Ban Appeal

[Soxiel]

Unfairly banned.

Was banned for putting up a magikarp on the market for a hefty sum.

Was not given a warning that this wasn't allowed.

[Yes it was a joke, but some didn't seem to think the lighthearted nature of it was funny apparently.] https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/3/36/Magikarp_Salesman.png

[Rasgnarok]

I am sorry, but you are lying. You were banned for eco breaking. You clearly had more than one warning, and staff provided you with the reasoning, as well as the consequence should you do it. It was not because you put a Magikarp up. I am disappointed you'd try to lie like that when discord keeps a record of chat.

[4:09 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: I ain't playing anymore, gonna go to waste

[4:09 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Glacier][Master][Deputy][B][QD] SpoopyBean[★][●]: sorry caps [4:09 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Aqua][Master][Mod][Ghost/Norm] Tom[★]: sell em

[4:09 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Aqua][Dream][Helper][QD][Water] FantaOrange[●]: we dont want economy ruin [4:09 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Great][Mod][QD] Star: Tp (other than people who found heads and Epic) if you are still hunting/want to for awesome prizes? [4:09 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Galactic][Dream][Deputy] SpookyShadow[★][●]: sell em for a reasonable ammount otherwise its considered eco breaking [4:09 PM] BOTMia: [Announcer] [Terra] If you are worthy enough to pick up the Builder's Hammer, join our building crew today! Message BlitzAsogi#2353 in Discord to apply! [4:10 PM] BOTMia: [-] iron_invinceble [4:10 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: Come to crates if you want [4:10 PM] BOTMia: [-] Hakiwa [4:10 PM] BOTMia: [-] honeybeehappy [4:10 PM] BOTMia: TheKaenCaster fell from a high place [4:10 PM] BOTMia: [Unova][Great] HyperWilson: What be going on over here? [4:10 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Great][Mod][QD] Star: tp again, I was in vanish :P [4:10 PM] BOTMia: [Galactic][Beast] deadricky: location 5 is still not found? [4:10 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Aqua][Master][Mod][Ghost/Norm] Tom[★]: sell them soxiel [4:10 PM] BOTMia: [-] TheEpicMadGamer [4:10 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: Pick a number between 2-6 Dalek [4:11 PM] BOTMia: [Poke] The_Golden_Dalek: 4 [4:11 PM] Ranger17: soxiel [4:11 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: ? [4:11 PM] BOTMia: [-] ldshadowkin [4:11 PM] Ranger17: put one up on market for 2k [4:11 PM] BOTMia: deadricky fell from a high place [4:11 PM] Ranger17: ill buy one [4:11 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Unova][Master][Helper] VillainAtHeart[●]: Is there an ice move tutor anywhere? [4:11 PM] BOTMia: [+] iron_invinceble [4:11 PM] BOTMia: [Poke] The_Golden_Dalek: i shall cherish this soxiel [4:11 PM] Ranger17: Do i have to choose a number [4:11 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: McConnell 1-6? [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: Wilson you too [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Glacier][Master][Deputy][B][QD] SpoopyBean[★][●]: you cant give em away [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Unova][Great] HyperWilson: So, Soxiel you leaving? [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: LOL [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: Tom to me: You are not allowed to give them away for free [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: Watch me [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: xD

[4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Galactic][Beast] deadricky: hi [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: They arent yours [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Glacier][Master][Deputy][B][QD] SpoopyBean[★][●]: you will get banned js [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [+] JensNEIN [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: For what? [4:12 PM] Ranger17: Soxiel [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: Giving away MY pokemon? [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Glacier][Master][Deputy][B][QD] SpoopyBean[★][●]: breaking the market [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: This isnt market breaking? [4:12 PM] Ranger17: Put one up on market for 2500 [4:13 PM] BOTMia: [+] TheEpicMadGamer [4:13 PM] BOTMia: [Poke] The_Golden_Dalek: i think he's leaving anyways [4:13 PM] BOTMia: [Unova][Great] HyperWilson: I see, i'll buy your pokes for 100$ each then [4:13 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Unova][Master][Helper] VillainAtHeart[●]: not that I agree with banning you for it but it does kinda mess up the economy.. [4:13 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: If I wanted to sell I would, I don't want to sell. [4:13 PM] BOTMia: [-] Soxiel

[Rasgnarok]

I'll give you one shot to try and make sense of this appeal. Because if you wanted to get unbanned, lying to staff would not be my first step.

[Soxiel]

I was already unbanned for this. And you're banning me again for the same offence? I'm not the one lying. That, or there is poor communication on the mod team.

Proof Discord chat between me and Starwarschamp after my first ban

[9:38 PM] Starwarschamp4: If you promise not to give away anything else, I'll unban you. Whoever banned you was wrong for doing it so fast [9:39 PM] Soxiel: And from discord too. [9:39 PM] Soxiel: If I were to be so bold. [9:40 PM] Soxiel: There was no explanation from a mod. Just a load of crap posted in the chat channel all at once. Which was hard to read as I had people messaging me about the shinies too. [9:40 PM] Starwarschamp4: Alright, still haven't heard an answer :stuck_out_tongue: [9:41 PM] Soxiel: I won't give away anything. [9:41 PM] Starwarschamp4: Ok, you're unbanned from Discord, mc is next [9:41 PM] Soxiel: :heart: [9:46 PM] Starwarschamp4: Ras banned you now ``

[Rasgnarok]

There's poor communication from the mod team indeed. Because he did not see that you had been warned, and you specifically did not tell him you had been warned. I banned you again because you clearly were told, and it was not such a victimized situation after all.

[Soxiel]

I questioned the warning Ras. Without an explanation on to why it was econ breaking I was instantly banned. That's not a warning. That's stating a rule with zero explanation as to why, when I clearly asked for that explanation. There's no enforcing rules if the admins cannot give a player the reason behind it.

I gave away 1 Pokemon. I didn't even give away a second. I was awaiting that explanation from your admin team. But I never got that explanation, I got a ban. That's just poor moderation.

[Rasgnarok]

Where is you asking why, Soxiel? I see you taunting, and I see the people online telling you it is eco breaking, and that you should sell for value.

You think it's poor moderation, I think you are blaming us for your poor reading.

[Rasgnarok]

Let me dissect your story-telling further:

Without an explanation on to why it was econ breaking I was instantly banned. That's not a warning.

Yes it is, you warn someone not to do something because otherwise you have to do something. They explained you that as well.

That's stating a rule with zero explanation as to why, when I clearly asked for that explanation.

You clearly did not ask anything, but the players online did explain what they meant by eco-breaking. Again, show me you asking clealry, if that's what you claim.

There's no enforcing rules if the admins cannot give a player the reason behind it.

No admin was online, and you didn't ask. You taunted.

I was awaiting that explanation from your admin team.

Again, no message from you to our admins. Don't pretend you wouldn't have.

[Soxiel]

[4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: For what? [4:12 PM] Ranger17: Soxiel [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: Giving away MY pokemon? [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Glacier][Master][Deputy][B][QD] SpoopyBean[★][●]: breaking the market [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: This isnt market breaking? [4:12 PM] Ranger17: Put one up on market for 2500 [4:13 PM] BOTMia: [+] TheEpicMadGamer [4:13 PM] BOTMia: [Poke] The_Golden_Dalek: i think he's leaving anyways [4:13 PM] BOTMia: [Unova][Great] HyperWilson: I see, i'll buy your pokes for 100$ each then [4:13 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Unova][Master][Helper] VillainAtHeart[●]: not that I agree with banning you for it but it does kinda mess up the economy.. [4:13 PM] BOTMia: [Magma][Beast] Soxiel: If I wanted to sell I would, I don't want to sell. [4:13 PM] BOTMia: [-] Soxiel

I mean, I did ask. I questioned how it would be econ breaking. I awaited that response and I never got it. I wanted an explaination. Like I said the chat log was full and I wasn't fully focused on it.

I wanted to resolve this quickly, and thought it would be cause it seemed like a joke to me, but you seem set on attacking me.

You know Ras. In some parts of the world, sharing your things with others is called generosity. Here it's labelled as against the rules and bannable from the game. Unfortunately if that's the way you see it, that's fine. I wanted to do something nice for some people randomly. Not for some hidden agenda as to break the servers economy. Like a couple of shinies could even do that. Ha. This is hilarious.

Honestly, it's shameful that it had to come down to this over something so trivial that didn't need to happen because an admin couldn't have a second of patience to fully explain a rule.

[Rasgnarok]

I mean, I did ask. I questioned how it would be econ breaking. I awaited that response and I never got it. I wanted an explaination. Like I said the chat log was full and I wasn't fully focused on it.

Yep, and you are still ignoring all previous messages of them telling you why or how it is market breaking. I don't honestly want to spend time quoting you piece by piece what you could read with a hot cup of chocolate milk by the fire.

It's not about your agenda, it's about establishing a fair market where people like you can't flood. Rules are not about a single player, but a pattern of player-actions we aim to curb for the better of other players. Not everything has to be about you, specifically.

Lastly, you did not give a chance to anyone to explain it fully because you taunted them as soon as you could, then gave away your first pokemon. Don't expect to get any mercy after you mock the MODERATOR (I really don't get why you keep saying admin, it's making things confusing for no reason lmao) and then you proceed to do what you want despite of being told it's against the rules.

[Rasgnarok]

If you couldn't tell yet, this appeal will be declined. I agree it could have gone smoother, but despite my mod's best intentions, it did not. Perhaps the next time you are put in such a situation you'll try to stop yourself when staff tell you it's against the rules, before breaking them.

[Rasgnarok]

Those events didn't happen in that order. I gave away my shiny before I "Taunted" Tom, who I

Actually, you were warned before taunting, so it still comes down to: 1) Being warned 2) Gifting poke 3) Taunting 4) Being warned again 5) Getting told to sell 6) You replying you didn't want to 7) Getting banned

[Soxiel]

"Perhaps the next time you are put in such a situation you'll try to stop yourself when staff tell you it's against the rules, before breaking them."

I did. I waited for the full explanation. Which you are apparently not getting. I gave 1 shiny away. And had another waiting, but stopped for this reason. I didn't know it was against the rules (there are people in chat saying its econ breaking but as I said, I wasn't reading chat until Toms message) before I gave the first one away and I waited for the explanation before trading the second one.

[Soxiel]

Check the chat, I didn't respond about the econ/mark breaking comment until Tom messages me. Which was after the first pokemon. I technically at the time of trading the first pokemon didn't know it was against the rules at all.

I was banned then, for taunting, and replying that I didn't want to sell. EVEN AT THAT If I did trade after. There was no official warning.

I was given, " [4:12 PM] BOTMia: [♥][Glacier][Master][Deputy][B][QD] SpoopyBean[★][●]: you will get banned js" this. This was my first indication that I could be banned.

You can read the rest. Obviously. But I didn't break any rules after I was told it was a bannable offense.