Protohedgehog commented 6 years ago

Do we need a little film clip for this module? If so, who?

Some suggestions here.

ivogrigorov commented 6 years ago

FYI

Script in prep for a max 10 min short clip (1000 words, intro, 4x200 word paragraphs, wrap) to support e-learning/self-learning/blended-learning (and of course this MOOC!) on an issue Open Science sceptics confront me at training sessions: how to optimise disclosure without threatening traditional Intellectual Property Rights?

The content is defined by DTU Legal+DTU Patent geeks (in the red corner), and of course the FAIR+Open crowd (in the blue corner). The case example is build around GNU-MIT-Apache licenses and aims to present a simple decision tree for sceptical researchers in a way that empowers them to act.

The "script" could provide context for Module and hopefully disarm the IPR-sceptics (both researchers and research support staff!). In the Module 5 Structure, the "script" would best fit just prior to "Open Source licensing" section here https://github.com/OpenScienceMOOC/Module-5-Open-Research-Software-and-Open-Source/blob/master/content_development/MAIN.md#software-citation-

Who to film? Ideally a LEGAL expert if we can attract one. If not, I am entertaining the idea of engaging the UN SDG Ambassadors who will immediate get why Open Science IS a scalable contribution to Sustainable Development Goals, and might help read and record script.

Happy to circulate "script" as soon as I braindump it on a page. Does this fit Module 5 plans/ideas/vission? Feel free to shoot it down from the sky, nothing will be lost.

Bests Ivo

Protohedgehog commented 6 years ago

Hm. Someone from the SSI might be a good candidate for this one? @alexmorley @Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman - any ideas?

Protohedgehog commented 6 years ago

Some possible suggestions for now:

      - [Chris Holdgraf](https://twitter.com/choldgraf)
      - [Neil Saunders](https://twitter.com/neilfws)
      - [Abby Cabunoc Mayes](https://twitter.com/abbycabs)
      - [Chris DiBona](https://twitter.com/cdibona)
      - [Arfon Smith](https://twitter.com/arfon)
      - [Jan Gondol](https://twitter.com/jangondol)
      - [Konrad Förstner](https://twitter.com/konradfoerstner)
      - [Ina Smith](https://twitter.com/ismonet)
      - [Carl Malamud](https://twitter.com/carlmalamud)

Suggested style: Au naturale (i.e., not a floating head behind a desk thing..)

Protohedgehog commented 6 years ago

Also: Paola Masuzzo, Data scientist Naomi Penfold, eLIFE Titus Brown, UC Davis Rene Bernard, BIH Daniel Katz, NCSA Neil Chue Hong, Software.ac.uk Heidi Seibold, LMU Anna Kostikova, Inside DNA

jcolomb commented 6 years ago

Maybe worth indicating here what will be the content of this interview-like video. And what is its purpose.

But I would prefer non-male. Maybe we can also get only a picture at the beginning and then use the audio as a voice over for a different related video content?

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Protohedgehog commented 6 years ago

That is an excellent idea. Plenty of non-male choices above, nicely, and lots of choices in how to present too. I guess for this, the purpose would be a 3-5 minute video explaining why FOSS etc. are all intrinsic and important parts of open science, and the benefits that it brings. This is what the script development guide is for.

Protohedgehog commented 6 years ago

Comments from Gareth O'Neil on twitter: also consider Egon Willighagen and Peter Murray-Rust.

ctb commented 6 years ago

happy to participate but you have lots of great names so also happy to watch from afar :)

petermr commented 6 years ago

Happy to help, but I also understand the "male" aspect, and even more the "old white male" aspect.

pcmasuzzo commented 6 years ago

I am far too shy for this :p However, my 2 cents: in a few minutes give a bit of rationale and then show the core/benefits of FOSS. Happy to contribute with my set of slides where I go into this with nice examples from GitHub (I do not really have to contribute, the slides are here, CC-BY licensed and ready to be used).

npch commented 6 years ago

If you're looking for a legal expert, you could try Clemence Tanzi at qLegal at QMUL or Kendra Albert at the Cyberlaw Clinic at Harvard. Both are versed in the legal aspects of open source, but don't come from an open science background.

For someone from an open science / open source background, how about Abigail Cabunoc Mayes at Mozilla or Carina Haupt from the German Aerospace Center (DLR)?

Protohedgehog commented 6 years ago

Thank you all for your feedback on this! @pcmasuzzo @npch @ctb @jcolomb

So, I have decided on a strategy and a list of people to film now for this. The intention of the video is to explain to learners why they should be doing this module. What the advantage of learning this material is, in terms of how it will affect their daily research practices. For this, what I want to get is short snippets (30 secs to 2 mins, tops) from 6 people (below, all confirmed) telling a story about why and how OSS is important to them and impacted them, and give a real world story. So, for example, 'Using OSS, I was able to remotely collaborate with researcher X in country Y, which led to the sharing of research code and data and ultimately a publication in journal Z.' So this will come in at the Introduction just before the learning outcomes, and really nail why people should be doing the module in terms of a human component.

For this, based on Twitter and GH discussions, the following people confirmed for this are: @petermr, Heidi Seibold, Konrad Foerstner, Anna Kostikova, Ina Smith, and Abby Cabunoc Mayes. This selection represents a really awesome mix of backgrounds and experiences on OSS. I'll get things rolling by email.

Now, importantly, I want this video to be completely distinct from something like a formal university lecture. I want it to be personal, natural, and engaging. So less floating heads and instructional, and more casual. So, I don't think an explicit script will be neccessary, although some little prompts might. What I want produce ultimately is something inspirational that gets people to go 'OK, this sounds useful to me and I should take and complete this module'.

Thoughts? :)

petermr commented 6 years ago

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My contribution would describe The Blue Obelisk ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Obelisk) a grouos of 20+ F/OSS people/groups in Chemistry that I catalyzed 13 years ago and still working

So, I have decided on a strategy and a list of people to film now for this. The intention of the video is to explain to learners why they should be doing this module. What the advantage of learning this material is, in terms of how it will affect their daily research practices. For this, what I want to get is short snippets (30 secs to 2 mins, tops) from 6 people (below, all confirmed) telling a story about why and how OSS is important to them and impacted them, and give a real world story. So, for example, 'Using OSS, I was able to remotely collaborate with researcher X in country Y, which led to the sharing of research code and data and ultimately a publication in journal Z.' So this will come in at the Introduction just before the learning outcomes, and really nail why people should be doing the module in terms of a human component.

I can put together an Open Source story. IMO it has to show the software, not the authors. We could include rotaing molecules and how BO tools are used in production by commercial companies. There's a lot to tell.

For this, based on Twitter and GH discussions, the following people confirmed for this are: @petermr https://github.com/petermr, Heidi Seibold, Konrad Foerstner, Anna Kostikova, Ina Smith, and Abby Cabunoc Mayes. This selection represents a really awesome mix of backgrounds and experiences on OSS. I'll get things rolling by email.

Now, importantly, I want this video to be completely distinct from something like a formal university lecture. I want it to be personal, natural, and engaging. So less floating heads and instructional, and more casual. So, I don't think an explicit script will be neccessary, although some little prompts might. What I want produce ultimately is something inspirational that gets people to go 'OK, this sounds useful to me and I should take and complete this module'.

It's possible, though significant work, to create a 60 sec clip. I reckon it takes me 1 day for 60 seconds. This includes movie clips, slides , captions , voiceovers, etc. (Yes it's possible to do a talking head in half an hour, or a movie clip of a single software being used, but that's not what you need.

Thoughts? :)

The key decision is: are you going to have 6 1-minute clips with no overall editing, or will you have an editor who creates an overall story line and introduces the different themes.

If I were doing this it would probably take me a week. I think you have to have a directort/editor or it will look very patchy. At least you have to collect the key messages/stories from each participant. Why did they do it? what does it look like, did it work out, etc.

Assuming this is of good quallity, then it should be able to standalone and be used as an advert for the MOOC and also for F/OSS

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Protohedgehog commented 6 years ago

Even more work for me as I have never done this before. But hard work means that my skills will improve. I will be in touch via email with you all very shortly - thank you, @petermr :)

petermr commented 6 years ago

It's a really good idea to do this.

The Shuttleworth applications required a 5 mins video and when I ran Panton applications and ContentMine Fellowships we requested them. (It's a really good way of interviewers getting to understand the applicants.)

There are good tools to support Movies - MovieMaker on Windows, iMovie on MAC and doubtless similar on *nix. I have several streams:

video clips
static slides
captions
screen captures
voice over.

Some can be omitted.

talking heads, except for exceptional/engaging people, is boring, especially when describing technical stuff. If you do use this, it's a good idea to put captions over then so people, especially not native speakers, can pick up the key words (some presenters mumble)
you can do pseudo animations where you take lots of screen shots (say of a postit board) and play them at 5 second intervals , with voice over. (I do animaltronics (sic) with stuffed toys but that's a bit unusual.
some people use a cartoon drawing package where it writes the words and generates speech. I'm not a great fan, but some of my colleagues like them.
if it's done carefully, then drawing on the board and talking can be useful. But it takes more work than it looks at first sight.

I think you will need a story board for this so there is a natural progression. Moving froma 30-sec clip of A into a 30sec clip of B can be very abrupt. I would generally have a title slide in the middle telling the viewer what they can now expect. e.g.

"Dr Tuna Fish explains Open Source Oceanography: "Open GIS software saved my project"

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Protohedgehog commented 6 years ago

Working on this right now, @petermr! I put a lot of effort prior to starting into setting up a recording protocol and other preparation material. At the moment I'm just adapting this a little to create a unique structure for this proposed video, and then will be in touch with all of you :)

jcolomb commented 6 years ago

I will personally try to create mashups (use unrelated videos to give a different perspecive of the voice over text which is the content, see https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/075937-002-A/moneypulation-2-10/ (in french))

sounds like a lot of work, though.

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Protohedgehog commented 5 years ago

I've moved this now to email for the next steps, so will close this for now :)

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