN use 20.04, so it use Foxy Humble is not for 20.04

Jetpack 5.x is based on Ubuntu 20.04 which is a Tier 1 platform for ROS 2 Foxy (meaning, OSRF builds the binaries for it). It is a Tier 3 platform for ROS 2 Humble, however (meaning, OSRF maintains source compatibility but does not build the binaries for it).

Issac-ros use Humble in docker

We build ROS 2 Humble and required packages from source for you along with other configured libraries delivered as a Docker images to help solve the above situation (Isaac ROS Dev Base). Would a ROS 2 Humble debian package to install on Ubuntu 20.04 be helpful? Do you leverage any DNN inference packages such as isaac_ros_tensor_rt or isaac_ros_triton?

docker is not given in Orin

Docker should be available in JetPack 5.x but perhaps I misunderstood this.

I don't want use docker,I cannot use docker

I am curious why but I get that's not your point. You can follow the command-lines in the Dockerfiles themselves and prepare your own system. We're exploring supporting a bare metal setup but that does require users to do a lot more than just a "docker run".

I buy a linux board not a docker board, you make software for docker users , not for jetson users, you are nVidia not docker, so why make a docker board,

Besides the point here, but containerization is based on a key Linux technology of "chroot jail" providing a "lightweight" VM (share the same host kernel but partitioned environment otherwise). We provide our developer experience through Docker images for ease-of-use for Jetson users.

It doesn't make sense, from first day of ROS gems was impossible to use, in any update was impossible to use , still is impossible to use.

I take it that we provide Docker images to setup your environment and you don't want to use Docker, hence Isaac ROS gems are impossible to use?

Just bin the whole thing, I mean the whole thing and if you can the whole nvidia software ecosystem.

We're always looking for ways to make the NVIDIA software ecosystem easier for our users. We can't do it all at once but we'll keep improving to make this all better for everyone.

FPSychotic commented 1 year ago

No, it doesn't work with docker too. I oppened the issue.

I am curious why but I get that's not your point. You can follow the command-lines in the Dockerfiles themselves and prepare your own system

No, you cannot, again will fail to build in nvidia Orin NX

Besides the point here, but containerization is based on a key Linux technology of "chroot jail" providing a "lightweight" VM (share the same host kernel but partitioned environment otherwise). We provide our developer experience through Docker images for ease-of-use for Jetson users.

Easy is relative. As convenient, please allow me decide that myself, how is of convenient something that doesn't work and I need wait to someone upload a docker image with the fix when I could do it my self, or need take the limitations , bugs , time to learn of something that I didn't choose, nvidia chosen for me?, the native way of work in linux is native, and is what give you the control, that is what any company wants, if I want use docker, a VM a cloud I can do it by myself, I don't need nVidia chose a third party for me to use nvidia products.

Use Humble in noetic is a bad practice, as proof it won't install. And is wrong think a developer will do that, or that even doing it , that setup won't affect to other packages used by that dev. Do you think who use you packages, only use your packages?

Just doesn't make sense and just this thing doesn't work. search in Youtube by videos of robots done with ROS gems and you will find, none. Ask you why.

Good luck, for sure you are talented people, but something wrong with the company's politics and decisions.