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Help requested: Creation of subcutaneous compartment for small molecule #200

Closed biju-benjamin closed 6 years ago

biju-benjamin commented 6 years ago

Hi I am trying to incorporate a subcutaneous compartment into a working iv-PBPK model to be used for population simulation. The idea is to use de-convolved cumulative-fraction absorbed profile as input from subcutaneous to plasma assuming no clearance in the subcutaneous compartment

Tried the following with PK-sim created a custom administration profile with skin as the target organ and interstitial space as target compartment. A table formulation was created with cumulative fraction absorbed as table values. Simulation worked As a second step changed the target compartment to plasma and repeated the simulation . Both results look alike visually.

Query -1-2 I doubt if any of the above is the correct approach considering that de-convolution of SC data with iv provides an input function/profile to plasma from the extra-vascular site, and I assume in the above cases the drug released is subject to a built in passive diffusion function inside PK-sim therefore

1) Any comments on a workaround with PK-sim

Tried the following with Mobi

Exported the working iv population simulation as pkml created a spatial structure for subcutaneous (organ, physical), defined neighborhood with venous plasma. Created a global compound parameter"'Sc_abn" with table as formula type , fraction as dimension and input the de-convolution data into table. In the passive transport building block created a new property "SubcutaneousAbsorption with a formula Sc_abn Total drug mass

2) Is the previous formula, the correct thing to do

I am not very sure of the next steps. If I can get some workflow tips, the following is what I need

Query 3-5

3) How do I specify dose for a simulation. Does it need to be defined in events (steps if any appreciated)

4) How to perform population simulations using this model by exporting to PK-sim with administration to subcutaneous compartment.

5) Is there a way to make this newly created 'subcutaneous compartment' appear in the user defined administration protocol after exporting to PKsim.

Thanks in advance

Biju Benjamin

krinaj commented 6 years ago

Hello Biju,

I do not think there is a workaround in PK-Sim. You will have to use Mobi. I had similar issues creating a nasal absorption compartment and Pavel's comment to my question (https://github.com/Open-Systems-Pharmacology/MoBi/issues/246) was really helpful. It provides step by step direction.

Hope this helps.

Krina

biju-benjamin commented 6 years ago

Thanks @krinaj for the pointer.

Yes, managed to work things out quite well. Going back and forth from Mobi to PKsim takes a while to get the hang of it, however I like the flexibility it offers to create custom models.

best

Biju