riverfr0zen
commented
12 months ago Thanks for all your work so far on Notan, it is much appreciated. Totally understandable where you're coming from, and I hope that the shift in focus will allow you to pursue your main goals more effectively.
Couple of things:
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Will you still be using Notan as a base for your coming game work, or do you think your directions will be too divergent? I guess the underlying question is whether you think changes will trickle into Notan eventually from your work, or if that's not an expectation.
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I think a list of items or examples of the kinds of things you're looking for help with from potential maintainers will be helpful. Maybe even a sort of "mini-vision" of how you'd like to see things moving forward. People are often willing to help but may not step up because they don't know if they are up to it, or what is necessary.
(Also, I get that this is a time of transition for you, so do take your time with these. Just putting the thoughts out there for consideration as you have the occasion).
Nazariglez
woelper
Hello awesome people! I want to talk a little about the future of Notan.
Let's start by sharing that I am looking for maintainers. Notan v10 is about to be ready. There are some issues open yet to be solved (#276, #273, #267, #249), but I do think they are not a big deal (at least I hope so).
Why am I looking for maintainers?
In recent months, I've noticed that my free time to dedicate to Notan has drastically decreased. I've reached a point where I find it hard to justify spending my limited spare time on the project, especially when it currently doesn't provide me any rewards nor meet the objectives I initially set for it.
These objectives were mainly two:
I believe Notan is in a very good state for use, and I myself am using it to develop a game that I hope will land on Steam at some point. However, there are certain challenges within the project that need substantial improvement. I must admit, some of these issues have been particularly persistent and draining to address:
Improving all these aspects requires time - not just time to develop solutions, but time to experiment and think of good solutions that align with Rust and the project. Because, yes... sometimes Rust can be a pain, forcing us to rethink and refactor a large portion of a project, and this can be exhausting... And I would like to focus on making games or more productive projects than just consuming all my spare time supporting features I do not really use.
I'm currently looking for maintainers to help improve Notan, as my time has been limited. I appreciate your understanding and hope to see the project grow and evolve even as my role changes.
In recent weeks, I've been experimenting with a more modular structure where various elements like windows, graphics, sounds, etc., can be injected as plugins. While Notan already supports this, the backend still expects windows and input to be available. The result of these experiments is a considerable change in the API and approach, necessitating further adjustments across all systems (windows, inputs, graphics, etc.). I acknowledge that this level of overhaul is something I'm not ready to commit to at this time. Moreover, I anticipate that such a radical transformation, essentially making it a new project, might not sit well with the community.
I'd like the project to continue. I know there are people who appreciate Notan's approach and projects that use it as a base. I am really grateful for the community we've built, and the awesome users Notan has. That's why I'm seeking new maintainers to help the project continue.
Please accept my apologies in advance - this post is a bit of a "thinking out loud" moment. I'd like to discuss this with the community, hear your opinions, and see if anyone wants to step forward. Thank you!