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which type concept id should we use to specify the data provenance: app genderated or manually entered using a paper form? #1020

Closed stephanieshong closed 2 months ago

stephanieshong commented 3 months ago

Describe the problem in content or desired feature A clear and concise description of what you found or what you want to add (including features, documentation, etc.) and how it is affecting your processes, ETL or analysis. If you want to contribute your conent or modify existing, please refer to the corresponding categories of issues.

There is no type concept id we can use to specify the provenance the data: 1) app genderated or 2) manually entered using a paper form.

We have Montreal Cognitive Assessement measurement data that we are mapping and ETLing into the OMOP CDM. These data can be app generated and it can also be manually entered from a paper form. We did not find a type concept that we can use to specify the provenance of the data source, i.e. app generated or manually entered from a paper form. We found the following concept ids, but they are not of the type_concept class 37161935 37161934

How to find it Help us reproducing the problem and researching the issue. Links to Athena concepts can be helpful.

Could you add following two type_concept ids that we can use in our ETL process?

The following concepts we found have the procedure as the domain_id 37161934 - information gathered from automated entry 37161935 - information gathered from manual entry The data we are capturing are for the measurement domain for various Montreal cognitive score and assessment for the measurement domain.

Expected adjustments A clear and concise description of what you expect the Vocabulary Team to change. If you have collected information in a spreadsheet, please share it with us. Request: following new type concept ids to describe the provenance of the data

  1. app generated
  2. manually entered from a paper form

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stephanieshong commented 3 months ago

@aostropolets and @cgreich - thoughts?

cgreich commented 3 months ago

@stephanieshong:

Looks like you are trying to reach us on all channels: here and here. Let's finish the discussion there.

stephanieshong commented 2 months ago

let me provide you with bit more context - use case 1) Montreal Cognitive Assessment tests are completed on the app but the assessment score measurement by the app is then entered into the survey form by the Procter. use case 2) When it is not possible to enter the assessment score via online survey form, the paper form is submitted and it is then manually entered at a later time.

stephanieshong commented 2 months ago

@TinyRickC137 - what was the resolution? I am not clear on the specific concept ids I should use for two cases mentioned above. Could you document it here?

Alexdavv commented 2 months ago

Hi @stephanieshong As @cgreich suggested let’s continue this discussion on the forums, come up with a conclusion and then proceed with a new change request if needed.