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Knights Helm #1326

Closed TheDiggie closed 8 years ago

TheDiggie commented 8 years ago

New helmet including new art for it has 3 armor -10 sp 50 defense and is a little heavier than a normal helm

skittles1 commented 8 years ago

"Made of solid steel plates this helmet is far more effective then a padded helmet."

Should be something like (split over two lines):

"Crafted from solid steel plates, this helm offers far more protection than a padded helmet."

The name "knights helm" should prob be "knight's helm" to match the shield (shield has apostrophe).

Also please squash those two commits and give the resulting commit a meaningful name (e.g. Added knights helm bgf and code).

TheDiggie commented 8 years ago

Wasnt aware the shield had a '

M59Gar commented 8 years ago

Didn't see anyone mention this, but 3 armor is a lot. Combined with Gort, Jonas Shield, Knight's Shield, and Plate Armor, we're looking at 15 max damage then reduced by 13 armor. All purely physical mobs are going to be doing very little damage. Average ~8, whether it's a pogg king or a daemon. Combined with 50 defense and 5% slash resistance, this helmet is absolutely stellar.

If that's intended, I'm sure the game won't break, but this will definitely be a required item for most players. The defense of leather armor, half again the armor of plate, and another 5% slash resistance to resist the best melee weapon in the game - in a helmet slot, with no tension with other items, since it's strictly better than simple helms / masks. We will simply all be using these tomorrow.

Art is friggin' awesome :)

TheDiggie commented 8 years ago

Forgot to add magic weakness to balance it but slash resist isnt as useful as you would assume. 103 pvp is bows+mystics+nerus+spells scims aint used as much as 101

M59Gar commented 8 years ago

Right, scimitar (the highest damage melee weapon by far) is out of favor because of the high prevalence of slash resistance on armors like chain. Even more slash resistance, like on a helm, just compounds that issue. This 5% won't change anything, but we'll have to keep that in mind for some future armor rebalance.

TheDiggie commented 8 years ago

Axe does more damage then scim :p

M59Gar commented 8 years ago

Scimitar is pretty much literally axe but with 1 higher base damage. They're both slashing, same range, same stat, etc.

tyras2 commented 8 years ago

Is it possible to take a look at the artworks here at github?

TheDiggie commented 8 years ago

Dont believe so

TheDiggie commented 8 years ago

https://i.imgur.com/TbRphfH.jpg

tyras2 commented 8 years ago

Awesome, greate work @TheDiggie

Maikeljr commented 8 years ago

I like the helm, but I really think we need to put more emphasis on balancing armors and damage like Gar is hinting at. People don't use highest damage weapon in the game because the balance isn't there to support it, not just because of the shorter range.

TheDiggie commented 8 years ago

Good. This pull is about adding a new helm not rebalancing armor or weapons.

So it seems everyone likes it :)

M59Gar commented 8 years ago

The addition of a new helm is actually a change in the balance of armor and weapons. Although I don't see an actual addition to loot tables here. I'm 100% in favor of adding just a plain buttload of weapons, armor, gear, items, whatever into the game's resources. It's really only when they become accessible to players that we have to really analyze things

TheDiggie commented 8 years ago

Yea its good to put the item its self in one pull and the drop or how ev you obtain it in another, that way if theres an issue with how u get it the item can still go in game.