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Compounds sent for testing in Dundee, December 2017 #10

Open david1597 opened 6 years ago

david1597 commented 6 years ago

The final batch of compounds for 2017 have been shipped to Dundee for testing, including:

decdundee

mcoster commented 6 years ago

Nice work @david1597 - I particularly like the late-stage functionalisation compounds. We recently ordered a bunch of the sulfinate reagents in for a different project, and I was going to get someone to try that chemistry on some OSM compounds - looks like you've already gone down that path and it works! :) Out of interest, did you see any products of reaction at other positions?

david1597 commented 6 years ago

Yep we're keen to see how these all turn out, @mcoster. All those late stage functionalisation compounds were the work of @ConorGraham in his Honours project over the last year. He didn't see any products from reaction at the other positions. It's interesting yep! That sulfonamide above is from @maratsydney series. I'm also considering installing it in place of the phenol in the Pfizer biosynthesis compound.

mattodd commented 6 years ago

Yes, sorry about the work from @ConorGraham not being public domain yet - the application of methods to OSM compounds evolved during the year from what is otherwise a closed project. He's just finishing up Hons, but then we'll get all the relevant lab book entries public domain and summarise some things.

mcoster commented 6 years ago

@david1597 - a sulfonamide in place of the phenol in the biosynthesis series sounds like a great idea. If it's successful, you can also easily acylate sulfonamides and the product N-acylsulfonamides would be also be an interesting bioisostere.

david1597 commented 6 years ago

EDIT: This comment contains incorrect data. A couple of the compounds have the wrong MMV number written below them, and the data from the two runs is incorrect in some instances. I'm leaving this comment with the incorrect figure so that the comments from others immediately below make sense and correspond to something. Scroll down to the Jan 11th 2018 comment from myself for the correct data

Results are in. There are a couple of issues... 1) The potency of the synthesised 'Pfizer phenol' is not as expected. The results from the biosynthesis had indicated this to be single digit nM, we've got a result of over 4 uM here. This needs to be investigated asap when I return in January, starting with checking the spectra against that obtained from the biosynthesis (we need to obtain these first). Obviously, this is is the basis of many of our current efforts. 2) Some of the repeated runs aren't in agreement. Both values are shown in these cases, and with a *. Will investigate this too when everyone returns.

Merry Christmas everyone! Here's to a happy, healthy, and successful 2018!

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MFernflower commented 6 years ago

the fact that MMV1577581 comes back as mildly potent makes we wonder if we should consider making and screening the acetoxy and methoxy derivatives of this compound?

drc007 commented 6 years ago

Hi,

There are two structures numbered

MMV1577581

One on top row, the other on the bottom.

Chris

On 23 Dec 2017, at 08:27, David Smith notifications@github.com wrote:

Results are in. There are a couple of issues... 1) The potency of the synthesised 'Pfizer phenol' is not as expected. The results from the biosynthesis had indicated this to be single digit nM, we've got a result of over 4 uM here. This needs to be investigated asap when I return in January, starting with checking the spectra against that obtained from the biosynthesis (we need to obtain these first). Obviously, this is is the basis of many of our current efforts. 2) Some of the repeated runs aren't in agreement. Both values are shown in these cases, and with a *. Will investigate this too when everyone returns.

Merry Christmas everyone! Here's to a happy, healthy, and successful 2018!

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edwintse commented 6 years ago

@drc007 Thanks for pointing that out. The top row compound has the correct MMV number. The bottom row compound should be MMV1577580

edwintse commented 6 years ago

@MFernflower The methoxy derivative has been tested before (MMV688897) and is inactive at >10 uM. Not sure the acetoxy is worth pursuing though.

drc007 commented 6 years ago

I’m not sure how stable the acetoxy would be, very susceptible to hydrolysis.

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@MFernflower https://github.com/mfernflower The methoxy derivative has been tested before (MMV688897) and is inactive at >10 uM. Not sure the acetoxy is worth pursuing though.

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MFernflower commented 6 years ago

Would it be possible to couple MMV1577580 to some N,N-Dimethylsulfamoyl chloride ? sulfamates show interesting hydrogen bonding properties (mainly receptors but weak donors - also extremely flexible molecules) @edwintse / @mattodd / @david1597 update 12/26/17: sulfamates are also pretty much impervious to CYP enzymes - case in point being topamax's 20 hour half life!!!! sulfamate

"even though it's the holidays I can't help thinking about it" - It's totally fine, I think about chemistry everyday

Edit: it seems like the hydroxy compound is useless - please disregard my idea

mattodd commented 6 years ago

Merry Christmas everyone. Just on MMV1557865 (even though it's the holidays I can't help thinking about it) - the disconnect between the compound arising from the Pfizer work and the chemical resynthesis is the top priority for early Jan, when we resume. It's too early to abandon this since we need to check what we had in both cases, meaning we need to compare the NMR spectra and any other data to confirm identities. Along that general line I like the look of MMV1577574, with the H-bond donor in the same general position, but one Ar ring fewer.

edwintse commented 6 years ago

UPDATE: Hi everyone, it appears that there's been a mix up with a few of the MMV numbers and associated potency data. (You'll notice that there are two MMV1577574's. The first should in fact be MMV1577573.) As a result the potency data for 573 to 581 are not for the respective compounds. The remaining compounds are ok. Everything should be resolved in early January. We'll post again when everything is fixed.

cdsouthan commented 6 years ago

To err is human and no probs of course. But JFTR did you prepare the shipment on your own rather than arranging for two of you to cross-check each other?

edwintse commented 6 years ago

Previously I have done the shipments but for this last batch I was already away on holiday with limited internet access so David organised the shipping. The registration of the compounds was fine. There was just a mix up with the spreadsheet that was sent to Dundee. We will cross-check for future shipments.

david1597 commented 6 years ago

Corrected potency results for the first run of these compounds is here:

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MFernflower commented 6 years ago

Is it possible that some of the Pfizer phenol compound oxidized to the carboxylic acid - thus explaining the differences in potency between runs? @david1597 @mattodd

david1597 commented 6 years ago

The second run of data has finally come through from the December shipment. Averaged potencies are indicated below.

The data have:

dundee december results

There are still some remaining action points:

Edited remaining action points

david1597 commented 6 years ago

The first and third bullet points in the previous post have been addressed. For completeness, here are the final potency results with corrected structures for this batch along with a table of individual values. The Pfizer phenol (OSM-S-412) point still needs to be addressed and I need a little help from the MMV data specialist to edit this. Once done this issue will be closed.

dundee december results

MMV number OSM number Internal number Potency 1 Potency 2 Potency 3 Potency 4   Average
MMV1577580 OSM-S-328 EGT 292-1 (f11) >10 >10        
MMV897698 OSM-S-369 EGT 92-1/CG 81-1 0.248 0.354       0.301
MMV1557865 OSM-S-412              
MMV1577573 OSM-S-433 EGT 286-1 1.297 0.859       1.078
MMV1577581 OSM-S-442 EGT 295-1 3.872 2.197       3.0345
MMV1577574 OSM-S-497 EGT 281-2 >10 >10        
MMV1577575 OSM-S-498 EGT 282-1 >10 >10        
MMV1577576 OSM-S-499 EGT 283-1 >10 >10        
MMV1577577 OSM-S-500 EGT 284-2 >10 >10        
MMV1577578 OSM-S-501 EGT 290-1 >10 >10        
MMV1577579 OSM-S-502 EGT 292-1 (f1-8) 7.95 4.282 >10 1.191 8.723 5.5365
MMV1577514 OSM-S-503 CG74-1 >10 >10        
MMV1577566 OSM-S-504 CG82-5 >10 >10        
MMV1577567 OSM-S-505 CG86-1 >10 >10        
MMV1577569 OSM-S-506 MK029-1 >10 >10        
MMV1577570 OSM-S-507 MK019-1 >10 >10        
MMV1577571 OSM-S-508 MK028-1 >10 >10        
MMV1577572 OSM-S-509 MK023-1 >10 >10        
MMV1577568 OSM-S-510 MK027-1 >10 >10