ToS compliance: is this legit like GW2Launcher?

[lukycody]

Hey there. Nice little python script to automate the daily login. I like it, as its quite simple too!

One question though: is using this against the ToS/GW2 policy, or is it okay? I'm not sure - it's not doing more than one action/press per Person and account at any given time (multibox farming or smth). If you delete the step "open_reward()" it doesn't even do any actual actions in the game with your character. That'd be enough just to claim the daily login reward. As such it appears to fall into the same category as e.g. GW2Launcher, which also can automatically login and startup several account one after another. The only difference would be selecting the character to login with.

However Anets lists this scenario as being not allowed: "You cannot use macros for the sole purpose of farming items, currencies, karma, or other benefits in the game, particularly while away from the keyboard (AFK)" https://help.guildwars2.com/hc/en-us/articles/360013762153-Policy-Macros-and-Macro-Use

Also, could this even be "detected" and flagged as botting or a third-party-tool, as its not reading any game files (also in contrast to GW2Launcher), but just uses normal window functionality (focus, click, enter key press)?

[Naylepsh]

Hey. Thanks for showing an interest in the script :)

To be honest, I have no clue about the ToS compliance of the script -- I have not reached out to the ArenaNet and frankly I doubt that I would had gotten a response anyway due to the way they handle (or handled, don't follow gw2 much nowadays) such 3rd party tools, which is: say nothing until it's really pushing the boundaries (things like arcdps predecessor come to mind...)

This is quite anecdotic, but historically what ArenaNet meant by farming while AFK was something akin to botting while you're away for an extended period of time. Things such as scripts clicking Reaper's GS #4 or automated Engi turrets for farming karma / loot bags were okay-ish as long as you could respond to an admin's message on chat within a reasonable timeframe. For more info on these 2 cases I recommend searching on gw2 subreddit.

As for the detecting part -- They theorically could measure stuff like timing between inputs or input placements (as these aren't random in this script's case) and they could act on suspicious patterns. But such things could also detect innocent scripts like macros for instruments.

TLDR: I have no clue, you should use it at your own risk, but it has such a minimal impact on the game, that realistically they'd have to ban a large portion of community if they were to punish for stuff so insignificant as this.

[lukycody]

Thanks for the reply! Well, I guess then theres nothing wrong with using it while sitting at the PC/desk doing desk-work or study-stuff. I suppose you just can't do smth else with the PC (browsing etc.) while the script runs, as it will break the focus of the programm, right? (so you need to leave the inputs alone as the script runs through and completes)

[Naylepsh]

Yep, that's correct. GW2 has to be the active window for the script to work.

[ChoriSw]

Thanks for the reply! Well, I guess then theres nothing wrong with using it while sitting at the PC/desk doing desk-work or study-stuff. I suppose you just can't do smth else with the PC (browsing etc.) while the script runs, as it will break the focus of the programm, right? (so you need to leave the inputs alone as the script runs through and completes)

Heya did u try it , how's it going so far?

[lukycody]

Hey! Sorry, no haven‘t tried yet. Why are you asking? Aren‘t you guys testing and using it yourself when developing it?

Do you mean usability-wise or legit-use-wise though?

Edit: sorry ChoriSW, just saw it was you and not a dev of this program asking that. Did you try it by now? :)