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Allow for multiple alchemical waters #660

Open IAlibay opened 7 months ago

IAlibay commented 7 months ago

From today's Perses-OpenFE call - it might be good, once we've finished up validating the alchemical water code, to see if we can support net charge changes > 1.

zhang-ivy commented 7 months ago

In theory, mutations from positive to negative charge (or vice versa) would be good examples for this, e.g. GLU to ARG. There aren't any such mutations in the protein:protein benchmark set (i.e., barnase:barstar) I've been working with, so we wouldn't have any experimental data to compare to, but could do some cycle closure/convergence tests on these types of mutations in simpler systems first (like terminally-blocked amino acids) and then more complex systems like barnase:barstar.

I don't have any small molecule transformation examples off the top of my head, but there may be some mutations with charge change > 1 in kinase:inhibitor datasets (tagging @sukritsingh for input here)

sukritsingh commented 6 months ago

There are a couple in Abl kinase off the top of my head - I'll link to potential papers below but mutations in Abl kinase that come to mind off the top of my head are:

  1. E255K
  2. E275K
  3. E279K
  4. E281K
  5. K419E
  6. E450K

Thoughts/considerations here:

  1. It may be useful to pick a couple of examples in either direction as test cases (ie one going from negative-> positive and another going from positive-> negative).
  2. All the major charge change mutations involve GLU and LYS - is it worth trying other residues out as well?

Pasting relevant papers here that are mentioned in FEFlow issue #7

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-018-0075-x https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acscentsci.9b00590 https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acscentsci.8b00717#

IAlibay commented 6 months ago

Thanks @zhang-ivy and @sukritsingh

I need to review the above papers (so apologies if the answer is already there). One immediate thought here is whether or not a > 1 net charge transformation is actually a reasonable single step perturbation. Are there any cases here where going through a neutral residue as a middle point is known to either not be feasible or bring along some significant disadvantages?

sukritsingh commented 4 months ago

Oop sorry for not seeing this till just now!

Are there any cases here where going through a neutral residue as a middle point is known to either not be feasible

Sorry just to clarify - are you asking whether or not there are examples of mutations with >1 net charge transformation? If so, then the answer is yes, there are plenty of real-world examples of those. If we were going through a "neutral" residue then the real world experiment for that would be going through 2 mutations (Addendum: While possible to occur, this kind of pathway is less likely to occur in biology and if there was a selection pressure to achieve a >1 net charge mutation then that would occur directly. If a neutral residue appears mid-pathway in biology then, for our purposes, it had some degree of selection/value by itself.)