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Colours of `hydrogen` #1013

Closed l-emele closed 1 year ago

l-emele commented 2 years ago

Description of the issue

In the current scenarios (and political discussions) more and more often hydrogen is characterised by "colours". Hydrogen has of course not really different colours, but these are catchy names depicting different sources / processes of the hydrogen. Some examples

Some resouces describing the "colours": 1, 2, 3

Ideas of solution

We already have two subclasses of hydrogen (fossil hydrogen and synthetic hydrogen) that describe hydrogen with different origins. We can add further subclasses, describing the process involved to produces the different kinds involved.

As the "colours" are neither really neutral descriptions nor self-explaning I strongly prefer that we use the "colours" only as alternative terms but find better class labels.

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stap-m commented 2 years ago

As the "colours" are neither really neutral descriptions nor self-explaning I strongly prefer that we use the "colours" only as alternative terms but find better class labels.

We could make use of the origin sustainable discussed in #872 for green H2 and conventional for blue and grey. Further, we could have subclasses of the latter to distiguish blue and grey.

l-emele commented 2 years ago

Axiomatically we can describe blue hydrogen as physical output of a process hat has both a steam reforming process and a carbon capture and storage process as partial process. We have an energy converting device steam reformer but currently do not have a steam reforming process.

l-emele commented 2 years ago

To move forward with this issue, here some proposals:

This should then produced the following inferred structure:

The multi-hierarchical is intended.

The class synthetic hydrogen has currently the definition; Synthetic hydrogen is hydrogen with synthetic origin. It is usually produced from water applying the water electrolysis process. The second sentence should be deleted, as this is then in the proposed structure a bit misleading.

Proper labels for X, Y and Z are still open for discussion.

[^1]: This is quite a long axiom. This can be shortened if we introduce: Renewable electrical energy is electrical energy with a renewable origin. Axiom: 'renewable electrical energy' EquivalentTo: 'electrical energy' and 'has origin' some renewable. Then the shortened axiom above would reduce to: 'X hydrogen' EquivalentTo: 'electrolytic hydrogen' and 'physical output of' some ('water electrolysis process' 'has energy input' some 'renewable electrical energy'.

l-emele commented 2 years ago

For X hydrogen I propose the label renewable electrolytic hydrogen and for Y hydrogen I propose steam reforming hydrogen. But maybe these labels are too clunky.

stap-m commented 2 years ago

For X hydrogen I propose the label renewable electrolytic hydrogen and for Y hydrogen I propose steam reforming hydrogen. But maybe these labels are too clunky.

Since we add the "colours" as alternative term, I think it is ok. Otherwise, we could switch label and alternative terms to use more common vocabulary?!

l-emele commented 2 years ago

For Z hydrogen I still struggle to find a proper label, something like CCS steam reforming hydrogen or abated steam reforming hydrogen . But I am not happy with any of these.

Seems to be a reason, why the colour names were invented ;)

l-emele commented 1 year ago

No further reaction for the last two months. I'll implement this now with abated steam reforming hydrogen has primary label for blue hydrogen.