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Archive 2021 VR events #36

Closed gusaus closed 2 years ago

gusaus commented 2 years ago

Now that all of the 2021 VR videos are on the Oculus Channel (https://creator.oculus.com/community/148499143923838/) we'd like to add the trailers to the website.

My initial thought would be to convert the events to regular posts similar to what we did last year. For example - https://angelcityjazz.com/watch/chromaticity-trio/ https://angelcityjazz.com/watch/anthony-fung/

As it looks like there are multiple trailers/videos for each event (right?), we'd have to play with the format (i.e use a grid vs stacking each trailer).

That said, I tried to embed one of the vids by dropping in the url and it didn't work.

Telemojo - Mark Dresser 5 2022-02-01 16-31-50 Edit Event “Mark Dresser 5 + Jeremy Ledbetter Trio” ‹ Angel City Jazz — WordPress 2022-02-01 16-29-23

Maybe I'm doing it wrong?

Either way, I think we should play with the format and add the trailers on the staging site - then I can copy each one over to live.

Let me know what I can help with.

gusaus commented 2 years ago

@angelcityjazz I created a new Github issue to track. Let me know if you're still having issues logging into Github.

gusaus commented 2 years ago

there is one trailer per band and 5 or more videos per band (one for each tune). I have the trailer files that could be embedded directly

So there would only be 5 or so trailers to embed total? Or do the videos themselves also have trailers? I couldn't tell if there was some setting that enabled you to embed the videos by dropping in the urls.

Either way, I think it makes sense to embed trailers on the corresponding event page. Then I can convert each to a post once we're happy with the format.

@angelcityjazz Can you try embedding on a couple of the events on the staging site? https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/angel-city-jazz-fest/

I was thinking to create a single page with all the trailers and info on how to watch in VR as opposed to doing a page for each band.

Agreed we should also group all the trailers together in their own section or page. Will have a better idea for how to present after seeing how the embeds look on an event page or two.

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

@angelcityjazz I change the post type and changed the template to one column (instead of one column wide). I'm trying to remove the header section with CSS so it would be consistent with last year's archives.

I think the trailer would be great if there was a thumbnail - without it, maybe we should just link the thumbnail image to the Oculus channel?

Anyhow - let me know what you think about this work in progress and I'll plan to spend some time improving tomorrow.

https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/mark-dresser-5-live-at-the-2021-acjf/

gusaus commented 2 years ago

@angelcityjazz So I went back and created a couple reusable blocks. First I created one the pulls in the 'excerpt' and then some info on Oculus. We can tweak the format and edit the Oculus info in the reusable block. You'll see I added the block underneath the thumbnail that you added as the featured image.

Edit Post “Mark Dresser 5 live at the 2021 ACJF” ‹ Angel City Jazz — WordPress 2022-02-04 15-43-03

When you're in edit mode, click on the thumbnail and you'll see it's an image (not the 'featured image block'); I did this so we can link the image to the cooresponding artist or playlist page on Oculus. Ideally we'd put the trailer here instead, but it doesn't look right with just a black screen and no thumnail. What do you think?

Edit Post “Mark Dresser 5 live at the 2021 ACJF” ‹ Angel City Jazz — WordPress 2022-02-04 15-57-03

If you're happy with this format, all you'll need to do is

I also created a new reusable block for the 2021 vids and added to each existing page.

So once we're happy with the format (let me know what you think about the format as well as embedding the trailers as is), you can clone the posts that have multiple bands and fine tune.

Let me know what you think before you proceed.

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

The more I look at these the more I think we should skip the individual pages and just focus on creating one page with all the links to all the bands' videos.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 1:44 PM Gus Austin @.***> wrote:

@angelcityjazz https://github.com/angelcityjazz So I went back and created a couple reusable blocks. First I created one the pulls in the 'excerpt' and then some info on Oculus. We can tweak the format and edit the Oculus info in the reusable block. You'll see I added the block underneath the thumbnail that you added as the featured image.

[image: Edit Post “Mark Dresser 5 live at the 2021 ACJF” ‹ Angel City Jazz — WordPress 2022-02-04 15-43-03] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113996/152601630-30fc4524-1f3e-427f-8ee9-7ff166f2b1aa.png

When you're in edit mode, click on the thumbnail and you'll see it's an image (not the 'featured image block'); I did this so we can link the image to the cooresponding artist or playlist page on Oculus. Ideally we'd put the trailer here instead, but it doesn't look right with just a black screen and no thumnail. What do you think? [image: Edit Post “Mark Dresser 5 live at the 2021 ACJF” ‹ Angel City Jazz — WordPress 2022-02-04 15-57-03] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113996/152602579-87c89a71-918d-49c7-ae67-41d3a841c562.png

If you're happy with this format, all you'll need to do is

  • keep the title the same (i.e. not sure we should include "...live at the live at the 2021 ACJF" since we can include in the excerpt and subtitle
  • swap out the thumbnail as the featured image
  • swap out the placeholder image with the same image just added as the featured image (replace --> select image --> media library

[image: Edit Post “Mark Dresser 5 live at the 2021 ACJF” ‹ Angel City Jazz — WordPress 2022-02-04 16-12-13] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113996/152603894-70ce43b7-0a79-4391-b2e9-f44faa0805dd.png

  • update the subtitle - probably should read something like the following to be consistent with other archival vids in the Watch section "Recorded live at REDCAT for the 2021 Angel City Jazz Festival"; that said, I'm not sure we'll display this (at least for now)
  • update the excerpt - this is where we can add more descriptive info
  • i.e "Mark Dresser 5 live at the 2021 ACJF. Recorded live on October 1, 2021 at REDCAT with 180 3D camera and ambisonic sound."

I also created a new reusable block for the 2021 vids and added to each existing page.

So once we're happy with the format (let me know what you think about the format as well as embedding the trailers as is), you can clone the posts that have multiple bands and fine tune.

Let me know what you think before you proceed.

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angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

I tried to give it another go by simplifying the video page: https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/mark-dresser-5-live-at-the-2021-acjf/

We might want to have the title displayed though

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 5:36 PM Rocco Somazzi @.***> wrote:

The more I look at these the more I think we should skip the individual pages and just focus on creating one page with all the links to all the bands' videos.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 1:44 PM Gus Austin @.***> wrote:

@angelcityjazz https://github.com/angelcityjazz So I went back and created a couple reusable blocks. First I created one the pulls in the 'excerpt' and then some info on Oculus. We can tweak the format and edit the Oculus info in the reusable block. You'll see I added the block underneath the thumbnail that you added as the featured image.

[image: Edit Post “Mark Dresser 5 live at the 2021 ACJF” ‹ Angel City Jazz — WordPress 2022-02-04 15-43-03] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113996/152601630-30fc4524-1f3e-427f-8ee9-7ff166f2b1aa.png

When you're in edit mode, click on the thumbnail and you'll see it's an image (not the 'featured image block'); I did this so we can link the image to the cooresponding artist or playlist page on Oculus. Ideally we'd put the trailer here instead, but it doesn't look right with just a black screen and no thumnail. What do you think? [image: Edit Post “Mark Dresser 5 live at the 2021 ACJF” ‹ Angel City Jazz — WordPress 2022-02-04 15-57-03] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113996/152602579-87c89a71-918d-49c7-ae67-41d3a841c562.png

If you're happy with this format, all you'll need to do is

  • keep the title the same (i.e. not sure we should include "...live at the live at the 2021 ACJF" since we can include in the excerpt and subtitle
  • swap out the thumbnail as the featured image
  • swap out the placeholder image with the same image just added as the featured image (replace --> select image --> media library

[image: Edit Post “Mark Dresser 5 live at the 2021 ACJF” ‹ Angel City Jazz — WordPress 2022-02-04 16-12-13] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113996/152603894-70ce43b7-0a79-4391-b2e9-f44faa0805dd.png

  • update the subtitle - probably should read something like the following to be consistent with other archival vids in the Watch section "Recorded live at REDCAT for the 2021 Angel City Jazz Festival"; that said, I'm not sure we'll display this (at least for now)
  • update the excerpt - this is where we can add more descriptive info
  • i.e "Mark Dresser 5 live at the 2021 ACJF. Recorded live on October 1, 2021 at REDCAT with 180 3D camera and ambisonic sound."

I also created a new reusable block for the 2021 vids and added to each existing page.

So once we're happy with the format (let me know what you think about the format as well as embedding the trailers as is), you can clone the posts that have multiple bands and fine tune.

Let me know what you think before you proceed.

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

Hey Rocco - great to see you got the thumbnail to show as the preview. Looks much better!

Looking at https://www.oculus.com/experiences/media/709824823317912/ along with I think if each artist page had the same info in the fields noted in the screengrab, we could make the pages consistent via reusable blocks and/or some custom css or theming.

Telemojo - Mark Dresser 5 2022-02-07 14-27-26

With regards to your comment above -

The more I look at these the more I think we should skip the individual pages and just focus on creating one page with all the links to all the bands' videos.

Like what we're doing now? Just providing a link to the artist or playlist page on Oculus (rather than embedding a preview to each individual video)? If yes, and because we can't link the trailer embed to the corresponding Oculus page, I think we should use a button as opposed to linking in the info block. If we link instead to the Angel City Page (https://creator.oculus.com/community/148499143923838/), it'll be easier to customize the look as mentioned with reasuable blocks and/or custom theming.

Edit Post “Mark Dresser 5 VR Video” ‹ Angel City Jazz — WordPress 2022-02-07 14-58-55

Does that make sense?

gusaus commented 2 years ago

Also... assuming you have thumbnail images, we could create a grid similar to what you see on the playlist page and link each image to the corresponding video page on Oculus

Mark Dresser 5 | Angel City Jazz Festival | Oculus Creators 2022-02-07 15-18-07
angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

I think the simplest solution would be to create a single page with a grid listing each band and trailer and have that link to their respective playlist on Oculus. It would be total Overkill to try to have thumbnail linking to each video (there are close to 60 videos)

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Also... assuming you have thumbnail images, we could create a grid similar to what you see on the playlist page and link each image to the corresponding video page on Oculus [image: Mark Dresser 5 | Angel City Jazz Festival | Oculus Creators 2022-02-07 15-18-07] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113996/152889279-31798f79-0292-4908-bfb7-83233874513b.png

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

I think the simplest solution would be to create a single page with a grid listing each band and trailer and have that link to their respective playlist on Oculus

So we'd do this instead of linking to archive pages we're setting up here? Problem with that is 1) it might be difficult to load that many trailers at once and then set it up so that only trailer plays at a time; 2) many visitors that are fans of Angel City Jazz and the artists don't have Oculus - the archive pages with info and related media are still valuable (with or without thumnails linking to the individual vids on Oculus).

I'd suggest we do both. 1) We have a section on 'Watch' that links to archives (we can fine-tune this page https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/); 2) create a post about the 2021 archives being available on Oculus - in that post we could embed the trailers like you're suggesting (if possible), link the thumbnails (just one per artist linking to the corresponding playlist page), or just do text links.

If my previous comment made sense https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/36#issuecomment-1032026793, I think we're pretty close to having the format locked down.

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

Ok so if we're happy with the way the Dresser 5 looks I can start creating all the individual pages. WHat's the best way for me to create the Jeremy Ledbetter page (which was on the same page as Dresser in the Calendar)? Do I just make a clone of the Dresser page?

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I think the simplest solution would be to create a single page with a grid listing each band and trailer and have that link to their respective playlist on Oculus

So we'd do this instead of linking to archive pages we're setting up here? Problem with that is 1) it might be difficult to load that many trailers at once and then set it up so that only trailer plays at a time; 2) many visitors that are fans of Angel City Jazz and the artists don't have Oculus

  • the archive pages with info and related media are still valuable (with or without thumnails linking to the individual vids on Oculus).

I'd suggest we do both. 1) We have a section on 'Watch' that links to archives (we can fine-tune this page https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/); 2) create a post about the 2021 archives being available on Oculus - in that post we could embed the trailers like you're suggesting (if possible), link the thumbnails (just one per artist linking to the corresponding playlist page), or just do text links.

If my previous comment made sense #36 (comment) https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/36#issuecomment-1032026793, I think we're pretty close to having the format locked down.

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angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

I made one for Jeremy: https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/jeremy-ledbetter-trio-vr-video/

If this works, I can crank them all out in a day.

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Ok so if we're happy with the way the Dresser 5 looks I can start creating all the individual pages. WHat's the best way for me to create the Jeremy Ledbetter page (which was on the same page as Dresser in the Calendar)? Do I just make a clone of the Dresser page?

On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 5:48 PM Gus Austin @.***> wrote:

I think the simplest solution would be to create a single page with a grid listing each band and trailer and have that link to their respective playlist on Oculus

So we'd do this instead of linking to archive pages we're setting up here? Problem with that is 1) it might be difficult to load that many trailers at once and then set it up so that only trailer plays at a time; 2) many visitors that are fans of Angel City Jazz and the artists don't have Oculus - the archive pages with info and related media are still valuable (with or without thumnails linking to the individual vids on Oculus).

I'd suggest we do both. 1) We have a section on 'Watch' that links to archives (we can fine-tune this page https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/); 2) create a post about the 2021 archives being available on Oculus - in that post we could embed the trailers like you're suggesting (if possible), link the thumbnails (just one per artist linking to the corresponding playlist page), or just do text links.

If my previous comment made sense #36 (comment) https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/36#issuecomment-1032026793, I think we're pretty close to having the format locked down.

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

Let's make sure we're happy with the format before you get cranking! That way I can adjust the reusable blocks and theme (if necessary) before you clone the rest.

So it seems like we agree with my suggestion here? Personally, I don't think it would be overkill to add thumbnails for the 3 - 5 videos (or whatever the ##) for each artist. Maybe we could just add the ones for Mark Dresser just to evaluate? https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/36#issuecomment-1032114943

What about my 'other' suggestions in the same (and previous comment)? https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/36#issuecomment-1032026793

Maybe it will be easier for me to make a clone of the Dresser page and mock it up myself... rather than me overwriting your changes. Then we can compare and sign off on a final version.

I should be available to spend some time on this early this afternoon. I'll keep you updated here!

gusaus commented 2 years ago

What do you think about a 2 column format like this? https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/mark-dresser-5/

The reusable block is the right column is pulling in the excerpt (see https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/36#issuecomment-1032026793). Do you think listing the featured musicians in the excerpt works or should we leave in a seperate block like you see on all the other posts in https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/?

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

I think https://www.youtube.com/user/angelcityjazztv/videos looks pretty good. SOme improvements:

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What do you think about a 2 column format like this? https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/mark-dresser-5/

The reusable block is the right column is pulling in the excerpt (see #36 (comment) https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/36#issuecomment-1032026793). Do you think listing the featured musicians in the excerpt works or should we leave in a seperate block like you see on all the other posts in https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/?

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

Assuming we're talking about https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/mark-dresser-5/

the musicians line-up needs to be more organized maybe within a block with a different color

you mean similar to how the other archives are formatted? if there's a quote or something else to put in the second column, I think the format (for the line-up) we used for the 2020 fest works pretty well

https://angelcityjazz.com/event/mark-dresser-5-jeremy-ledbetter-trio/ https://angelcityjazz.com/watch/yusef-lateef-tribute/

there a bit too much purple on the page. Maybe the bio block should be black?

would solve if we had the lineup/quote column (with different colors)

I was going to play with the format, but it looks like you're editing the same page now!

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

I tried to edit the line-up info to make it more organized but the editor wouldn't let me do anything because it is a reusable block. Does it need to be? Why not just have three paragraph boxes so that I can control them individually?

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I think https://www.youtube.com/user/angelcityjazztv/videos looks pretty good. SOme improvements:

  • the musicians line-up needs to be more organized maybe within a block with a different color
  • there a bit too much purple on the page. Maybe the bio block should be black?

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What do you think about a 2 column format like this? https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/mark-dresser-5/

The reusable block is the right column is pulling in the excerpt (see #36 (comment) https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/36#issuecomment-1032026793). Do you think listing the featured musicians in the excerpt works or should we leave in a seperate block like you see on all the other posts in https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/?

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

As noted above https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/36#issuecomment-1032026793, the lineup and other info can be changed in the excerpt (you'll see that in the right sidebar when you edit). I did that to make it consistent with the corresponding Oculus page but we can certainly just have that in a regular block or paragraph.

Personally I think the lineup looks better in seperate column, but I'll diable the reusable block on this page so you can play around w/ the format.

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

We could also just skip the line-up. I think a clean simple look would be great

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As noted above #36 (comment) https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/36#issuecomment-1032026793, the lineup and other info can be changed in the excerpt (you'll see that in the right sidebar when you edit). I did that to make it consistent with the corresponding Oculus page but we can certainly just have that in a regular block or paragraph.

Personally I think the lineup looks better in seperate column, but I'll diable the reusable block on this page so you can play around w/ the format.

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

I think listing the lineups, links to reviews, quotes, and other archives are valuable to the fans and performers. That said, I agree the lineup is a bit much in the top right column.

Eitehr way, if we're 'not' listing the the linup in the excerpt so we can use the reusable block for consistancy.

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

I tried to play around and i'm confused by the block being an excerpt. It makes it more complicated to seit. Why not just have text blocks so we can freely edit them?

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I think listing the lineups, links to reviews, quotes, and other archives are valuable to the fans and performers. That said, I agree the lineup is a bit much in the top right column.

Eitehr way, if we're 'not' listing the the linup in the excerpt so we can use the reusable block for consistancy.

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

Benefit of inputting info in fields (like the excerpt and preview), is it's easier to adjust or reformat in the theme or reusable blocks without having to change every single page. That said, I agree the lineup is hard to format if it's in the excerpt.

gusaus commented 2 years ago

Just mocked up another one to compare - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/jazzchamber/

here I kept the lineup in a separate column (wasn't sure if this will be broken out into multiple posts) - probably should have that section be two columns (if you like the general format). Also made the bio columns full width. Think it looks pretty good that way!

Removing the featured artists from the excerpt allows us to use the reusable block

Billy Childs Jazz Chamber Ensemble with Dianne Reeves - Angel City Jazz 2022-02-09 14-58-48

Thoughts on this format?

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

I think that looks fine. Just to clarify, we did not film all of the events. We only recorded 4 evenings (10/1, 10/9&10 and 10/15) so the video pages will not match the event pages in content.

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Just mocked up another one to compare - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/jazzchamber/

here I kept the lineup in a separate column (wasn't sure if this will be broken out into multiple posts) - probably should have that section be two columns (if you like the general format). Also made the bio columns full width. Think it looks pretty good that way!

Removing the featured artists from the excerpt allows us to use the reusable block [image: Billy Childs Jazz Chamber Ensemble with Dianne Reeves - Angel City Jazz 2022-02-09 14-58-48] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113996/153305252-e42b9f98-88fe-4675-ba76-a377fa38aeb7.png

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angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

And about the reusable block: it's just two sentences, let's use simple text. I don't mind typing them in for each page rather than dealing with a reusable block.

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I think that looks fine. Just to clarify, we did not film all of the events. We only recorded 4 evenings (10/1, 10/9&10 and 10/15) so the video pages will not match the event pages in content.

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Just mocked up another one to compare - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/jazzchamber/

here I kept the lineup in a separate column (wasn't sure if this will be broken out into multiple posts) - probably should have that section be two columns (if you like the general format). Also made the bio columns full width. Think it looks pretty good that way!

Removing the featured artists from the excerpt allows us to use the reusable block [image: Billy Childs Jazz Chamber Ensemble with Dianne Reeves - Angel City Jazz 2022-02-09 14-58-48] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113996/153305252-e42b9f98-88fe-4675-ba76-a377fa38aeb7.png

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

we did not film all of the events. We only recorded 4 evenings (10/1, 10/9&10 and 10/15) so the video pages will not match the event pages in content.

These are the event pages converted to posts and reformatted. So there won't be corresponding event pages in the archives. Realizing we DO have both for the 2020 VR Fest (guess I wasn't aware of the 'post type switcher' plugin). Is that what you mean? Do we want old events in the archives or should we delete?

I think that looks fine.

So the lineup in a separate column works? To me it seems better to make that two column and have some sort of quote or blurb in the 2nd column (like last year). And the bios look good full width? Let me know and I'll reformat the other pages and let you take it from there.

And about the reusable block: it's just two sentences, let's use simple text.

Can you just enter the simple text into the excerpt? I'd rather keep the reusable block just in case we want to tweak the format. If you're really against using it, I'll remove it... but you might need to bring in your interns to do any time-consuming revisions.

Let me know

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

We do not need to archive shows that we did not film. I tweaked the excerpts to include a title so it looks a bit more balanced, does that work for you?. For the line-up box the problem is that the amount of info will change dramatically from band to band, from a single performer to a 17 piece band. Let's leave it out. We have the line-up on screen and on the Oculus page. At this point it's just redundant info that clutters these pages.

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we did not film all of the events. We only recorded 4 evenings (10/1, 10/9&10 and 10/15) so the video pages will not match the event pages in content.

These are the event pages converted to posts and reformatted. So there won't be corresponding event pages in the archives. Realizing we DO have both for the 2020 VR Fest (guess I wasn't aware of the 'post type switcher' plugin). Is that what you mean? Do we want old events in the archives or should we delete?

I think that looks fine.

So the lineup in a separate column works? To me it seems better to make that two column and have some sort of quote or blurb in the 2nd column (like last year). And the bios look good full width? Let me know and I'll reformat the other pages and let you take it from there.

And about the reusable block: it's just two sentences, let's use simple text.

Can you just enter the simple text into the excerpt? I'd rather keep the reusable block just in case we want to tweak the format. If you're really against using it, I'll remove it... but you might need to bring in your interns to do any time-consuming revisions.

Let me know

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

Ok - so I added the 'post title' block so you don't need to add to the excerpt. I also took out the artist lineup section and adjusted the bio backgrounds.

https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/jazzchamber/

Does that work for you?

Do you wanna swap out the image with the trailer? Also replace the featured image with the 'artist' thumbnail image?

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

It works for me

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Ok - so I added the 'post title' block so you don't need to add to the excerpt. I also took out the artist lineup section and adjusted the bio backgrounds.

https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/jazzchamber/

Does that work for you?

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

Alright then! So I archived the artists 'not' playing on the dates above and reformatted the others. You'll see them here - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/angel-city-jazz-fest/

I'd start by making the following changes and then 'cloning' those that have multiple artists

For example on https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/mark-dresser-5/

Mark Dresser 5 - Angel City Jazz 2022-02-09 18-11-41

Let me know if you need more format tweaks or run into any other issues.

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

This is an old message. We just decided not to do line-ups.

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Assuming we're talking about https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/mark-dresser-5/

the musicians line-up needs to be more organized maybe within a block with a different color

you mean similar to how the other archives are formatted? if there's a quote or something else to put in the second column, I think the format (for the line-up) we used for the 2020 fest works pretty well

https://angelcityjazz.com/event/mark-dresser-5-jeremy-ledbetter-trio/ https://angelcityjazz.com/watch/yusef-lateef-tribute/

there a bit too much purple on the page. Maybe the bio block should be black?

would solve if we had the lineup/quote column (with different colors)

I was going to play with the format, but it looks like you're editing the same page now!

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angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

Hey Gus, I just did the 10/9 pages by cloning. Can you double check to make sure I did everything correctly? I will work on the others as soon as I get confirmation

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This is an old message. We just decided not to do line-ups.

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Assuming we're talking about https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/mark-dresser-5/

the musicians line-up needs to be more organized maybe within a block with a different color

you mean similar to how the other archives are formatted? if there's a quote or something else to put in the second column, I think the format (for the line-up) we used for the 2020 fest works pretty well

https://angelcityjazz.com/event/mark-dresser-5-jeremy-ledbetter-trio/ https://angelcityjazz.com/watch/yusef-lateef-tribute/

there a bit too much purple on the page. Maybe the bio block should be black?

would solve if we had the lineup/quote column (with different colors)

I was going to play with the format, but it looks like you're editing the same page now!

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

They look good! The only thing you might want to check when linking to Oculus is that the setting for 'Open in new tab' is consistent. Edit Post “Muttdoggs with Petra Haden” ‹ Angel City Jazz — WordPress 2022-02-09 20-26-53

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

Got it. I will continue on to 10/9 and 10/15 then.

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They look good! The only thing you might want to check when linking to Oculus is that the setting for 'Open in new tab' is consistent. [image: Edit Post “Muttdoggs with Petra Haden” ‹ Angel City Jazz — WordPress 2022-02-09 20-26-53] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113996/153337173-c134d9c3-aa05-43dc-95c5-92ecb7c34e23.png

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angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

Hi Gus, I created all of the relevant pages. I guess we need to create a page with all the videos and then we can transfer over to the live site?

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Got it. I will continue on to 10/9 and 10/15 then.

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angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

or are we using the watch page as the main page to see all of the videos? Few other notes:

thanks

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Hi Gus, I created all of the relevant pages. I guess we need to create a page with all the videos and then we can transfer over to the live site?

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Got it. I will continue on to 10/9 and 10/15 then.

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

I created all of the relevant pages.

They look great!

I guess we need to create a page with all the videos and then we can transfer over to the live site?

Once we're happy with everything on stage I'll import and manually copy over the new posts and changes over to the live site.

are we using the watch page as the main page to see all of the videos?

I think it makes sense to have all the videos (or video series) easily accessible on the Watch page like we're doing now - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/

That said, we may also want to have a stand alone page for each series (currently the 2020 and 2021 VR vids). That would make it easier to promote - also could add some descriptive text about each series on each page. Might be easier to evaluate if I created the pages real quick.

shall we keep the 2021 festival page live until we are ready to update the 2022 info?

If you're asking is we should archive the festival landing page, I'd say no https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/angel-city-jazz-fest/

Maybe we could just remove the section w/ all the videos for the short term? We can then add a few in the 'watch' section on the same page?

That said, we probably should update and restructure to more effectively showcase videos and other archives from the last couple years. Might be good to update the issue to discuss 2022 goals and priorities - then possibly follow up with a call.

can we place the new 2021 video posts in the festival showcase block on the homepage?

Similar to what we're doing now? https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/

We can increase the ## of videos we want to display and link to the 'watch' or stand alone page (if we decide to create one). Also might be good to add some intro text right above the videos.

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

One morenote: I tried to remove the band name below the image since the name is already on the thumbnail but couldn't figure it out

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or are we using the watch page as the main page to see all of the videos? Few other notes:

  • shall we keep the 2021 festival page live until we are ready to update the 2022 info?
  • can we place the new 2021 video posts in the festival showcase block on the homepage?

thanks

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Hi Gus, I created all of the relevant pages. I guess we need to create a page with all the videos and then we can transfer over to the live site?

On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 8:30 PM Rocco Somazzi @.***> wrote:

Got it. I will continue on to 10/9 and 10/15 then.

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

I tried to remove the band name below the image since the name is already on the thumbnail but couldn't figure it out

You'd like to hide the title on all the grid displays (similar to last years fest) or just some?

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

Just for the 2021 VR fest videos so that it matches the 2020 look

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I tried to remove the band name below the image since the name is already on the thumbnail but couldn't figure it out

You'd like to hide the title on all the grid displays (similar to last years fest) or just some?

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

Yep - I had to hide the titles in the css. Check it now.

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

perfect, thank you. Let's move them over to the live site!

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Yep - I had to hide the titles in the css. Check it now.

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angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

Maybe I can do a post introducing the videos. I also have behind the scene photos I could use.

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I created all of the relevant pages.

They look great!

I guess we need to create a page with all the videos and then we can transfer over to the live site?

Once we're happy with everything on stage I'll import and manually copy over the new posts and changes over to the live site.

are we using the watch page as the main page to see all of the videos?

I think it makes sense to have all the videos (or video series) easily accessible on the Watch page like we're doing now - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/

That said, we may also want to have a stand alone page for each series (currently the 2020 and 2021 VR vids). That would make it easier to promote

  • also could add some descriptive text about each series on each page. Might be easier to evaluate if I created the pages real quick.

    • shall we keep the 2021 festival page live until we are ready to update the 2022 info?

If you're asking is we should archive the festival landing page, I'd say no https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/angel-city-jazz-fest/

Maybe we could just remove the section w/ all the videos for the short term? We can then add a few in the 'watch' section on the same page?

That said, we probably should update and restructure to more effectively showcase videos and other archives from the last couple years. Might be good to update the issue to discuss 2022 goals and priorities - then possibly follow up with a call.

  • can we place the new 2021 video posts in the festival showcase block on the homepage?

Similar to what we're doing now? https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/

We can increase the ## of videos we want to display and link to the 'watch' or stand alone page (if we decide to create one). Also might be good to add some intro text right above the videos.

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

Maybe I can do a post introducing the videos. I also have behind the scene photos I could use.

YES! Think I suggested that somewhere in this issue. We could also feature the post in 'Explorations', the front page (recent posts section), and use to promote over social media.

Be sure to read over and follow up on some of my other comments in https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/36#issuecomment-1035526318 - specifically regarding whether or not we should have a separate page for all the videos - I created a quick page to evaluate - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/2021-vr-festival/

Either way, I can start the process by importing the posts - then I can tweak the landing pages once we're happy with them on stage.

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

Since the videos are in the watch page I don’t think we need another page. I started a draft post on the live site. Just uploaded some photos for now. Not aure what format to use.

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Maybe I can do a post introducing the videos. I also have behind the scene photos I could use.

YES! Think I suggested that somewhere in this issue. We could also feature the post in 'Explorations', the front page (recent posts section), and use to promote over social media.

Be sure to read over and follow up on some of my other comments in #36 (comment) https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/36#issuecomment-1035526318

Either way, I can start the process by importing the posts - then I can tweak the landing pages once we're happy with them on stage.

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

I think a stand alone page for each series works better - that way we can link directly from the front page and the post you're drafting - also from the 'more' links on the 'watch' landing page (see this example) - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/

And like I said (at least I think I did), we could also put some intro copy (festival info, VR info, etc) fore the grids on each page - here again are the pages on stage - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/2021-vr-festival/ https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/2020-vr-festival/

Also I removed the event section and added some of the videos in the 'watch' column (again just for a quick evaluation) - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/angel-city-jazz-fest/

Personally I don't think it's a bad thing to display something like videos on multiple landing pages. Looking at it now, I think we might want to reformat the page.

Anyhow, we can tackle that after I add the videos to the other landing pages. If you're good with linking to the stand alone pages, I can replicate that pretty quick on the production site.

angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

Ok, where would you link to the dedicated pages? Under the jazz festival page? I don’t think we want to create a new item on the main menu correct? I’m away from my computer until tomorrow. I will check the pages out then.

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I think a stand alone page for each series works better - that way we can link directly from the front page and the post you're drafting - also from the 'more' links on the 'watch' landing page (see this example) - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/

And like I said (at least I think I did), we could also put some intro copy (festival info, VR info, etc) fore the grids on each page - here again are the pages on stage - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/2021-vr-festival/ https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/2020-vr-festival/

Also I removed the event section and added some of the videos in the 'watch' column (again just for a quick evaluation) - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/angel-city-jazz-fest/

Personally I don't think it's a bad thing to display something like videos on multiple landing pages. Looking at it now, I think we might want to reformat the page.

Anyhow, we can tackle that after I add the videos to the other landing pages. If you're good with linking to the stand alone pages, I can replicate that pretty quick on the production site.

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angelcityjazz commented 2 years ago

Ok, not sure what copy to put on the dedicated video pages or where they would be linked from but they look ok. For the festival page, I will try to find the banner without dates and maybe tweak the text a bit but you can go ahead and make all of these changes live.

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Ok, where would you link to the dedicated pages? Under the jazz festival page? I don’t think we want to create a new item on the main menu correct? I’m away from my computer until tomorrow. I will check the pages out then.

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I think a stand alone page for each series works better - that way we can link directly from the front page and the post you're drafting - also from the 'more' links on the 'watch' landing page (see this example) - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/

And like I said (at least I think I did), we could also put some intro copy (festival info, VR info, etc) fore the grids on each page - here again are the pages on stage - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/2021-vr-festival/ https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/watch/2020-vr-festival/

Also I removed the event section and added some of the videos in the 'watch' column (again just for a quick evaluation) - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/angel-city-jazz-fest/

Personally I don't think it's a bad thing to display something like videos on multiple landing pages. Looking at it now, I think we might want to reformat the page.

Anyhow, we can tackle that after I add the videos to the other landing pages. If you're good with linking to the stand alone pages, I can replicate that pretty quick on the production site.

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gusaus commented 2 years ago

Ok - I modified the following landing pages - click the buttons and you'll see they link to the stand-alone pages - https://angelcityjazz.com/ https://angelcityjazz.com/watch/

There are a couple modifications (for instance adding a category link on the landing pages and the video pages themselves) I'd like to make. Also would like to help format the afformentioned landing pages along with the festival page.

It'll be best to make the changes on stage and then copy over to live when we're happy. I'm not going to have time to do a proper job until Monday, but I did create a column and some placeholder text just in case you were planning on spending time over the weekend. You'll also see I added the pages as submenu items - just to see what that would look like - https://angelcityjazz.com/staging/6473/

Personally, I'd recommend 1) making sure we're happy with all the video pages (and that all the embeds are links are working); 2) copying over the reformatted landing pages (when we're happy and sign off); 3) publishing the post you're working on (I can help with that); 4) come up with a plan to promote

If that sounds reasonable, I'll update this issue https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/34 (you'll see I altered the title) next chance I get and then will dive back in on Monday!

In the meantime, comment here if you are running into any glaring issues on the live site with regards to the archives.

gusaus commented 2 years ago

I did a quick check of some of the 2020 archives and realized the ones mentioned in this comment still embed the VOD https://github.com/OpenProducer/angelcityjazz/issues/33#issuecomment-955102400