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Satellite tutorials feedback form questions: #109

Closed sanjayankur31 closed 1 year ago

sanjayankur31 commented 1 year ago

@OCNS/software-wg we wanted a short feedback form to gather some information from registrants on sessions they attended, didn't attend, and what we can do to increase attendance.

How are these:

Thoughts? It'll be good to have these fleshed so I can send the e-mail out to them on Thursday (14th July)

appukuttan-shailesh commented 1 year ago

Along the lines of what we discussed during the meeting:

sanjayankur31 commented 1 year ago

Along the lines of what we discussed during the meeting:

  • Would you be open to paying a small registration fee to attend such tutorials, if they are accompanied with an official certificate of attendance ?

I'm hesitant to add this one. As we discussed, this is unlikely to increase attendance. It may reduce registrations to give us a better picture of how many may attend, but there are other ways of getting that information---for example @mstimberg mentioned that at the software carpentry sessions they hold, they had sent out another e-mail asking registrants to confirm what sessions they would attend.

  • Do you have any suggestions for making these online events more interactive and engaging?

We could merge this with the last "general comments" question, or the question about feedback to tutors.

appukuttan-shailesh commented 1 year ago

As part of a survey/feedback I would still be interested in seeing how people respond to the token payment for such tutorials (maybe just out curiosity :p) even if we don't actually enforce it.

But, yes, the intended purpose is to have a much better idea of the eventual turnout. As we discussed, for free online events it is normal that the turnout is always much lower. But when it goes down to ~15% we have a problem. It is imperative that we improve this situation as quite a few presenters expressed their surprise (and evident disappointment).

sanjayankur31 commented 1 year ago

As part of a survey/feedback I would still be interested in seeing how people respond to the token payment for such tutorials (maybe just out curiosity :p) even if we don't actually enforce it.

I am curious too, but I am hesitant to ask "would you register if we charged a token fee"? Given that without the token fee we had few final attendees, my expectation is that maybe a subset of the attendees would perhaps say "yes", but everyone else will just say "no". If we had 100s of attendees which indicated that the sessions we well attended, asking if folks would still attend would get us some info, but at the moment, I don't see why folks would say "yes" if they didn't actually attend the session. The question also adds other complications. It'll make people wonder:

Basically, i don't think it'll give us any useful information, and the thought required to frame the question to be able to get any useful information is not worth it. So I'd rather focus on "what can we do to improve turnout" than "what can we do to have more accurate registration numbers".

appukuttan-shailesh commented 1 year ago

As proposed during the meeting, any fee based registration would likely additionally offer them additional incentives e.g. participation certificate (thereby differentiating it from our current free setup).

We could maybe consider offering these digital certificates even with our free setup, whereby candidates who actually attend the session (and maybe additionally complete an assignment/exercise as "proof" of engagement) are considered eligible. Could be an incentive for better attendance.

sanjayankur31 commented 1 year ago

As proposed during the meeting, any fee based registration would likely additionally offer them additional incentives e.g. participation certificate (thereby differentiating it from our current free setup).

Yes, but we don't currently know what these are (and how much extra work this is for us as organisers in terms of logistics etc., and for tutors in terms of preparation, delivery, and post-tutorial work too), so I'd rather not include them in the current feedback form. It's something we can discuss with tutors instead.

In general, while we discussed charging, our discussion leaned more towards not charging because of all the extra work + complexity it would entail without any real benefits in terms of attendance.

We could maybe consider offering these digital certificates even with our free setup, whereby candidates who actually attend the session (and maybe additionally complete an assignment/exercise as "proof" of engagement) are considered eligible. Could be an incentive for better attendance.

Yeh, that could be done, but it has implementation issues that need figuring out---what counts as "proof of engagement" for a start?

We can discuss all of these in the future if/when we decide to do another round of tutorials. In the meantime, let's skip charging related queries from the form in this iteration since our focus here is on improving attendance, not reducing registration?

appukuttan-shailesh commented 1 year ago

I am quite open to keeping the feedback form more exploratory to (try to) better understand our audience (even though their responses are never binding.... as we saw with the registration forms).

But we can keep it simple this time, and go with the basic questions.

brenthuisman commented 1 year ago

Do we know anything about the signups? Can we say that signups from $institute_X or $country_Y have a habit of being no-shows? Or maybe people without any affiliation? Or students (is that a question on the signup form?)? Even if we change nothing, if there's a pattern like that, we could adjust the expected number of attendees for our own reference.

sanjayankur31 commented 1 year ago

Hrm, not really. We have their e-mail addresses, but generally, it's quite a diverse set of folks. We didn't explicitly ask what folks were doing or where they were based etc. because we wanted the form to be as short as possible (and we didn't think we'd need the extra info).

sanjayankur31 commented 1 year ago

Here's the feedback form folks. Could you all please take a look and let me know what you think? I can then send it out to registrants next week:

https://framaforms.org/cns2022-online-satellite-tutorials-feedback-form-1659102112