clj-kondo version scheme not recognized?

[lread]

First, a big thanks for creating this tool. I use often and very happily!

While checking on of my projects for outdated dependencies I noticed that clj-kondo was not reported as outdated.

If I take this contrived deps.edn:

{:deps {clj-kondo {:mvn/version "2019.09.22-alpha"}
        org.clojure/tools.reader {:mvn/version "1.1.1"}}}

And run:

clojure -Sdeps '{:deps {olical/depot {:mvn/version "1.8.4"}}}' -m depot.outdated.main

I get the expected result for tools.reader but nothing for the outdated clj-kondo:

|               Dependency | Current | Latest |
|--------------------------+---------+--------|
| org.clojure/tools.reader |   1.1.1 |  1.3.2 |

I noticed you are working on 2.0 (thanks! looking forward to it!), so I tried against current HEAD as well:

clojure -Sdeps \
  '{:deps {olical/depot
     {:git/url "https://github.com/Olical/depot"
      :sha "cc9e732f32a1cfb74c5427f5d36187b0dfa447e6"}}}' \
  -m depot.outdated.main

and got the same result:

Checking for old versions in: deps.edn
  org.clojure/tools.reader {:mvn/version "1.1.1"} -> {:mvn/version "1.3.2"}

As you can see on clojars, there are later versions of clj-kondo available.

I don't see anything odd in the clj-kondo versioning scheme. Just a stab, but maybe the leading zeros are an issue?

[lread]

Ok, I pinged @borkdude with this issue and we noticed that 2019.09.22-alpha is considered as qualified, which makes sense once you know what that means.

So if we change the command line to add --consider-types:

clojure -Sdeps '{:deps {olical/depot {:mvn/version "1.8.4"}}}' \
  -m depot.outdated.main \
  --consider-types qualified,release

clj-kondo is included:

               Dependency |          Current |                    Latest |
|--------------------------+------------------+---------------------------|
|      clj-kondo/clj-kondo | 2019.09.22-alpha | 2019.10.12-alpha-SNAPSHOT |
| org.clojure/tools.reader |            1.1.1 |                     1.3.2 |

If I leave out release, I get:

|               Dependency |          Current |                    Latest |
|--------------------------+------------------+---------------------------|
|      clj-kondo/clj-kondo | 2019.09.22-alpha | 2019.10.12-alpha-SNAPSHOT |
| org.clojure/tools.reader |            1.1.1 |              1.3.0-alpha3 |

So when I consider types, am I considering types to upgrade from or types to upgrade to or both? Once I understand I would be happy to add documentation if that would help.

For clj-kondo, I like to stick to alpha releases and never move to SNAPSHOT releases, is there a way to express that? Ah, perhaps clj-kondo's 2019.10.12-alpha-SNAPSHOT is unconventional? Maybe 2019.10.12-SNAPSHOT would be the expected form?

Normally, when I look for upgrades, by default, I am interested in moving from less stable to more stable (or a later version if that is all that is available), so:

SNAPSHOT -> qualified -> later qualified -> release -> later release

would make sense. Maybe that's how depot works already, and I just don't understand yet.

[borkdude]

If this is caused by the -alpha suffix, maybe it's a good time to drop it.

[lread]

I think that dropping alpha from clj-kondo would resolve the original issue I raised here for clj-kondo.

I think it might still be interesting to explore default upgrade paths and how —consider-types behaves for depot as depot approaches a 2.0 release.

[Olical]

Hmmm, maybe this won't be fixed immediately by 2.0 but it could be changed. I really need to set aside some time to get 2.0 across the line, I'm just buried in open and non-open source work right now, struggling to find the time. Got to make sure I leave space to prepare my Clojure eXchange talk too :grimacing:

[borkdude]

@Olical Good luck with your work and talk!

[Olical]

I know this was ages ago, but if anyone is still interested in this, the latest release has a much newer version-clj dependency which may have fixed the issue?