New reproducibility NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE breaks ccache caching

[Kha]

Describe the bug After https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/102251, a new -frandom-seed C compiler flag is inserted with a value that changes whenever the derivation hash has changed. This will change the ccache cmdline hash, completely defeating any use of ccacheWrapper etc.

Additional context Arguably, ccache should probably ignore frandom-seed since caching modulo that value is no worse than caching a cmdline that did not contain the flag in the first place, which effectively sets it to a random value. But it would be great to be able to at least opt out of the new behavior until this is "fixed" upstream (if accepted at all).

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module: programs.ccache

[tomberek]

The solution referenced by the lean4 package works to trim out the -frandom-seed.

[stale[bot]]

I marked this as stale due to inactivity. → More info

[Atemu]

Upstream has added support for the flag. https://github.com/ccache/ccache/pull/1168

You need explicitly enable it via sloppiness = random_seed in the ccache config file though.

Given that we enable it for all packages by default, perhaps ccacheStdenv should enable it by default too.

[timgott]

You can also enable that flag with an environment variable similar to how you set CCACHE_DIR according to https://nixos.wiki/wiki/CCache, by adding

export CCACHE_SLOPPINESS=random_seed

in extraConfig

[nixos-discourse]

This issue has been mentioned on NixOS Discourse. There might be relevant details there:

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/bisect-linux-kernel-without-recompiling-every-time/42633/3

[nixos-discourse]

This issue has been mentioned on NixOS Discourse. There might be relevant details there:

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/really-low-ccache-hit-rates-when-overriding-a-package/47421/4