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The Moving Object Pipeline: discovery & tracking of trans-Neptunian objects
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timing for MegaCam #346

Closed ijiraq closed 9 years ago

ijiraq commented 9 years ago

There was a change of the controllers for MP during the April run. Information below... we’ll need to adjust how the stepZjmp works.

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From: Richard Wainscoat rjw@IfA.Hawaii.Edu Subject: Fwd: timing for MegaCam Date: May 21, 2015 at 10:13:58 AM EDT To: "Kavelaars, JJ" JJ.Kavelaars@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca

Here is our best knowledge of Megcam timing at this time. The change occurred in April 2015.

Richard

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From: Richard Wainscoat rjw@ifa.hawaii.edu Subject: Fwd: timing for MegaCam Date: April 24, 2015 at 7:23:09 PM EDT To: David Tholen tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu

Looks like the midpoint of the exposure is now UTCEND - 0.73 sec - (exposure time / 2 ) Wobble on the 0.73 sec is +/- 0.15 sec.

Finally making progress.

Richard

jmpetit commented 9 years ago

Question: How is it currently done in stepZjmp ? Answer: uses MJD-OBS + EXPTIME/2

Question: Was that valid ? I don't know: 1751521 is from 2014-10-22 06:50:23.12 which gives an MJD that match MJD-OBS to a 0.0012 seconds.
But MJD-END - EXPTIME/24/3600.0 - MJD-OBS = 49s.76s But the END should not include the 40s overhead...

conclusion EXPEND - EXPSTART != EXPTIME and thus one of those 3 numbers is wrong.

Question: Is it still valid ? David Tholen is looking at NEOs so the time is important to him. I guess he finds that time at start is not the correct time but time-end is. Apparently (from Richard Wainscot) that has always been the case. So, our exptimes are all 49s ahead of the correct value? A good way to check this would be to look at measurements from GEMINI and CFHT and look for a systematic effect in the residuals... but in 40s our objects go about ~ 0.04'' so we would only just barely see that using Stephen's improve astrometric solutions. Which I don't think GEMINI ColOSSOS data is tied to?

ijiraq commented 9 years ago

Hi, I've double checked this.

mopheader contains the value:

MJD-OBSC = MJD-OBS + exptime/2.0

RW claims:

MJD-OBSC = DATE-OBS + UTCEND - 0.73s - exptime/2.0

those to approaches differ by ~50s for exposure 1785787

RW's value is based on NEO tracking. We could not notice that level of difference. likely they are correct.

mtbannister commented 9 years ago

So we are still 49 sec incorrect on the observation midpoint, but only in the mopheader, and so the pipeline does not need alteration for the purposes of TNOs?

ijiraq commented 9 years ago

I'm checking with RW about the pre-April computation that PS uses.

We should fix all our times as the occultation team thinks time is important.