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Can we Predict Active Compounds in OSM Series 4?
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Final Preparations for Paper Submission #28

Open mattodd opened 4 years ago

mattodd commented 4 years ago

Hi all. I hope everyone's well. An update on the paper (this issue closes #26).

The current draft is here, along with all the other files. We've incorporated some email comments from people who are not regularly on Github, which has been useful.

We're just waiting on a couple of things that lockdown interrupted:

1) Validation of the potency of the final four active compounds. They've been measured in duplicate in Dundee, but Dundee's (perfectly reasonable) policy is that published potencies should be measured in triplicate. Completing this should be quick after lockdown.

2) Confirmation that the more recent compounds in the paper share the same phenotype, i.e. that they are all still active in the ion regulation (PfATP4) assay. I'm 95% sure we've not scaffold hopped, but it's a loose end. This means shipping compounds to Adele and Kiaran in Canberra, and the temporary snafu is that the compounds are currently locked away in our shutdown UCL lab. We'll get them out as soon as we can.

For both these final measurements we have stocks of the compounds, which is a positive, and both relevant assays are up and running.

In the meantime we can get the paper ready to submit. This current draft is looking very nice (don't worry about the reference list - @edwintse is going to format that last thing). I need people to have a read and suggest any changes they'd like. Ultimately everyone will need to give the green light to submission, and that can be given now if you want. We're going to target Nature Comms since there's a lot of unusual work here.

The SI is also here, and it would help if people could also quickly verify their contribution to this document.

I also need people to check (at end of paper):

1) Competing interests (we currently have none) 2) Manuscript contributions (we've made a decent guess) 3) Any additional funding that needs to be declared (specific to the project, rather than e.g. core company funding) 4) Any co-authors we may have missed (this is super important, and it's easy to make a minor mistake when there are lots of authors)

Suggestions for referees for the paper would be very useful too.

@jonjoncardoso @spadavec @wvanhoorn @btatsis @BenedictIrwin @gcincilla @holeung @alintheopen @IamDavyG @sladem-tox @luiraym @murrayfold

mattodd commented 4 years ago

Potential new paper to cite if we want to highlight the importance of human-AI collaboration. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jmedchem.0c00163

BenedictIrwin commented 4 years ago

The manuscript looks great, thank you for preparing this. Under competing interests I would normally write "BWJI is an employee of Optibrium Ltd." just to make it absolutely clear, but it's not necessarily a competing interest in this case. I will check with other authors linked to our entry who may not see this post.

adw62 commented 4 years ago

This looks good, awesome work. I have no competing interests and would add my funding as 'ADW would like to acknowledge the EPSRC Centre for Doctoral Training in Computational Methods for Materials Science for funding under grant number EP/L015552/1'

gcincilla commented 4 years ago

Well done guys! Thanks for pushing this forward. The manuscripts it's very nice and it reads fluently. Targeting Nature Comms is certainly a challenge, but if they can appreciate the innovation represented by the OSM modus operandi, it can be accepted smoothly.

There are no competing interests or additional funding that needs to be declared from my side.

A part from this I realized that in my models description in tables 1 and 2 I don’t mention which descriptors I used, as other entrants did. So, if it’s still possible, I would like to include such information, modifying the my models description in the following way:

@mattodd, is this still possible?

Reference for CDK (if applicable) is: Steinbeck et al. The Chemistry Development Kit (CDK): An Open-Source Java Library for Chemo- and Bioinformatics. J. Chem. Inf. Comput. Sci. 2003 Mar-Apr; 43(2):493-500, doi:10.1021/ci025584y

Finally, is the Supplementary Information section accessible?

edwintse commented 4 years ago

@gcincilla Of course! We'll make the additions. Are you not able to see the SI file from the link above?

gcincilla commented 4 years ago

Perfect @edwintse. Thank you also for pointing me at the SI file, I misread the original message.

murraynrobertson commented 4 years ago

It reads very well. Great job pulling all this together

Funding addition for me

"MNR would like to acknowledge the EPSRC Future Continuous Manufacturing and Advanced Crystallisation (CMAC) Research Hub (Grant No. EP/L015552/1)"

spadavec commented 4 years ago

Hello @edwintse

We have no funding notes to add. However we noticed that our entire model description is in the table of contents of the SI--is that by design?

edwintse commented 4 years ago

@spadavec Oh, that's not intentional so thanks for pointing that out! Your model description had the Heading style so it was picked up by the ToC generator. I'll fix it up.

BenedictIrwin commented 4 years ago

I have collected the following suggestions via email:

Under competing interests (if we are including all company affiliations): MÖ is an employee of Optibrium Ltd. BWJI is an employee of Optibrium Ltd. TMW is an employee of Intellegens Ltd. GJC is a Director and employee of Intellegens Ltd.

Under funding: GJC acknowledges financial support from the Royal Society

After a bit of email discussion with the Intellegens/Optibrium group there are a few more small edits to the SI section if possible:

1) The SI title "Optibrium’s Model" -> "Optibrium/Intellegen’s Model" or similar for consistency with the table in the main text.


2) Inclusion of the following recent citations in the SI section, with the opening line being changed to:

"Machine learning was performed by the Alchemite tool (developed by Intellegens and available through Optibrium) [1,2,3] ..."

[1] Practical Applications of Deep Learning to Impute Heterogeneous Drug Discovery Data B.W.J. Irwin, J. Levell, T.M. Whitehead, M.D. Segall & G.J. Conduit J. Chem. Inf. Model., 2020, 60, 6, 2848–2857

[2] Imputation versus prediction: applications in machine learning for drug discovery B.W.J. Irwin, S. Mahmoud, T.M. Whitehead, G.J. Conduit & M.D. Segall Future Drug Discovery 2 (2020)

[3] Imputation of Assay Bioactivity Data using Deep Learning T.M. Whitehead, B.W.J. Irwin, P.A. Hunt, M.D. Segall & G.J. Conduit J. Chem. Inf. Model., 59, 1197 (2019)

They were also keen to include the reference(s) in the main text table if possible otherwise it won't be clear what "deep imputation" refers to, as it's a bit of a custom/novel method.


3) End of second paragraph:

"compounds tested in are easily modelled"

change to

"compounds tested in those labs are more easily modelled"


4) Start of third paragraph:

"Alchemite produced accurate error bars for both training and test results."

changes to

"Alchemite specializes in estimating error bars and produced these for both training and test results."

Sorry for these changes at a late stage. Thanks!

wvanhoorn commented 4 years ago

Is there mileage in adding the OrcID of authors who have one (yes I do have one, never used since I don't publish much)

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 12:14, Benedict Irwin notifications@github.com wrote:

I have collected the following suggestions via email:

Under competing interests (if we are including all company affiliations): MÖ is an employee of Optibrium Ltd. BWJI is an employee of Optibrium Ltd. TMW is an employee of Intellegens Ltd. GJC is a Director and employee of Intellegens Ltd.

Under funding: GJC acknowledges financial support from the Royal Society

After a bit of email discussion with the Intellegens/Optibrium group there are a few more small edits to the SI section if possible:

  1. The SI title "Optibrium’s Model" -> "Optibrium/Intellegen’s Model" or similar for consistency with the table in the main text.

  1. Inclusion of the following recent citations in the SI section, with the opening line being changed to:

"Machine learning was performed by the Alchemite tool (developed by Intellegens and available through Optibrium) [1,2,3] ..."

[1] Practical Applications of Deep Learning to Impute Heterogeneous Drug Discovery Data B.W.J. Irwin, J. Levell, T.M. Whitehead, M.D. Segall & G.J. Conduit J. Chem. Inf. Model., 2020, 60, 6, 2848–2857

[2] Imputation versus prediction: applications in machine learning for drug discovery B.W.J. Irwin, S. Mahmoud, T.M. Whitehead, G.J. Conduit & M.D. Segall Future Drug Discovery 2 (2020)

[3] Imputation of Assay Bioactivity Data using Deep Learning T.M. Whitehead, B.W.J. Irwin, P.A. Hunt, M.D. Segall & G.J. Conduit J. Chem. Inf. Model., 59, 1197 (2019)

They were also keen to include the reference(s) in the main text table if possible otherwise it won't be clear what "deep imputation" refers to, as it's a bit of a custom/novel method.

  1. End of second paragraph:

"compounds tested in are easily modelled"

change to

"compounds tested in those labs are more easily modelled"

  1. Start of third paragraph:

"Alchemite produced accurate error bars for both training and test results."

changes to

"Alchemite specializes in estimating error bars and produced these for both training and test results."

Sorry for these changes at a late stage. Thanks!

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Laksh1997 commented 4 years ago

Hi all, thanks @mattodd and @edwintse for spearheading this once again!

@btatsis (Bill Tatsis, my colleague) would like to add some words about our process for the design process. As for funding, nothing from Exscientia's side.

edwintse commented 3 years ago

Quick update on the 2 main points from above:

  1. Dundee is back up and running. They've asked for fresh samples to be sent to complete the triplicate testing. We're just waiting on confirmation to send them.

  2. The compounds were shipped today to ANU for testing in the PfATP4 assay.

Also, since we have the chance to, I've included in these shipments the extra compound I made before closedown (Exscientia 1b from #22) so we should have an extra data point for the paper.

I'll update again once we've gotten the results back. Hopefully not too long now!

sladem-tox commented 3 years ago

Hi all, I would like to echo this thanks to @mattoddhttps://github.com/mattodd and @edwintsehttps://github.com/edwintse. I read over the paper again on the weekend to see if I could help in the flow or anything like that but I’d have to say I really like the style you have brought to the paper and it makes for really good reading!! Well done to you both! Best wishes, Slade

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Hi all, thanks @mattoddhttps://github.com/mattodd and @edwintsehttps://github.com/edwintse for spearheading this once again!

@btatsishttps://github.com/btatsis (Bill Tatsis, my colleague) would like to add some words about our process for the design process. As for funding, nothing from Exscientia's side.

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edwintse commented 3 years ago

Hi @btatsis, @Laksh1997 mentioned you wanted to add something to the paper about your design process? Did you have something in mind?

btatsis commented 3 years ago

Hi @edwintse ,

I would like also to contribute to the article about the design process, if that would be ok :)

Best, Bill

edwintse commented 3 years ago

@btatsis Yes, let me know what you'd like to add. Also, I just noticed that you've not been added to the author list. How would you like your name to appear? Is Bill Tatsis fine?

btatsis commented 3 years ago

I would prefer the official name Vasileios A. Tatsis

gcincilla commented 3 years ago

Hi everybody. Is there any news about the paper? Is it still under referees revision? Thanks in advance

edwintse commented 3 years ago

Hi @gcincilla, sorry for the radio silence on where this is at. We just need to finalise the last of the reviewers comments so we can submit the corrected version. We're hoping to get it done asap.