Prok drum module

[MickGlossop]

Hi - I have Prok BD, SN & HH. Up until a few days ago. I was successfully using the Prok Drum Editor (Mac) software to edit and save drum sounds.

However, whilst editing my BD sounds, the editor locked up and I can't get past the intro page (which displays my 3 drum modules) and into the editor. If I disconnect the BD module, all is OK and I can edit sounds on the SN & HH modules.

If I swap the rear PCBs, the problem still stays with the BD module. Does this perhaps mean that the Teensy software has become corrupted?

Can I reset the Teensy?

Grateful for any help, please.

Mick

[Thonk-Steve]

Hi Mick,

If the module works ok it's unlikely the software got corrupted, it would just stop working altogether I think.

The developer is currently on holiday in Iceland so might take a few days to get a response on this.

Steve

On Thu, 4 Jul 2019, 10:45 MickGlossop, notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi - I have Prok BD, SN & HH. Up until a few days ago. I was successfully using the Prok Drum Editor (Mac) software to edit and save drum sounds.

However, whilst editing my BD sounds, the editor locked up and I can't get past the intro page (which displays my 3 drum modules) and into the editor. If I disconnect the BD module, all is OK and I can edit sounds on the SN & HH modules.

If I swap the rear PCBs, the problem still stays with the BD module. Does this perhaps mean that the Teensy software has become corrupted?

Can I reset the Teensy?

Grateful for any help, please.

Mick

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[Thonk-Steve]

Oh unless I misunderstood and the BD doesn't work even when disconnected from USB?

On Thu, 4 Jul 2019, 12:05 steevtron@gmail.com, steevtron@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Mick,

If the module works ok it's unlikely the software got corrupted, it would just stop working altogether I think.

The developer is currently on holiday in Iceland so might take a few days to get a response on this.

Steve

On Thu, 4 Jul 2019, 10:45 MickGlossop, notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi - I have Prok BD, SN & HH. Up until a few days ago. I was successfully using the Prok Drum Editor (Mac) software to edit and save drum sounds.

However, whilst editing my BD sounds, the editor locked up and I can't get past the intro page (which displays my 3 drum modules) and into the editor. If I disconnect the BD module, all is OK and I can edit sounds on the SN & HH modules.

If I swap the rear PCBs, the problem still stays with the BD module. Does this perhaps mean that the Teensy software has become corrupted?

Can I reset the Teensy?

Grateful for any help, please.

Mick

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[MickGlossop]

Hi Steve,

Thanks for getting back so quickly.

I’m pretty sure that the BD module generates sound and its own controls work OK, but I’ll check and let you know.

Cheers, Mick

On 4 Jul 2019, at 12:07, Thonk-Steve notifications@github.com wrote:

Oh unless I misunderstood and the BD doesn't work even when disconnected from USB?

On Thu, 4 Jul 2019, 12:05 steevtron@gmail.com, steevtron@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Mick,

If the module works ok it's unlikely the software got corrupted, it would just stop working altogether I think.

The developer is currently on holiday in Iceland so might take a few days to get a response on this.

Steve

On Thu, 4 Jul 2019, 10:45 MickGlossop, notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi - I have Prok BD, SN & HH. Up until a few days ago. I was successfully using the Prok Drum Editor (Mac) software to edit and save drum sounds.

However, whilst editing my BD sounds, the editor locked up and I can't get past the intro page (which displays my 3 drum modules) and into the editor. If I disconnect the BD module, all is OK and I can edit sounds on the SN & HH modules.

If I swap the rear PCBs, the problem still stays with the BD module. Does this perhaps mean that the Teensy software has become corrupted?

Can I reset the Teensy?

Grateful for any help, please.

Mick

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[MickGlossop]

Yes - as I thought, the BD module itself works OK. It’s just that the editor software freezes when it tries to access the module for editing.

Mick

On 4 Jul 2019, at 12:07, Thonk-Steve notifications@github.com wrote:

Oh unless I misunderstood and the BD doesn't work even when disconnected from USB?

On Thu, 4 Jul 2019, 12:05 steevtron@gmail.com, steevtron@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Mick,

If the module works ok it's unlikely the software got corrupted, it would just stop working altogether I think.

The developer is currently on holiday in Iceland so might take a few days to get a response on this.

Steve

On Thu, 4 Jul 2019, 10:45 MickGlossop, notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi - I have Prok BD, SN & HH. Up until a few days ago. I was successfully using the Prok Drum Editor (Mac) software to edit and save drum sounds.

However, whilst editing my BD sounds, the editor locked up and I can't get past the intro page (which displays my 3 drum modules) and into the editor. If I disconnect the BD module, all is OK and I can edit sounds on the SN & HH modules.

If I swap the rear PCBs, the problem still stays with the BD module. Does this perhaps mean that the Teensy software has become corrupted?

Can I reset the Teensy?

Grateful for any help, please.

Mick

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[Normalised]

Do you have an SD card in the BD module with edited patches on?

If you do, can you try the editor without the SD card and tell me if it still has the same problem.

If it doesn't then i'll have to think some more.

[MickGlossop]

Hi Martin,

Thanks for getting back to me.

The problem occurs with or without an SD card inserted into the BD module.

Cheers, Mick

On 12 Jul 2019, at 13:57, Martin Wood-Mitrovski notifications@github.com wrote:

Do you have an SD card in the BD module with edited patches on?

If you do, can you try the editor without the SD card and tell me if it still has the same problem.

If it doesn't then i'll have to think some more.

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[Thonk-Steve]

Mick we will send you a new one, could you confirm if your soldered male or female pins to the teensy itself? Any chance you could send us the broken one so we can work out the problem? Happy to pay for postage.

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019, 10:01 MickGlossop, notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Martin,

Thanks for getting back to me.

The problem occurs with or without an SD card inserted into the BD module.

Cheers, Mick

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Do you have an SD card in the BD module with edited patches on?

If you do, can you try the editor without the SD card and tell me if it still has the same problem.

If it doesn't then i'll have to think some more.

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[MickGlossop]

Hi,

Thanks for that. I presume you mean that you’re offering to replace the Teensy, not the whole module?

I’ve attached a photo of mine.

What address should I use to send it to you?

I’m not bothered about the postage cost, but thanks anyway.

Cheers, Mick

On 15 Jul 2019, at 19:18, Thonk-Steve notifications@github.com wrote:

Mick we will send you a new one, could you confirm if your soldered male or female pins to the teensy itself? Any chance you could send us the broken one so we can work out the problem? Happy to pay for postage.

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019, 10:01 MickGlossop, notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Martin,

Thanks for getting back to me.

The problem occurs with or without an SD card inserted into the BD module.

Cheers, Mick

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Do you have an SD card in the BD module with edited patches on?

If you do, can you try the editor without the SD card and tell me if it still has the same problem.

If it doesn't then i'll have to think some more.

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[Thonk-Steve]

Hey Mike, I just dropped you an email.

[MickGlossop]

Hi Steve,

Thanks for that. I presume you mean that you’re offering to replace the Teensy, not the whole module?

I’ve attached a photo of mine.

What address should I use to send it to you?

I’m not bothered about the postage cost, but thanks anyway.

Cheers, Mick

On 16 Jul 2019, at 08:41, altmag@mac.com wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for that. I presume you mean that you’re offering to replace the Teensy, not the whole module?

I’ve attached a photo of mine.

What address should I use to send it to you?

I’m not bothered about the postage cost, but thanks anyway.

Cheers, Mick

> On 15 Jul 2019, at 19:18, Thonk-Steve > wrote: > > Mick we will send you a new one, could you confirm if your soldered male or > female pins to the teensy itself? Any chance you could send us the broken > one so we can work out the problem? Happy to pay for postage. > > On Mon, 15 Jul 2019, 10:01 MickGlossop, > wrote: > > > Hi Martin, > > > > Thanks for getting back to me. > > > > The problem occurs with or without an SD card inserted into the BD module. > > > > Cheers, Mick > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Jul 2019, at 13:57, Martin Wood-Mitrovski < > > notifications@github.com > wrote: > > > > > > Do you have an SD card in the BD module with edited patches on? > > > > > > If you do, can you try the editor without the SD card and tell me if it > > still has the same problem. > > > > > > If it doesn't then i'll have to think some more. > > > > > > — > > > You are receiving this because you authored the thread. > > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub < > > https://github.com/Normalised/ProkDrumsEditor/issues/13?email_source=notifications&email_token=AIJPLBG3522IRV3NFXAAL6LP7B5TBA5CNFSM4H5W4ES2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGODZZVVPQ#issuecomment-510876350 >, > > or mute the thread < > > https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AIJPLBDVK22ZTLEXGMKNSWTP7B5TBANCNFSM4H5W4ESQ > > >. > > > > > > > — > > You are receiving this because you commented. > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > >, > > or mute the thread > > > > > . > > > — > You are receiving this because you authored the thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub , or mute the thread . > Mick Glossop - Music Production www.mickglossop.com

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[MickGlossop]

Hi Steve,

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but even with the new Teensy installed the BD module still causes the Prok Editor to lock up.

The editor works fine with only the SN & HH modules connected. I’ve tried connecting the BD module directly to my MacPro’s front panel USB port, instead of via the USB hub, (and disconnecting the SN & HH modules) but it still refuses to talk to the Editor.

I guess there must be something awry with the module?

Are there any tests/voltage checks I can perform?

Cheers, Mick

[Thonk-Steve]

Hi Mick,

Ah ok that's interesting, I would suggest you start trying different combination of front pcb, back pcb and teensy to whittle it down.

Does the new BD teensy work ok on say the HH module?

Steve

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:35 AM MickGlossop notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Steve,

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but even with the new Teensy installed the BD module still causes the Prok Editor to lock up.

The editor works fine with only the SN & HH modules connected. I’ve tried connecting the BD module directly to my MacPro’s front panel USB port, instead of via the USB hub, (and disconnecting the SN & HH modules) but it still refuses to talk to the Editor.

I guess there must be something awry with the module?

Are there any tests/voltage checks I can perform?

Cheers, Mick

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[MickGlossop]

The BD module woks fine using both the back board and Teensy from the SN module.

I swapped the 2 IC's (one at a time) between the SN and BD modules, and it made no difference, so they're OK.

So something is amiss with the BD back board.

I tried the BD Teensy (the new one) in the SN module and it exhibited the same problem as the BD module. This would indicate a problem with the new Teensy, but I'd have thought that it's very unlikely that 2 Teensys would be faulty.

Is it possible that a problem in the BD back board is damaging the Teensy?

To clarify the symptoms.... All 3 modules function OK regarding sound generation, triggering and manual editing. The BD problem only occurs when trying to use the Editor to change BD sound parameters. When I have all 3 modules connected via USB, the Editor works fine, displays all 3 modules on the intro screen, and I can swap between editing the SN and the HH modules, The problem only occurs when I click on the Editor's image of the BD's front panel in order to start editing its parameters. That's when the Editor freezes up. If I then use the file menu to quit the Editor (a keybd CMD-Q doesn't work) and then re-open the Editor, I can carry on editing the SN and HH.

Cheers, Mick

[Thonk-Steve]

Hi Mick,

Ok a couple of things to check, see if you're getting a reliable 5v out of the SMD regulator. Then use continuity testing to make sure the connections between the boards are all ok and none of them are shorted together.

Steve

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 11:17 AM MickGlossop notifications@github.com wrote:

The BD module woks fine using both the back board and Teensy from the SN module.

I swapped the 2 IC's (one at a time) between the SN and BD modules, and it made no difference, so they're OK.

So something is amiss with the BD back board.

I tried the BD Teensy (the new one) in the SN module and it exhibited the same problem as the BD module. This would indicate a problem with the new Teensy, but I'd have thought that it's very unlikely that 2 Teensys would be faulty.

Is it possible that a problem in the BD back board is damaging the Teensy?

To clarify the symptoms.... All 3 modules function OK regarding sound generation, triggering and manual editing. The BD problem only occurs when trying to use the Editor to change BD sound parameters. When I have all 3 modules connected via USB, the Editor works fine, displays all 3 modules on the intro screen, and I can swap between editing the SN and the HH modules, The problem only occurs when I click on the Editor's image of the BD's front panel in order to start editing its parameters. That's when the Editor freezes up. If I then use the file menu to quit the Editor (a keybd CMD-Q doesn't work) and then re-open the Editor, I can carry on editing the SN and HH.

Cheers, Mick

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[MickGlossop]

Hi Steve,

I’m getting a steady 4.97v from the regulator.

The connections between the boards all seem OK too.

I’ll a couple of photos to your Thonk email address.

Cheers, Mick

On 19 Jul 2019, at 14:30, Thonk-Steve notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Mick,

Ok a couple of things to check, see if you're getting a reliable 5v out of the SMD regulator. Then use continuity testing to make sure the connections between the boards are all ok and none of them are shorted together.

Steve

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 11:17 AM MickGlossop notifications@github.com wrote:

The BD module woks fine using both the back board and Teensy from the SN module.

I swapped the 2 IC's (one at a time) between the SN and BD modules, and it made no difference, so they're OK.

So something is amiss with the BD back board.

I tried the BD Teensy (the new one) in the SN module and it exhibited the same problem as the BD module. This would indicate a problem with the new Teensy, but I'd have thought that it's very unlikely that 2 Teensys would be faulty.

Is it possible that a problem in the BD back board is damaging the Teensy?

To clarify the symptoms.... All 3 modules function OK regarding sound generation, triggering and manual editing. The BD problem only occurs when trying to use the Editor to change BD sound parameters. When I have all 3 modules connected via USB, the Editor works fine, displays all 3 modules on the intro screen, and I can swap between editing the SN and the HH modules, The problem only occurs when I click on the Editor's image of the BD's front panel in order to start editing its parameters. That's when the Editor freezes up. If I then use the file menu to quit the Editor (a keybd CMD-Q doesn't work) and then re-open the Editor, I can carry on editing the SN and HH.

Cheers, Mick

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[Thonk-Steve]

Hi Mick,

If you put the teensy into the back board are you seeing good continuity between the pins on the top of the teensy and the pins on the other side of the back PCB?

Steve

On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, 16:49 MickGlossop, notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Steve,

I’m getting a steady 4.97v from the regulator.

The connections between the boards all seem OK too.

I’ll a couple of photos to your Thonk email address.

Cheers, Mick

On 19 Jul 2019, at 14:30, Thonk-Steve notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Mick,

Ok a couple of things to check, see if you're getting a reliable 5v out of the SMD regulator. Then use continuity testing to make sure the connections between the boards are all ok and none of them are shorted together.

Steve

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 11:17 AM MickGlossop notifications@github.com wrote:

The BD module woks fine using both the back board and Teensy from the SN module.

I swapped the 2 IC's (one at a time) between the SN and BD modules, and it made no difference, so they're OK.

So something is amiss with the BD back board.

I tried the BD Teensy (the new one) in the SN module and it exhibited the same problem as the BD module. This would indicate a problem with the new Teensy, but I'd have thought that it's very unlikely that 2 Teensys would be faulty.

Is it possible that a problem in the BD back board is damaging the Teensy?

To clarify the symptoms.... All 3 modules function OK regarding sound generation, triggering and manual editing. The BD problem only occurs when trying to use the Editor to change BD sound parameters. When I have all 3 modules connected via USB, the Editor works fine, displays all 3 modules on the intro screen, and I can swap between editing the SN and the HH modules, The problem only occurs when I click on the Editor's image of the BD's front panel in order to start editing its parameters. That's when the Editor freezes up. If I then use the file menu to quit the Editor (a keybd CMD-Q doesn't work) and then re-open the Editor, I can carry on editing the SN and HH.

Cheers, Mick

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Hi Steve,

Yes - it’s good on all the pins.

Mick

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Hi Mick,

If you put the teensy into the back board are you seeing good continuity between the pins on the top of the teensy and the pins on the other side of the back PCB?

Steve

On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, 16:49 MickGlossop, notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Steve,

I’m getting a steady 4.97v from the regulator.

The connections between the boards all seem OK too.

I’ll a couple of photos to your Thonk email address.

Cheers, Mick

On 19 Jul 2019, at 14:30, Thonk-Steve notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Mick,

Ok a couple of things to check, see if you're getting a reliable 5v out of the SMD regulator. Then use continuity testing to make sure the connections between the boards are all ok and none of them are shorted together.

Steve

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The BD module woks fine using both the back board and Teensy from the SN module.

I swapped the 2 IC's (one at a time) between the SN and BD modules, and it made no difference, so they're OK.

So something is amiss with the BD back board.

I tried the BD Teensy (the new one) in the SN module and it exhibited the same problem as the BD module. This would indicate a problem with the new Teensy, but I'd have thought that it's very unlikely that 2 Teensys would be faulty.

Is it possible that a problem in the BD back board is damaging the Teensy?

To clarify the symptoms.... All 3 modules function OK regarding sound generation, triggering and manual editing. The BD problem only occurs when trying to use the Editor to change BD sound parameters. When I have all 3 modules connected via USB, the Editor works fine, displays all 3 modules on the intro screen, and I can swap between editing the SN and the HH modules, The problem only occurs when I click on the Editor's image of the BD's front panel in order to start editing its parameters. That's when the Editor freezes up. If I then use the file menu to quit the Editor (a keybd CMD-Q doesn't work) and then re-open the Editor, I can carry on editing the SN and HH.

Cheers, Mick

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Hey Mick, have replied over email with schematics.

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Hi Steve,

Yes - it’s good on all the pins.

Mick

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On 19 Jul 2019, at 18:05, Thonk-Steve notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Mick,

If you put the teensy into the back board are you seeing good continuity between the pins on the top of the teensy and the pins on the other side of the back PCB?

Steve

On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, 16:49 MickGlossop, notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Steve,

I’m getting a steady 4.97v from the regulator.

The connections between the boards all seem OK too.

I’ll a couple of photos to your Thonk email address.

Cheers, Mick

On 19 Jul 2019, at 14:30, Thonk-Steve notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Mick,

Ok a couple of things to check, see if you're getting a reliable 5v out of the SMD regulator. Then use continuity testing to make sure the connections between the boards are all ok and none of them are shorted together.

Steve

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The BD module woks fine using both the back board and Teensy from the SN module.

I swapped the 2 IC's (one at a time) between the SN and BD modules, and it made no difference, so they're OK.

So something is amiss with the BD back board.

I tried the BD Teensy (the new one) in the SN module and it exhibited the same problem as the BD module. This would indicate a problem with the new Teensy, but I'd have thought that it's very unlikely that 2 Teensys would be faulty.

Is it possible that a problem in the BD back board is damaging the Teensy?

To clarify the symptoms.... All 3 modules function OK regarding sound generation, triggering and manual editing. The BD problem only occurs when trying to use the Editor to change BD sound parameters. When I have all 3 modules connected via USB, the Editor works fine, displays all 3 modules on the intro screen, and I can swap between editing the SN and the HH modules, The problem only occurs when I click on the Editor's image of the BD's front panel in order to start editing its parameters. That's when the Editor freezes up. If I then use the file menu to quit the Editor (a keybd CMD-Q doesn't work) and then re-open the Editor, I can carry on editing the SN and HH.

Cheers, Mick

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Many thanks,

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Hey Mick, have replied over email with schematics.

Steve

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Hi Steve,

Yes - it’s good on all the pins.

Mick

Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Jul 2019, at 18:05, Thonk-Steve notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Mick,

If you put the teensy into the back board are you seeing good continuity between the pins on the top of the teensy and the pins on the other side of the back PCB?

Steve

On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, 16:49 MickGlossop, notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Steve,

I’m getting a steady 4.97v from the regulator.

The connections between the boards all seem OK too.

I’ll a couple of photos to your Thonk email address.

Cheers, Mick

On 19 Jul 2019, at 14:30, Thonk-Steve notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Mick,

Ok a couple of things to check, see if you're getting a reliable 5v out of the SMD regulator. Then use continuity testing to make sure the connections between the boards are all ok and none of them are shorted together.

Steve

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 11:17 AM MickGlossop < notifications@github.com> wrote:

The BD module woks fine using both the back board and Teensy from the SN module.

I swapped the 2 IC's (one at a time) between the SN and BD modules, and it made no difference, so they're OK.

So something is amiss with the BD back board.

I tried the BD Teensy (the new one) in the SN module and it exhibited the same problem as the BD module. This would indicate a problem with the new Teensy, but I'd have thought that it's very unlikely that 2 Teensys would be faulty.

Is it possible that a problem in the BD back board is damaging the Teensy?

To clarify the symptoms.... All 3 modules function OK regarding sound generation, triggering and manual editing. The BD problem only occurs when trying to use the Editor to change BD sound parameters. When I have all 3 modules connected via USB, the Editor works fine, displays all 3 modules on the intro screen, and I can swap between editing the SN and the HH modules, The problem only occurs when I click on the Editor's image of the BD's front panel in order to start editing its parameters. That's when the Editor freezes up. If I then use the file menu to quit the Editor (a keybd CMD-Q doesn't work) and then re-open the Editor, I can carry on editing the SN and HH.

Cheers, Mick

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