Open mattodd opened 9 years ago
@mattodd I understand and agree to your guiding principle of new analogs being below LogP of 3. While all of your rationale and reasoning is well thought out and sound, we might have to break with that rule for the short term. The analogs that I had proposed were based on testing a few new SAR ideas, but they also were chosen based on currently available chemicals in my inventory, feasibility of synthesis by my students, and to closely match active analogs (not necessarily metabolically stable analogs.) Essentially I chose to de-tune druglike characteristics in order to test some new SAR. If active, the goal would then be to re-tune back in more desirable physicochemical properties. Long story short, we would like to continue with our current set of targets (which exceed LogP=3) and then adjust later of they are active. Is this acceptable?
If the higher logP analogues are made to address a specific question regarding SAR then I would not see any issue.
Various musings: FC(F)OC1=CC=C(N=C1)C1=NN=C2C=NC=C(N12)S(=O)(=O)NC1=C(C#N)C(F)=NC=C1 CC(C)(C(O)C1=NC=CC(=C1)C#N)C1=CN=CC2=NN=C(N12)C1=CC=C(OC(F)F)N=C1 FC(F)OC1=CN=C(C=C1)C1=NN=C2C=NC=C(C#CC(=O)NC3=CC(F)=NC=C3)N12 N#CC4=C(F)N=CC=C4(OS(=O)(=O)C3=CN=CC2=NN=C(C1=NC=C(OC(F)F)C=C1)N23) N#CC4=C(F)N=CC=C4(OS(=O)(=O)NC3=CN=CC2=NN=C(C1=NC=C(OC(F)F)C=C1)N23) N#CC4=C(F)N=CC=C4(OS(=O)(=O)N(C3=CN=CC2=NN=C(C1=NC=C(OC(F)F)C=C1)N23)C) N#CC1=C(F)N=CC=C1N(C(C)C)S(=O)(=O)C4=CN=CC3=NN=C(C2=NC=C(OC(F)F)C=C2)N34 CC(OC1=CN=CC2=NN=C(N12)C1=CC=C(C=C1)N(C)C(F)F)C1=NC=C(Cl)C(=N1)C#N FC(F)OC1=CN=C(N=C1)C1=C(N=C2C=NC=C(NC(=O)NC3=NC(Cl)=C(C=N3)C#N)N12)C(F)(F)F
Hi @MedChemProf I'd agree with @drc007 - violations of the logP rule are fine if there's another reason to make the molecule - the Shackleford being a case in point. In any case if you want to make a molecule, then go ahead and make it! The logP "rule" is just a best guess guideline for everyone that is intended to help gross parameters of the molecule and therefore hopefully help lower clearance rates.
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I am very curious about the "open-ring" compounds - I predict [that] they may not be very potent because the V-like shape that I believe is crucial to the functioning of these drugs is quite distorted in the open-ring molecules - Perhaps a open-ring molecule should be created in order to test this theory.
I'd need more convincing of this "V-theory" @MFernflower . Is there a correlation that shows compounds with that shape are active and those that are not that shape are inactive? We've lots of data to allow such an assessment. And let's imagine that the molecule you propose is inactive. Can we lay that inactivity at the door of the overall molecular shape, or might there be other factors?
Anyone have a synthetic approach for The Triazole? I am assuming we might be able to add in TMS-acetylene via a nucleophilic displacement of a chloride, followed by deprotection, to yield the precursor alkyne. We'd then need that 4-azidopyridine. Pitfalls?
Mandrake - to save people's email inbox fatigue, could you please group your comments together into longer messages as much as you're able? I suspect people following this repo might appreciate that. Yes, you would need to model the molecules in 3D and compare the expected structures with activities. You can do this in the absence of a proven molecular target, but if you don't have access to the software you need for that, it's going to be hard to substantiate the "V-theory". In the new year the plan is to start more seriously on an effort to correlate compound structure and activity - to build what is known as a pharmacophore model for Series 4. I will be writing up the starting point for that as soon as I can so we know where we all stand at the outset. But again that can be done in the absence of a confirmed biomolecular target.
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Also its a bit hard to track MOA if we dont have a PDB of PFATP4 - It seems like alot of compounds hit SERCA but seems like we cant determine if it's competitive or allosteric inhbition -
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I understand fully, I am just leaving the idea of V-theory out in the open if someone with magnitudes more firepower than me wants to tackle it and prove/disprove it
Addendum: I wish I could be more helpful than I currently am - I feel like I am parasitizing (pun intended) off of you guys and gals with my ideas..
I am happy to do similar designs as before. While updating the activity model I noticed the values of 'PfaI EC50 uMol (Mean)' for OSM-S-277, OSM-S-278 and OSM-S-279 seem to be transposed a row (compare to 'Pfal IC50 (Syngene)').
Thanks @wvanhoorn - your analysis would be very useful to this process. Thanks also for the alert about those compounds - fixed. While we work out what to do with some difficult values (those that have qualifiers, or % inhibition values at certain concs) the "mean" column is manually created. Suboptimal.
Hi all, Here are plots of logP (calculated using MOE) against mean pEC50 for series 4 compounds (coloured by ether TAP / amide TAP / other series)
Generally it seems that compounds need to have logP > 3 in order to have a chance at being active in the assay. Do you agree a logP > 3 rather than logP < 3 criterion is necessary to ensure compounds enter the cells and potency is measurable?
As a check, here is the logP-potency correlation for series 1 compounds which shows the same logP cutoff necessary for potency.
Very interesting analysis @MJTarnowski . I guess the point is that we know we can generate potent compounds with high-ish logP values. The trick is to maintain the potency as logP is lowered. This is making the assumption that the high logP is responsible for higher-than-desired metabolic clearance rates. So the current strategy (discussed as the main item of business at the last meeting) is to make compounds with lower logP, see if they can be reasonably potent, and then assess microsomal stability. i.e. to alter the bulk properties of the compounds rather than trying to block positions on the molecules. What do you think of the strategy?
As was done last summer, here is an analysis of compounds that could be made using interpolation, i.e. using core and Rgroups that have been used before. First the model was rebuilt using the latest 'PfaI EC50 uMol (Mean)' data from the master spreadsheet:
The quality of the model is sufficient to use it to select compounds. There are 104 NorthWest substituents which combined with 24 NorthEast gives 2496 possible combinations (per core, only triazolopyrazine core was used). This virtual library was filtered by AlogP <= 3.5 and no amide linkers. Two selections were made:
The selections are plotted below: Exploitation = diamond, Exploration = star, Known (already made) = square, Other suggestions from blog = triangle, Not eligible (not passing filter) = grey. The colour gradient is based on model score (blue to red = low to high).
The same compounds (minus the suggestions from the blog) are plotted in the heatmaps below. Exploitation = 1, Exploration = 2, Known = x. The top heatmap shows the effect of the AlogP/amide filter.
Structures of the selections:
Gsheets with details (including Smiles, InChi and InChiKey. I don't have a tool to calculate IUPAC names in bulk:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q14mdFfLInbpqbhLcCpC-1C1pDczIc6oVLJpRZIqUQM/edit?usp=sharing
Also as before some transformations have been applied to see if novel structures could be generated. All transformations are based on ChEMBL, i.e. for each transformation there is at least one pair of molecules in ChEMBL that exemplify the transformation. Only transformations that introduce a change in number of atoms <= 4 were attempted. Publicly available filter like PAINS were applied to remove unlikely products as well as QED > 0.5. As with the interpolated designs: AlogP <= 3.5 and no amide linkers. Similar Exploitation and Exploration picks were made. In the graphs below: colour gradient by model score, Diamond = exploitation, Star = exploration:
Gsheet of the above selections: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K-FjQIpTWNTEVwyS_4K_RrS_PEGh1EV5iq_sB-271To/edit?usp=sharing
I understand that what I am about to put forth is in direct contradiction to some of the analogs that my students and I are currently looking to build, but I just wanted to interject a few thoughts into the discussion. Firstly, I do concur with @mattodd concerning the need to reduce the LogP to potentially mitigate some of the metabolism that may be taking place via Cyp oxidation. While there are still a few more areas to explore some SAR, it appears to me that the group has already tried many of the strategies used to reduce LogP and introduce some added polarity. Most of those attempts has resulted in compounds of significantly lower potency. My concern is that the current core scaffold needs to retain the 3 aryl groups (the core triazolopyrazine, the aryl ring attached to the triazole, and the aryl ring at the end of the linker) in order to be active, and that the core is the primary culprit for metabolic liability. While looking at making some changes to the triazolopyrazine core, I used the predictive P450 module in Optibrium's software package 'StarDrop'. All of the analogs that I ran using their predictive algorithm resulted in one of the carbons adjacent to the pyrazine nitrogen as the potentially most metabolically liable position. It appears that this has some evidence backing it up from your earlier work looking at Metabolic ID. Below is the calculation for OSM-S-175 which had some clearance data in the master spreadsheet.
I do not know if it would be possible, but would it make sense to take one of the compounds similar to OSM-S-175, but with a significantly lower LogP and run the same MLM or HLM study? I also ran OSM-S-185 and it had a similar calculated result to to 175. I was simply trying to see even if we had a compound that met the LogP criteria, but was cleared at a similar rate, then that may indicate that the core itself is the achilles heel. Perhaps then more emphasis should be directed at a scaffold hops versus R-group modifications.
On a separate note, there was a comment on another thread describing the conformation of the various analogs as 'V-Shaped'. While thinking about triazolopyrazine scaffold hops, I have also been trying to minimize the new structures and see if they can overlap with a minimized version of some of the active compounds in Series 4. Using the simple minimization tools that I have at my disposal, most of the conformations have the aromatic ring on the linker arm distant from the aromatic ring on the triazole portion of the core. Just as a thought experiment, I docked some of the Series 4 compounds against a calcium channel that was used as a homology model to the PfATP4ase channel. A few of the docked structures showed an internal pi-stack between the two aromatic regions of the molecule that to me could be termed 'V-shaped'. I know that the site of action of the Series 4 compounds is still unknown, but it at least gave me an appreciation of a few alternative possibilities that I was not considering before.
Thanks @wvanhoorn - just to clarify at the outset, the sheet that you link to at the very bottom of the post - are the compounds therein the same as the ones for which you provide structures further up, or are they distinct?
@MedChemProf Yes indeed, this is an issue. Nice analysis. Interestingly the results you obtain are a little different from those from the analysis @drc007 carried out that is summarised here. I think you're quite right that we ought to be trialling compounds with improved logP in microsomal stability assays to assess this directly. We don't want to be tinkering with the wrong portion of the molecule. You can see here that some inherited compounds were made that tried to block the position implicated most in your analysis. But it doesn't look like we have any clearance data on these compounds. Perhaps we should revisit. I will check with MMV whether any of these original compounds remain.
@mattodd I agree this is a well reasoned approach to improving metabolic clearance having reviewed the correlations between logD and metabolic data though we should be wary that low logP compounds (including those already made) could appear inactive in the pfal assay if the target is intracellular and cell permeability limits access.. though if the target is pfATP4, a transporter protein, then permeability should not be an issue I think..? In line with the observation of very few OSM compounds with logP <3 being active in the pfal assay, the output of the GSK tres cantos HTS showed a higher than typical distribution of logP for hit compounds, see below their figure (2b) and comment from the paper. This shows only ~10% of HTS hits against P. Falciparum had logP < 3 compared to ~44% of the GSK screening collection which have logP < 3 :
taken from doi:10.1038/nature09107
From a physicochemical point of view, our screen selected for compounds having a larger molecular mass and a higher hydrophobicityindex than the average for the source compound collection (446 versus 385 Da; 5 versus 3.3 clogP, respectively; Fig. 2a, b). The meaning of this observation is unclear, but it may have to do with the physicochemical requirements needed to reach intracellular targets.
Most interesting @MJTarnowski - is this a feature of hits (as discovered from screens) vs leads (desirable, designed) @PaulWillisMMV ?
@mattodd @MedChemProf with respect to the metabolite prediction, the work I did was for the ether series not the amides, I would expect the electron-withdrawing amide to markedly change the sites of metabolism on the ring.
@mattodd, there are two designs: the first consists of exploitation + exploration of interpolated structures using known Rgroups (most of the post, structures in the first gsheet link) and the second exploitation + exploration of structures with novel Rgroups (last figure, structures in the second gsheet link). Both designs consist of 20 compounds, 10 exploitation + 10 exploration, giving a total of 40.
Hi @MedChemProf and @drc007 an update from Paul Willis on available samples of compounds relevant to blocking that high-risk position:
MMV668823: none MMV669102: 6mg MMV669541: none MMV669311: 4mg
Though as you can see these are all ethers, as @drc007 correctly points out. In that case I worry that we needn't test these, but perhaps could do well to secure corresponding samples of the amides containing such blocking groups? Such structures are not currently under consideration. @MedChemProf out of interest what happens when you perform the same analysis with an ether?
@mattodd and @drc007 - I do not have access to my predictive runs at the moment, but I also ran the metabolic predictions with ethers, amines, amides and also methylene linkers. The software returned the same result for all analogs where the primary site of metabolism was the triazolopyrazine (same position as was labeled on my previous post.) I maybe made the mistake of only uploading a representative of the metabolic profile instead of making it clearer that this same trend was seen across the series. I can provide other profiles when I get back to the office next week. I would also be happy to add any compound of interest into the set if someone would like. One note, we are starting into a holiday weekend so I will not be able to run the calculations until Monday. Sorry for the delay, but I am not sorry to be getting the break. That is why I rushed the guys in the mass spec lab today to run my sample.
Sorry, I should have also added that I did already run the four compounds you listed. I will post those results when I can.
I was thinking maybe we could replace one of the carbon atoms (the one the OH group joined onto in the alcohol) with a nonchiral center. (N,NMe,S,O)
@MFernflower Whilst thioacetals are more stable than the corresponding acetals I suspect there would be a concern about the acid stability. Hydrolysis would also release formaldehyde.
@mattodd @alintheopen - Maybe this was corrected somewhere else, but during a search of the site I came to the OSM Blog discussing the 'OSM Series-4 Next Round of Synthesis' (http://malaria.ourexperiment.org/the_osm_blog/8172/OSM_Series_4__Next_Round_of_Synthesis.html) and at the bottom of the page was listed the SMILES and InChI for compounds OSM-272 and OSM-273. These two compounds seem to be switched however when I looked at the Data Table (http://www.cheminfo.org/flavor/malaria/Display_data.html). I just wanted to confirm that the compound OSM labels are correct in the data table and reversed on the Blog site. Thanks. BTW, two of my students have started working in the lab and they should have the 3-(4-chlorophenyl)-[1,2,4]triazolo[4,3-a]pyrazin-5-amine [ NC1=CN=CC2=NN=C(N21)C3=CC=C(C=C3)Cl ] scaled up by the end of the week. This will be the feedstock for another 10 students who will begin working next week. Hopefully, within a month after that we should have our targets completed. (Famous last words I know, but I am forever an optimist.)
That's awesome progress, Chase. With the amine in hand we can make a bunch of things for the next round of evaluation.
The compounds you mention are old enough to still be on the old Experimental Procedures site.
OSM-S-272 ought to be this: http://malaria.ourexperiment.org/osm_procedures/11548/Preparation_of_OSMS272.html OSM-S-273 ought to be this: http://malaria.ourexperiment.org/osm_procedures/11554/Preparation_of_OSMS273.html
The Inchikey and Inchis seem to be OK. I pasted the SMILEs into Chemdraw to check. You're sure they're reversed somewhere?
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@mattodd https://github.com/mattodd @alintheopen https://github.com/alintheopen - Maybe this was corrected somewhere else, but during a search of the site I came to the OSM Blog discussing the 'OSM Series-4 Next Round of Synthesis' ( http://malaria.ourexperiment.org/the_osm_blog/8172/OSM_Series_4__Next_Round_of_Synthesis.html) and at the bottom of the page was listed the SMILES and InChI for compounds OSM-272 and OSM-273. These two compounds seem to be switched however when I looked at the Data Table ( http://www.cheminfo.org/flavor/malaria/Display_data.html). I just wanted to confirm that the compound OSM labels are correct in the data table and reversed on the Blog site. Thanks. BTW, two of my students have started working in the lab and they should have the 3-(4-chlorophenyl)-[1,2,4]triazolo[4,3-a]pyrazin-5-amine [ NC1=CN=CC2=NN=C(N21)C3=CC=C(C=C3)Cl ] scaled up by the end of the week. This will be the feedstock for another 10 students who will begin working next week. Hopefully, within a month after that we should have our targets completed. (Famous last words I know, but I am forever an optimist.)
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Happy New Year Everyone! Just a short post to update all on progress of compounds: https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/4386101/11089993/6b4200ca-88c2-11e5-8011-a816df8ce376.png Nemesis - Being Synthesised by me (Alice) CRO - @mattodd to follow up on ordering this and/or enantiomers as per #292 Sydney Grammar Pyridine - 'Best' pyridine isomer being progressed to final product by summer student @sebjd following his work with Paul King. Dimethylamine - Made by me - needs further purification Homoalcohol - Will be made from ester (progress update next week) Homoamine - Will be made from ester (progress update next week) Shackleford - Route and chemist to be decided Swain - Route and chemist to be decided
Now, 'The Desireables' https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/4386101/11090021/982137f0-88c2-11e5-96a2-8aeea8e0fcdc.png Reversed Amide - Being targeted by @MedChemProf and his class AZ idea - Not currently being targetted, more discussion required
and finally, 'The Hypotheticals' https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/4386101/11090058/d5a696f6-88c2-11e5-8073-955a16fb8a54.png Not currently a priority and require more discussion and hopefully input from other synthetic chemists who might want to join OSM.
Sydney hopes to ship another set of compounds in Jan/Feb and I will post updates on progress next week.
@alintheopen I just wanted to make you aware that we ran into a slight hiccup on the scale-up of the triazolo-pyrazine-5-amine. When I ran the reduction on small scale it worked without a problem, but upon scale-up, it looks like we did not include enough water in the reaction and the primary product was the iminophosphorane. We are now working on the hydrolysis to liberate the desired amine. One other thing to note is that the iminophorsphorane and the amine products have roughly the same rf on TLC using a variety of solvent systems. LCMS showed the expected molecular ion for the iminophosphorane.
Interesting functional group! Perhaps you can cleave it to the amine under acid and reducing conditions? (I'm no expert in synthesis)
Hydrolysis of the iminophosphorane failed under several different conditions. We are restarting the synthetic sequence and we will reduce the azide via hydrogenation instead of the Staudinger type conditions. Bottom line however, we will have a delay until the final targets are completed. @mattodd @alintheopen
I don't know too much about synthesis - But I found an interesting way to hydrogenate that might be of use to you all:
thanks MFernflower, do you have the journal reference too? I also had problems with this reduction and started to think I should have purified the azide prior to reduction.
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I don't know too much about synthesis - But I found an i [image: NiCl2 Hydro] https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/3164942/12570098/aac86fe8-c3a2-11e5-9420-156c122bd510.png nteresting way to hydrogenate that might be of use to you all:
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I dont do synth, I'm a computational/sar kinda person - I just came across this by accident because it had something to do with the industrial production of a few different pesticides... - Update: Found it on WP - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_boride
OK thanks for that, will keep it in mind! Cheers Alice
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I dont do synthetics - I just came across this because it had something to do with the industrial production of a few different pesticides. I found the image on wikipedia!!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_boride
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No problem! I am very glad I contributed something other than sketching up and 3d modeling novel analogues!
If anyone is curious - You can download all my SMILES here: https://github.com/MFernflower/mfernflower_osm
@alintheopen Reduction of azides using 10% Pd/C under H2 atmosphere works quite well. I have done many of these. The only reason that I did not run that reduction was we did not have any Pd/C immediately available, but I did have the triphenylphosphine. I can dig up some references in the morning and post them.
Would Raney + H2 work? (This would be cheaper than platinum one can assume)
Hi Chase
Yes thanks - was going to try that next but wanted to follow the procedure that you guys were trying in the first instance. I'm focusing on some other stuff for now but will give it a go once I get a moment - always good to avoid Nickel!
Thanks for that though MFernflower. Also, great idea to collate all of your ideas in a doc, that way we can look at them together and I will do when I have some spare moments. Cheers!
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@alintheopen https://github.com/alintheopen Reduction of azides using 10% Pd/C under H2 atmosphere works quite well. I have done many of these. The only reason that I did not run that reduction was we did not have any Pd/C immediately available, but I did have the triphenylphosphine. I can dig up some references in the morning and post them.
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@alintheopen I am still trying to figure out what changed between the first time we were able to successfully reduce the azide with the Ph3P / THF / H2O conditions versus the moderate scale up reaction. In any case we are bringing up more material. The following three references contain reactions that are pretty close to the conditions that I have used in the past to reduce azides. 1) Journal of Organic Chemistry (2005) 70(18), 7455-7458; 2) Journal of Medicinal Chemistry (2003) 46(11), 2177-2186; and 3) Journal of Medicinal Chemistry (2001) 44(21), 3355-3368. I have to order a new regulator for the hydrogen tank and the catalyst, and it will probably be another few weeks before we are able to re-synthesize the azide in sufficient quantity.
Quick update. Edwin Tse has joined the team here in Sydney and is taking aim at the sulfone, the Tianyi, the ketone and the triazole. His lab notebook is here. Also has a DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.6070/H4319SXR. These four targets will be converted to separate issues shortly.
Very exciting news!!!!!!
If he has the ability - Perhaps he could tackle two of my hypothetical molecules? [One of my dreams is to have a molecule of mine synthesized - I know it's a bit odd]
FC(F)OC1=CC=C(C=C1)C1=NN=C2C=NC=C(N12)S(=O)(=O)NC1=CC=CC=C1 [Sulfonamide Idea] FC(F)OC1=CC=C(C=C1)C1=C(F)N=C2C=NC=C(OCCC3=NC=CC=C3)N12 [The Screaming Flea]
"Screaming flea"? I'm not seeing it.
Mandrake - very general question. What do you think about your trying to secure interest from someone (company, grad student) in the greater NYC area in making one of these molecules?
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Very exciting news!!!!!!
If he has the ability - Perhaps he could tackle two of my hypothetical molecules? [One of my dreams is to have a molecule of mine synthesized - I know it's a bit odd]
FC(F)OC1=CC=C(C=C1)C1=NN=C2C=NC=C(N12)S(=O)(=O)NC1=CC=CC=C1 [Sulfonamide] FC(F)OC1=CC=C(C=C1)C1=C(F)N=C2C=NC=C(OCCC3=NC=CC=C3)N12 [The Screaming Flea]
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I have no idea how to even go about getting my ideas made into reality [ I have a folder of about 50 molecules that could be tested!!!] - It would be interesting if you could somehow arrange me with someone who help me be more helpful to you all. I feel a bit like a burden to this project..
Also, Screaming Flea was a working name [I ran out of working names that day]
@mattodd @alintheopen Since I was in GitHub, I thought I would send out an update. We have not abandoned our targets, we are just taking MUCH longer than planned to complete them. Chemistry is still ongoing and moving forward. I will send out updates as we get closer to finishing the targets.
@mattodd I just saw this announcement on OIDD Participant Awards: https://openinnovation.lilly.com/dd/oidd-in-action/member-awards.html ...I just wanted to mention it in case we want to re-visit the option.
I do, very much. Bandwidth problem. This is on me to organise login using University of Sydney credentials. Then we can see what we need to submit etc.
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An update on what will be shipped by the end of April from OSM to Syngene for biological evaluation - see below. Once these are gone and evaluated we'll plan the next set.
@MedChemProf do you think you might be able to say which compounds you're making might be ready by the end of the month? Might be nice to evaluate these together if they're ready.
Perhaps the cubane analog could be part of the next set. #379
(Strings below. Humans please ignore.) Thioether: FC(F)OC(C=C1)=CC=C1C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(SCC4=CC=CC=C4)N32 InChI=1S/C19H14F2N4OS/c20-19(21)26-15-8-6-14(7-9-15)18-24-23-16-10-22-11-17(25(16)18)27-12-13-4-2-1-3-5-13/h1-11,19H,12H2 KEZIWQVAJDNGBM-UHFFFAOYSA-N Sulfoxide: FC(F)OC(C=C1)=CC=C1C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(S+CC4=CC=CC=C4)N32 InChI=1S/C19H14F2N4O2S/c20-19(21)27-15-8-6-14(7-9-15)18-24-23-16-10-22-11-17(25(16)18)28(26)12-13-4-2-1-3-5-13/h1-11,19H,12H2 HSYPMILIAZBMAQ-UHFFFAOYSA-N Sulfone: FC(F)OC(C=C1)=CC=C1C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(S(CC4=CC=CC=C4)(=O)=O)N32 InChI=1S/C19H14F2N4O3S/c20-19(21)28-15-8-6-14(7-9-15)18-24-23-16-10-22-11-17(25(16)18)29(26,27)12-13-4-2-1-3-5-13/h1-11,19H,12H2 OCXPXTXAACVDON-UHFFFAOYSA-N Reversed triazole FC(F)OC(C=C1)=CC=C1C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(N4N=NC(C5=CC=CC=C5)=C4)N32 InChI=1S/C20H13F2N7O/c21-20(22)30-15-8-6-14(7-9-15)19-26-25-17-10-23-11-18(29(17)19)28-12-16(24-27-28)13-4-2-1-3-5-13/h1-12,20H WUWMNWSXMOOYGG-UHFFFAOYSA-N NW Aliphatic FC(F)OC(C=C1)=CC=C1C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(OCC(C)(C)OC)N32 InChI=1S/C17H18F2N4O3/c1-17(2,24-3)10-25-14-9-20-8-13-21-22-15(23(13)14)11-4-6-12(7-5-11)26-16(18)19/h4-9,16H,10H2,1-3H3 QPGDQEMNKJULOO-UHFFFAOYSA-N Dimethyl amine FC(F)OC(C=C1)=CC=C1C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(OCC(C4=CC=CC=C4)N(C)C)N32 InChI=1S/C22H21F2N5O2/c1-28(2)18(15-6-4-3-5-7-15)14-30-20-13-25-12-19-26-27-21(29(19)20)16-8-10-17(11-9-16)31-22(23)24/h3-13,18,22H,14H2,1-2H3 WSXRPWJACRAQOI-UHFFFAOYSA-N Homologous Alcohol FC(F)OC(C=C1)=CC=C1C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(OCC(C4=CC=CC=C4)CO)N32 InChI=1S/C21H18F2N4O3/c22-21(23)30-17-8-6-15(7-9-17)20-26-25-18-10-24-11-19(27(18)20)29-13-16(12-28)14-4-2-1-3-5-14/h1-11,16,21,28H,12-13H2 MGANJQKOPZQELF-UHFFFAOYSA-N Homologous amine FC(F)OC(C=C1)=CC=C1C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(OCC(C4=CC=CC=C4)CN)N32 InChI=1S/C21H19F2N5O2/c22-21(23)30-17-8-6-15(7-9-17)20-27-26-18-11-25-12-19(28(18)20)29-13-16(10-24)14-4-2-1-3-5-14/h1-9,11-12,16,21H,10,13,24H2 ZAYFESUSYJEUPU-UHFFFAOYSA-N Swain FC(F)OC(C=C1)=CC=C1C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(OC(C)C4=CC=C(Cl)C(Cl)=C4)N32 InChI=1S/C20H14Cl2F2N4O2/c1-11(13-4-7-15(21)16(22)8-13)29-18-10-25-9-17-26-27-19(28(17)18)12-2-5-14(6-3-12)30-20(23)24/h2-11,20H,1H3 ILDZQTSEZGQWFR-UHFFFAOYSA-N Sydney Undergrad Compounds FC(C=C1)=C(F)C=C1C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(OCCC4=CC=CC=C4)N32 InChI=1S/C19H14F2N4O/c20-15-7-6-14(10-16(15)21)19-24-23-17-11-22-12-18(25(17)19)26-9-8-13-4-2-1-3-5-13/h1-7,10-12H,8-9H2 DNQWZOZQWWSJTR-UHFFFAOYSA-N ClC(C=C1)=C(Cl)C=C1C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(OCCC4=CC=CC=C4)N32 InChI=1S/C19H14Cl2N4O/c20-15-7-6-14(10-16(15)21)19-24-23-17-11-22-12-18(25(17)19)26-9-8-13-4-2-1-3-5-13/h1-7,10-12H,8-9H2 DJLRRTBQGVDDPH-UHFFFAOYSA-N ClC1=CC=CC(C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(OCCC4=CC=CC=C4)N32)=C1Cl InChI=1S/C19H14Cl2N4O/c20-15-8-4-7-14(18(15)21)19-24-23-16-11-22-12-17(25(16)19)26-10-9-13-5-2-1-3-6-13/h1-8,11-12H,9-10H2 NMFGGQYGCNANQR-UHFFFAOYSA-N FC(C=C1)=CC=C1C2=NN=C3C=NC=C(OCCC4=CC=CC=C4)N32 InChI=1S/C19H15FN4O/c20-16-8-6-15(7-9-16)19-23-22-17-12-21-13-18(24(17)19)25-11-10-14-4-2-1-3-5-14/h1-9,12-13H,10-11H2 QCWQNZCCYWUBQM-UHFFFAOYSA-N Sydney Grammar Pyridines OC(C1=CC=CC=C1)COC2=CN=CC3=NN=C(C4=NC=CC=C4)N32 InChI=1S/C18H15N5O2/c24-15(13-6-2-1-3-7-13)12-25-17-11-19-10-16-21-22-18(23(16)17)14-8-4-5-9-20-14/h1-11,15,24H,12H2 LPWNUIYBRNJSHM-UHFFFAOYSA-N
@mattodd The disaster with the Ph3P reduction of the azide really set us back. Each of the students had to start from the beginning of the synthesis and now we have reached the end of the semester and final exams. We are now at the stage of reducing the azide with H2 / Pd(C) which does work. Excuses aside, I think I can have the below reversed amide completed by the end of the month (N1C=C(N(C(=N2)C(=CC=C3Cl)C=C3)C(=N2)C=1)NC(CC(C=CC1F)=CC=1F)=O). If desired, I could instead make the reversed amide with an additional carbon in the chain (N1C=C(N(C(=N2)C(=CC=C3Cl)C=C3)C(=N2)C=1)NC(CCC(=CC=C1F)C=C1F)=O). I will plan on making the phenyl acetic versus the phenyl propionic unless I hear back. I will need the details on where to ship the compound when completed (along with any required paperwork for international shipping.) I already have a shipping box designed for shipping chemical samples.
@mattodd @alintheopen Amine coupling with 3,4-Difluorophenylacetic acid using HBTU / HOBT / DIEA failed. No Product, only starting material recovered.
Disappointing, good you got the starting material back. I'm guessing that a hindered NH2 attached to a heterocycle containing 4 nitrogens is a very weak nucleophile. Might be worth trying a more reactive acylating agent?
It’s decision time on the next set of targets.
Alice just mailed the latest set of analogs she has shepherded through (OSM-S-291 to OSM-S-301). This set contains a few compounds that will add to the data surrounding tolerance in the northeast (arising from our 1st year undergrads and Seb Dath’s work (1, 2), and some compounds probing tolerance of a benzyl-linked pyridine in the northwest - we could still explore benzyl substituents more, particularly with blocking groups (as per Chris’s suggestion) - see below for more on this.
But which molecules are next? Generally we need to lower predicted logP, work towards lowering metabolic clearance times while maintaining or improving potency.
Analog design in this series has previously been discussed: June 2015 ELN post, March 2015 ELN Post, December 2014 Xmas Shortlist, and in issue #301.
The most recent biological evaluations were: June 2015 May 2015 Edinburgh November 2014 July 2014 and the most recent online meeting was: July 2015
Summarising the data, and all the many and various community suggestions to date (particularly from the last meeting), we can arrive at some guiding principles:
1) Benzylic blocking groups have not to date resulted in significant improvements in metabolic stability, leading to the suggestion that improvements in gross parameters of the molecules should be improved, most notably logP. cLogP for any proposed analog must now be below 3. This rules out several interesting compounds (red crosses, below) that need to be redesigned, and places a question mark over marginal compounds (orange crosses). For example those suggested by @mrinalkundu would need to be modified with this design criterion in mind - the same goes for the updated set from Mrinal. We do still need to show better the correlation between measured and calculated solubilities, though. There is no clear trend between logD and metabolic stability, for the limited number of compounds we have measured (#333). Note that the cLogP values are only approximate and are in Chemdraw sensitive to whether X-H bonds are drawn out explicitly.
2) However, blocking groups next to oxygens in the northwest linker should be explored, based on the metabolic ID work discussed in the last meeting, since it could be that O-dealkylation is occurring next to the TP ring. See also #334
4) We should probably avoid unsubstituted pyridines, generally, though the Sydney Grammar samples below should be taken through to completion given that we have them!
5) To generate an IVIVC, #351, it might be necessary to re-synthesize specific compounds, but we await input on this point from David Shackleford.
These considerations lead to three groups of compounds - the ones that ought to be made immediately, those that are highly desirable and those that are more speculatively interesting.
The Immediates
Nemesis: Alice is in the process of making this, though it’s being a tough nut.
The CRO: a compound we’ll purchase as a test of the receipt of open data, as described in this background post and in #292.
The NW Aliphatic: The des-methyl alcohol is being prepared by Alice.
Sydney Grammar Pyridines: These are still being purified - Paul King was looking at them. We’re at the stage of attaching the nucleophile in the last step.
The Dimethyl Amine: Needs to be verified based on data from the last round since methylation of that amine appears to have a profound effect on potency.
The Homologous Alcohol: Good to have, but too lipophilic so needs a re-think.
The Homologous Amine: Ditto
The Shackleford: Blocking group next to alcohol, as per last meeting. This compound fails on cLogP, but may be worth making anyway to test clearance rate. Related issue was to search for commercially-available aryl ethanols #302.
The Swain: Blocking group and benzyl ether. Ditto - may be worth it despite the poor cLogP, or structure could be tweaked? Benzyl ethers still badly explored in this series, so the 2-, 3-, and 4-Cl substituted phenethyl analogs could be checked (suggested by Chris) and then drawn by Alice.
The Desirables
Reversed Amides: These have been discussed, e.g. here. The synthetic route to this reversed amide series could be through simple amination of the common chlorotriazolopyrazine intermediate, which both Alice (e.g. here) and Chase are interested in. Chase also suggested azide displacement of Cl followed by reduction to the amine.
The AZ Idea: A group of young scientists at AstraZeneca that includes former OSM-er Matt Tarnowski recently suggested a cyclic analog shown below, and our young contributor Mandrake also suggested some ideas around that molecule. Some cyclic groups have indeed been investigated in this position generally with low potencies - see the summary below. The group joining the side chain to the TP ring (red arrow) can’t be divalent oxygen; we know simple amine linkers are poor choices (e.g. OSM-S-190), yet amines have typically been the attachment point for rings (see below figure). Carbon linkers have occasionally been OK (e.g. MMV 669304, MMV670243). Perhaps a more polar cyclic group at this position would be OK with a carbon-based linker provided the northwest ring is positioned well. Metabolic clearance of carbon-linked compound MMV669304 was atrocious (MMV669304 below), while the related cyclic amine linked MMV668957 was much better (yet much less potent).
The Hypotheticals
Crazy Hemiacetal: Hemiacetals and hemianimals were suggested in the last analog analysis round. They are expected to be too labile, even though acetals themselves can be OK. While exhibiting a blocking group and good predicted hydrophobicity, this compound is probably too risky.
Other Linkers: Some of the SAR data suggests the linker between pyridine and Ar ring in the Northwest doesn’t really matter, leading to suggestions of ketone, sulfoxide and sulfone linkers from Chris and a urea suggested by Chase. We could also investigate a triazole linker (using an alkyne on the pyrazine to avoid a nitrogen-based linker atom on the ring) and an alpha-trifluoromethyl amine as an amide isostere, originally suggested by Chris Burns.
The Tianyi: Rationale for this molecule is that the imidazopyrazine MMV669846 retained potency (vs parent MMV639565) with only a slight deterioration in clearance time (see below), suggesting it might be worth re-examining this compound, but with a blocking group on the imidazole (methyl shown). Named after the student who started looking at this compound, Tianyi Zheng.
Chase Scaffold Hops: suggested here. These will require development of new methods if they’re deemed to be good swaps. Any opinions?
Misc Other Points
1) Now that we have more data in the Master Sheet, I wonder if we might be able to ask you, @wvanhoorn , to re-do your analysis, prioritizing compounds with untried motifs, using data from Series 4, and with an ALogP cutoff of 3. There was also mention of results from a matched pair analysis by Jeremy Besnard - I think the structures are here. It’d be interesting to see what you get now.
2) We will shortly be engaging with the OIDD automated synthesis group, and that some of the above synthesis could be part of that collaboration if, for example, a range of reaction conditions need to be screened or a number of analogs need to be generated. #341
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Deadline
Next shipment of compounds to Syngene: December 15th.
(cheminformatic strings for all molecules mentioned in this post are over on the OSM ELN here)