Open areleu opened 1 year ago
Some thoughts on these proposals:
water flow
: Water flow is a process of liquid water moving.)current intensity
is confusing, as in physics intensities are often referred to as per area quantities, in this case something with the unit A/mm². See also Merriam-Webster.resistance
is a property of an object (e.g. a resistor), not a process attribute of an electrical energy transfer or a current. The object has this property independently of whether an electrical current flows momentarily through it or not.direct current
: A direct current is an electrical current in which electrical charges flow always in the same direction.alternative current
: An alternative current is an electrical current in which electrical charges periodically change their direction of flow.Some thoughts on these proposals:
* I don't think, an electrical energy transfer is the same as an (electrical) current. A current value is a value that measures how much charges per timestep are transfered; it does not measure how much energy. I rather suggest something like: _An electrical current is a process of moving electric charges._ (Adapted from the definition of `water flow`: _Water flow is a process of liquid water moving._) * The label `current intensity` is confusing, as in physics intensities are often referred to as per area quantities, in this case something with the unit A/mm². See also [Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/current%20intensity). * A `resistance` is a property of an object (e.g. a resistor), not a process attribute of an electrical energy transfer or a current. The object has this property independently of whether an electrical current flows momentarily through it or not. * AC versus DC: Not the charges themselve change but the _direction of flow_ of charges changes periodically in AC. But the energy flow also in AC always in one direction. Therefore we should define AC and DC as subclasses of current and not of electrical energy transfer. * `direct current`: _A direct current is an electrical current in which electrical charges flow always in the same direction._ * `alternative current`: _An alternative current is an electrical current in which electrical charges periodically change their direction of flow._
I agree with all of this, but we are still missing the alternative to current intensity
, the term to represent the quantity value of electrical current
as a process, so, the value with units A.
We could also create the two terms and give them the same label, it is how they are used in the literature and the unique IDs prevent conflicts. Other alterantive is to have them labeled like:
electrical current (process)
electrical current (value)
By the way, I was suggesting resistance
as property of the process because although, each object indivitually has its resistance. When multiple resistances in series or parallel are taken into account in a circuit, we talk about total resistance.
I browsed a bit Wikipedia and found
So what about using
electrical current
or current
as label for the process,electrical current intensity
or current intensity
as label for the process attribute,electrical current intensity value
or current intensity value
or electrical current value
or current value
for the quantity value?If have to define later something for A/mm², then we can still use electrical current density
, but I think that is not necessarily at the moment.
By the way, I was suggesting
resistance
as property of the process because although, each object indivitually has its resistance. When multiple resistances in series or parallel are taken into account in a circuit, we talk about total resistance.
Yes, true. But this total resistance of the circuit is still a property of the circuit (made up of individual objects) and still not a property of the of the current.
voltage
: "Voltage is the process attribute of an electrical energy transfer which quantifies the electron flow potential differences of its starting and ending points."
I don't think that this is a process attribute of a electrical energy transfer either, as there can be a voltage without transferring energy. At the terminals of a battery there is a voltage, even in moments when no energy is transfered from or to the battery.
EDIT: The voltage unit volt
is defined as work per charge unit. This should give a hint how to define voltage.
Did someone check, whether there exist already ontologies that contains these concepts in a manner that we could import / adapt?
I looked into PATO and ENVO, but did not find anything helpful. The only helpful things in other ontologies are the mentioned definitions of the associated units in the units ontology.
I have been looking for use cases, and one thing that I have often noticed is that the current intensity is not that much used to describe Transmission line infrastructure, it is mostly voltages and power capacities. Examples: Wikipedia, IEEE RELIABILITY TEST SYSTEM
Not that we keep the terms out, I think they are still valuable but probably we can afford more complexity in the other terms and keep current
simple.
Description of the issue
In existing classes like
HVDC-line
andAC-line
we refer to the termcurrent
. This is also necessary to describe the differences of AC and DC charging processes that may come out of https://github.com/OpenEnergyPlatform/ontology/issues/1444Along the same lines we have things like
resistance
andvoltage
Ideas of solution
This should not be very complicated to implement since we already have some parallels. Using for example the
water flow
axioms.water flow
has process attribute
somewater flow rate
water flow rate
has quantity value
somevolumetric flow rate value
We could add the axioms for
electrical energy transfer
:electrical energy transfer
alternative label
current
orelectric current
electrical energy transfer
has process attribute
somecurrent intensity
current intensity
has quantity value
somecurrent intensity value
electrical energy transfer
has process attribute
someresistance
resistance
has quantity value
someresistance value
electrical energy transfer
has process attribute
somevoltage
voltage
has quantity value
somevoltage value
Definitions:
current intensity
: "Current intensity is the process attribute of an electrical energy transfer which quantifies the rate of electrons flowing through it."resistance
: "Resistance is the process attribute of an electrical energy transfer which quantifies the opposition to electron flow."voltage
: "Voltage is the process attribute of an electrical energy transfer which quantifies the electron flow potential differences of its starting and ending points."We could also add subclasses of
electrical energy transfer
:Alternate current
: "An alternate current is an electrical energy transfer whose charge changes during the flow"Direct current
: "A direct current is an electrical energy transfer whose charge is constant during the flow"I was also thinking of axiomizing charge but, since alternate current changes the charge constantly this may be tricky. What we could have is still define charge as an attribute but not axiomize it.
Please let me know if you agree with these definitions, I would like to implement them asap as I need them for work.
Workflow checklist
I am aware that