OACMPDM7 - What do to about entities (weapons, armor, etc).?

[The-Gig]

This is a follow up about what we started to notice here: https://github.com/NeonKnightOA/oacmpvol1/issues/14

Looking at the map in v4 beta 220411, we noticed the odd positioning of the weapons in the upper floor: there are three of them, two inside recesses in the pillars (plasma and rocket launcher) and one railgun between two pillars. I don't remember why it has been done this way, maybe for making it "more dangerous" to get the railgun? IDK.

In v3 it wasn't this way. There the upper floor had four yellow armors in the recesses and four lightning guns between the pillars. Maybe they were too many?

But I noticed the changes don't stop here, so I compared entities numbers between v3 and current v4 beta, and this is what turned out.

So, what I noticed is:

• Weapon loadout is very different (read weapon_ counts in the table above)
• Considering the map gives all players the shotgun on spawn, why having another one in the map? Because by default it respawns faster than ammo_sheels?
• There are fewer info_player_deathmatch now, IDK the reason.
• Much less armor available
• Insane number of target_location entities, which by the way even seem "duplicated" by looking at them (was already this way in v3). May cause useless network overusage, probably much fewer are needed.
• For some reason Moixie had the trigger_push enitites point to both target_position and target_push entities, while only one of them should be necessary. Current beta has got one less target_push entity (8 instead of 9) as it's the only one which has been "fixed", the other jumppads still have the strange "double destination entity" thing.
• Near to plasma and rocket launcher in the upper floor, there are some small bonuses which are very near each other. They do not overlap so they should be ok, anyway they may look a bit nicer if they were a little more apart, I guess.

So, I'd like to know opinions about what we should do with these entities. Should we restore something more similar to V3 (apart from the obvious problems with "suspended" flag), more similar to the current version, or try to find something in the middle?

[NeonKnightOA]

I'm reverting the changes. Don't remember why I did them in the first place.

[NeonKnightOA]

I'll revert the changes for the next version.

[The-Gig]

Tested version 230430. The item count is basically the same as version 220411 (I think now there is 1 more "light" entity), so most of the considerations of the opening post still apply.

A few more considerations updating/in addition to them, though:

• Maybe it's not necessary to revert all of the entities to what they are in V3. Maybe V3 really had too much stuff in it, for a such small map... Maybe one might just add a few more armor bonuses?
• Maybe Moixie did not accidentally duplicate the target_position entities, as it looks like those very near to each other in reality have different texts. Still unsure why there's the need to place so many of them (and to place those with "in the void" text so near to the map), also considering this map isn't officially supporting any team-based gametype, isn't it? (TDM and Elimination can still be played despite not being listed in .arena map, of course). Not sure whether we should do something about it or not.
• The way the info_player_deathmatch are placed around the map makes me think some of them have been removed by error. In case you decide to add them back in, don't forget to link them to the target_give.
• There are 4 item_botroam entities in the map. But they do not have the "weight" key set and thus, according to a few tests I did in a test map of mine, bots will completely ignore them. I'm not sure they are really necessary, though, as they look like to have been placed in order to invite bots to go near the jumppads (those used to reach the upper floor) and they seem to be already using the jumppads.