(tlg3135)_tlg3135.tlg004_tlg3135.tlg005

[AlisonBabeu]

So while updating the tlg3135.tlg001.opp-grc1 to 1st1K to avoid conflict with the catalog, I "rediscovered" an issue I noted at the time I catalog this work about 5 years ago. Works tlg 3135.tlg004 and tlg3135.tlg005 are using TLG IDs that have been given to other works. I know we aren't in the practice of being consistent with TLG IDs if something gets misnumbered along the way but I was wondering if we should create different IDS for these works, especially since they seem to be tightly related to tlg3135.tlg001, one is the Argumenta of the work and the other is a Chronologia that accompanies it. I was thinking of renumbering these too tlg3135.tlg001a and tlg3135.tlg001c in ways we have done before.

Any thoughts @lcerrato?

[lcerrato]

@AlisonBabeu I'm not following precisely, which is most likely me. What would these works be if you were starting from scratch?

[lcerrato]

@AlisonBabeu So I searched on these works and I see that TLG has them as part of 001, so doing 001a and 001b or merging would be better than the current IDs probably.

[AlisonBabeu]

Hi @lcerrato I had forgotten to search on them. The TLG is strange with this work since it uses tlg03135.tlg001 for books 1-12 and then tlg3135.tlg002, which is used for books 13-18. I had split them up in the catalog data but had planned on possibly just switching the metadata to use tlg3135.tlg001 since I would rather have the catalog data be consistent with Scaife rather than with the TLG. Should both of these "Works" just be merged into one file for tlg3135.tlg001? Since I didn't find them in my search, where do tlg3135.tlg004 and tlg3135.tlg005 occur in the TLG edition of tlg313.tlg001? Thanks for your help!

[lcerrato]

@AlisonBabeu I didn't look into where they occurred precisely but it was not intuitive. (The Greek also looked a little off from what we have). I would have to revisit the TLG to see what's up.

[AlisonBabeu]

hi @lcerrato the pull request didn't work so I'm going to undo it and wait until you have a chance to see where the two works should be integrated. Thanks!

[lcerrato]

@AlisonBabeu There is a significant difference in the structure of the files we have and the online editions, and even a difference in the structure between 3135.001 (volume/page) and 3135.002 (page).

3135.001 is lib. 1-12: (230k words)

1. pref. v1, 1-11
2. lib. 1-5 v1, 12-402
3. lib. 6-10 v2, 1-457
4. lib. 11-12 v3, 1-169 3135.002 is lib 13-18, pp. 1-768 (114k words)

Both of our editions 3135.001 and 3135.004 have books 1-18. 3135.001 has 358,376 words, so it most likely merges the online 3135.001 and 3135.002.

I still cannot figure out how 004 and 005 work given the major structural differences here.

[lcerrato]

Part of this difference may be that TLG uses a different edition (Büttner-Wobst) for 3135.002, and that may have necessitated the split. They do not use Dindorf for books 13-18.

[lcerrato]

@AlisonBabeu So Migne has these two other works, the Chronology and the Argumentum, but other sources do not. They are not part of the 3135.001 or 3135.002 online editions. I think that the latter is a manuscript commentary rather than the author's work? That's a question for experts.

If we intend on keeping these, then I would probably mint new URNs (3135.011, 3135.012) to avoid conflict. I don't see any particular relationship to 3135.001 that would warrant using a/b/c but that is more of a cataloging/textual history decision than an editorial one. Since there is the potential we would add 3135.004 or 3135.005 (as used elsewhere online) we'd probably want to avoid those?

[lcerrato]

@AlisonBabeu I updated the PR with some comments for the next time, but we can alway just chat if that's easier.

[AlisonBabeu]

Hey @lcerrato having read through the comments on the pull request and here I think the best thing to do is to keep these works separate and then assign two new IDS to the Argumentum and the Chronology. You are quite right in that our tlg3135.tlg001 has the entire work and for some reason that TLG decided to split it up between two editions. I actually just changed the catalog data to only use the tlg3135.tlg001 ID because it puts it in agreement with 1st1K rather than TLG.
So if we agree, I will leave tlg3135.tlg001 as is and then change the two other files to tlg3135.tlg011 and 012?

[lcerrato]

@AlisonBabeu I think that is the best solution. Beyond that, I'm not sure why we have these, but since they were already done, we might as well keep them.

[AlisonBabeu]

This issue was resolved by #2668