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Monthly Mycetoma Meeting 26st September 2023 #12

Open wwjvdsande opened 1 year ago

wwjvdsande commented 1 year ago

Time: Sept 26th (12 noon UK, 1pm EU, 9pm Aus) Timezones.

The Outlook invite can be found here

Location: https://uni-sydney.zoom.us/j/99281549497. In case of failure, use https://ucl.zoom.us/j/99789829423 and in case of double failure use MycetOS meeting teams link Chair: ErasmusMC Minute taker: USyd Previous meeting: (https://youtu.be/wzbRzA6anBQ) Recording: here Present: Apologies: @fantasy121 @MA-Jjingyi

AGENDA

Series 1 - Fenarimols

Final Molecules/SAR Gaps

@fantasy121 completed the selection of Epichem molecules, and the next step is to get them to Wendy.

@fantasy121 shared the list of compounds that have been shipped from Sydney to ErasmusMC.

Paper:

Currently there is a mismatch in numbers of analogues between the SI excel file and the the manuscript.

MYOS codes to be used for the compounds, to maintain the link between compounds in the paper and compounds in the live project. The codes needed are just the initial integers, not the batch/salt codes etc. Can also remove zeroes for readability, so e.g. MYOS7.

Siderophores:

New transcriptomic data from @wwjvdsande in the galleria grain model showed that siderophores are produced (https://github.com/OpenSourceMycetoma/What-other-molecules-to-screen/issues/10). These siderophores might be used as a trojan horse to get molecules into the grain. Could we couple fenarimols to fungal-relevant siderophores may be to get them in? The idea of the siderophores was of interest and all partners agreed to consider whether this could be done at the different sites. There is also potential relevance to other series.

Series 2 - Aminothiazoles

@KlementineJBS is the corresponding researcher for this project at USyd. @KlementineJBS has updated the Wiki with the compounds successfully synthesised by USyd in June.

Molecules made by UCL MSc cohort (23 entries) have been shipped to Erasmus MC for testing. Same applies for selected Whitgift compound (MYOS_0590_00_01).

UCL Masters student cohort began in late May and has now (late July) finished their synthetic work.

Series 5 - Benzimidazoles

The related oxazoles: Good potencies observed for recent compound batches (e.g. here). These resemble the benzimidazoles which have shown potent in vivo efficacy. Some oxazoles will be tested against Falciformispora senegalensis too. This series will be evaluated in vivo in the new larval season.

Series 6: ketoximes

Latest compound shipment here, to be tested by @MA-Jjingyi. TO BE UPDATED

@bebi78 suggested evaluating different salts of the ketoximes.

Series 3: Tricyclics/Phenothiazines

Misc updates:

DMPK measurements by Dundee. Compound selection took place in #8. No updates yet.

Compounds are being shipped from NEU to Erasmus MC: https://github.com/OpenSourceMycetoma/Series-3-Phenothiazines/issues/6#issuecomment-1716760729

MMV Global Health Priority Box screened against Madurella mycetomatis and Falciformispora senegalensis. Led to the identification of promising hits MMV1593278, MMV1804559 and MMV020335.

Kinase inhibitor library. The updated KCGS library was ordered on 1st of May. It has arrived in Erasmus MC. Bio-informatical analyses have been carried out by Mickey. @bebi78 can send some 10 targets. Mickey screened this last week for the first time, repeat is scheduled for this week.

Bioinformatics: Waleed requested information on which aspect of bioinformatics should be prioritised to work on first. @wwjvdsande corresponded offline with him. This will include a Phylogenetic tree to work out relationships of various species were identified as high priorities so that we can search the literature for closely related species to Mycetoma, and for the potential structures of the drug target, which would enable us to simulate our data/estimation/computational models. In the May meeting @TariqAyub attended from the Qasim group who will advise on what can be done in terms of future contributions. TO BE UPDATED

In the last meeting @MA-Jjingyi presented toxicity studies results from the latest compound screening performed at Erasmus MC

Molecules which have shown good performance and selected for further in vivo evalutation (in late summer 2023) include:

In the in vivo stage, most compounds will be tested against both M.mycetomatis and F.senegalensis strains.

Next Meeting

October 24 31 2023: chair: UCL; minute taker: ErasmusMC

MA-Jjingyi commented 1 year ago

26092023 MyctOS meeting -MA.pptx Hi all, the update of in vivo data shows in this slide. please check. please leave messages if you have any question. by the way, due to my holiday, I would not attend September and October monthly meeting.

Note from @mattodd - not clear if these data have been incorporated into Master List.

fantasy121 commented 1 year ago

Hi all, I'll be an apology for tonight.

Just a brief update from me. I am half way through updating the manuscript and aim to complete this by end of this week.

mattodd commented 1 year ago

For those joining late, we're in the UCL meeting link.

KlementineJBS commented 1 year ago

I'll pop some minutes up later this week when I've had a chance to edit them into something more coherent.

For now, just a link to the issue with the Schools meeting on Thursday and a reminder of the details:

Time: Sep 28, 2023 07:00 PM Sydney (10:00 AM London)

Meeting ID: 852 2722 1625

https://uni-sydney.zoom.us/j/85227221625

MFernflower commented 1 year ago

(repost because I didn't have the image of the structures and I messed up the previous post)

@KlementineJBS I don't think I will be there for breaking good meeting but I had messaged @JuliaSarju about possibly having a one or two students from the school groups to make the pair of S3 phenothiazines that I think that would complement the NEU tricyclic library well

phenothiazine_pair

dmitrij176 commented 1 year ago

@wwjvdsande further to our conversation during last MycetOS meeting, is there any buffer solution that you would recommend for ketoxime stability testing? Experiment objective is to model buffer environment used for in vitro tests. Maybe few common buffers which are the golden standard for these assays?

MFernflower commented 1 year ago

Phosphate buffered saline is a common one in biochemistry @dmitrij176

Message ID: <OpenSourceMycetoma/Monthly-zoom-meetings/issues/12/1742181149 @github.com>

dmitrij176 commented 1 year ago

Phosphate buffered saline is a common one in biochemistry @dmitrij176

Message ID: <OpenSourceMycetoma/Monthly-zoom-meetings/issues/12/1742181149 @github.com>

I know. But it's not the one used for MycetOS in vitro assays...

mattodd commented 1 year ago

Epichem compound update, with respect to last correspondence on this at https://github.com/OpenSourceMycetoma/Monthly-zoom-meetings/issues/10#issuecomment-1672913606

Jason Chaplin at Epichem has very kindly communicated (to Mat by email) the status of the various compounds below. The complication here is that Epichem is in a period of transition, so finding and shipping compounds will be a big challenge. He's hoping that for the TCGLS compounds below @dosreic or Eric Chatelain from DNDi might be able to chase. He will monitor the situation for the handful of Epichem compounds in case he can secure the samples and ship. I'll maintain contact. He also suggested a bit of QC, given that the samples are 10 years old, though they apparently "still look like nice powders though".

Maintain this action on @mattodd re final SAR gap shipment.

SCYX0001335912 EPL-BS0197 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001322027 EPL-BS0158 Vial not found likely in other boxes requiring further investigation SCYX0001574838 EPL-BS0792 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001338488 EPL-BS0216 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001336037 EPL-BS0213 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001388141 EPL-BS0241 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001294212 EPL-BS0121 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001278548 EPL-BS0105 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001315839 EPL-BS0143 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001255546 EPL-BS0039 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001268121 EPL-BS0093 Sample consumed No stock remaining

KlementineJBS commented 1 year ago

Minutes

Please make edit any inaccuracies - and apologies for any misspelled names!

As a document: Mycetoma meeting minutes 26-09-23.docx

Relevant files: 26092023 MyctOS meeting -MA.pptx

Chair: ErasmusMC Minute taker: USyd Previous meeting: (https://youtu.be/wzbRzA6anBQ) Recording: here Present: @mattodd @MFernflower @wwjvdsande @dmitrij176 @KlementineJBS, Lori Ferrins, Marai, Bernhard Apologies: @fantasy121 @MA-Jjingyi

Results of larvae testing – presented by Wendy

Desired results are low toxicity to larvae and increased survival (i.e. prolonged survival of larvqe). Have be able to test: • 3 compounds of Series 2: Aminothiazoles (MYOS421, MYOS425, MYOS426) • 3 compounds of Series 5: benzimidazoles (MYOS326, MYOS333, MYOS334) • 4 compounds of Nature Products (MYOS456 – MYOS459) • 3 compounds of MMV Global Health Priority Box (MMV14593278, MMV020335, MMV1804559)

Series 2 compounds were not toxic to larvae but did not prolong larvae survival.

Series 3 compounds were toxic to larvae at a 20 uM dose but not at a 10 uM dose. MYOS333 and MYOS334 prolonged larvae survival (p=0.0487 and p=0.0431 respectively). None of them prolonged survival in F. s

Nature Products compounds were not toxic to larvae but did not prolong larvae survival.

MMV1804559 was toxic in larvae at 20µM, but not at 10µM. MMV1804559 prolonged MM55-infected larvae survival (P = 0.0313). Combination treatment of MMV1804559 and ITZ prolonged MM55-infected larvae survival (P = 0.0465).

Discussion

Series 1 fenarimols.

No update on protein modelling – the people involved have not made contact.

Almost all issues have been resolved with the paper except references. It’s currently with Hung but Dmitrij will email him to get an update.

Siderophores.

It’s possible that that compounds with good in vitro performance will not work in vivo. Wendy has been in contact with Sean Doyle, who has a fluorescent labelled siderophore. This will be tested in the last few weeks of larvae season.

Wendy’s new intern, Marai, will be testing compounds for a few months, untilthe end of January.

Discussion

Series 3.

Mickey is screening kinase inhibitors. Has had to use a higher concentration for some of them to identify hits. Results are mostly disappointing.

Never heard back from Waleed about bioinformatics.

Discussion

dosreic commented 1 year ago

Hi everyone, yes, I have just confirmed, we can ship these 5 compounds from TCG to Wendy. How much should we send? And Wendy, can you confirm your address and if I can proceed with it?

Best wishes, Luiza

Luiza Cruz, PhD I Drug Discovery Coordinator Drugs for Neglected Diseases initiative (DNDi) Rua São José 70 – Sala 601 - Centro | ZIP 20010020 Rio de Janeiro | Brazil

MFernflower commented 1 year ago

@dosreic 5 to 10 milligrams of product can be sent

wwjvdsande commented 1 year ago

@OpenSourceMycetoma/corecontrib the next MycetOS meeting is scheduled next week. ErasmusMC is minute taker. However both Ma and I are abroad and not able to join. Can either some-one else be minute taker or can we move it to 31 oktober?

KlementineJBS commented 1 year ago

@OpenSourceMycetoma/corecontrib the next MycetOS meeting is scheduled next week. ErasmusMC is minute taker. However both Ma and I are abroad and not able to join. Can either some-one else be minute taker or can we move it to 31 oktober?

I'm happy to take minutes, but if you and/or Ma would prefer to move it to the 31st that's fine by me too.

mattodd commented 1 year ago

I vote move to Oct 31st - slightly better for me too.

bebi78 commented 1 year ago

Oct 31 also OK for me.

dosreic commented 1 year ago

Hi everyone, just want to follow up on this. I need the quantity and address to send the compounds to Wendy.

Cheers, Luiza

Luiza Cruz, PhD I Drug Discovery Coordinator Drugs for Neglected Diseases initiative (DNDi) Rua São José 70 – Sala 601 - Centro | ZIP 20010020 Rio de Janeiro | Brazil M: +55 37 999072470 | @.**@.> dndi.org

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Hi everyone, yes, I have just confirmed, we can ship these 5 compounds from TCG to Wendy. How much should we send? And Wendy, can you confirm your address and if I can proceed with it?

Best wishes, Luiza

Luiza Cruz, PhD I Drug Discovery Coordinator Drugs for Neglected Diseases initiative (DNDi) Rua São José 70 – Sala 601 - Centro | ZIP 20010020 Rio de Janeiro | Brazil M: +55 37 999072470 | @.**@.> dndi.org

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Epichem compound update, with respect to last correspondence on this at #10 (comment)https://github.com/OpenSourceMycetoma/Monthly-zoom-meetings/issues/10#issuecomment-1672913606

Jason Chaplin at Epichem has very kindly communicated (to Mat by email) the status of the various compounds below. The complication here is that Epichem is in a period of transition, so finding and shipping compounds will be a big challenge. He's hoping that for the TCGLS compounds below @dosreichttps://github.com/dosreic or Eric Chatelain from DNDi might be able to chase. He will monitor the situation for the handful of Epichem compounds in case he can secure the samples and ship. I'll maintain contact. He also suggested a bit of QC, given that the samples are 10 years old, though they apparently "still look like nice powders though".

Maintain this action on @mattoddhttps://github.com/mattodd re final SAR gap shipment.

SCYX0001335912 EPL-BS0197 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001322027 EPL-BS0158 Vial not found likely in other boxes requiring further investigation SCYX0001574838 EPL-BS0792 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001338488 EPL-BS0216 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001336037 EPL-BS0213 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001388141 EPL-BS0241 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001294212 EPL-BS0121 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001278548 EPL-BS0105 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001315839 EPL-BS0143 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001255546 EPL-BS0039 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001268121 EPL-BS0093 Sample consumed No stock remaining

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wwjvdsande commented 1 year ago

@dosreic we usually need 1-2 mg for the initialen in vitro screenings. For the larvae work 5 mg is recommended

dosreic commented 1 year ago

Ok, some of these compounds we don’t have a lot of quantity, but I will send everything to you. Can you please confirm your address and contact details?

Best, Luiza

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wwjvdsande commented 12 months ago

@OpenSourceMycetoma/corecontrib @marijschippers screened these: SCYX0001335912 EPL-BS0197 Shipped to TCG for DNDi --> not inhibited at 100 uM SCYX0001574838 EPL-BS0792 Shipped to TCG for DNDi --> not inhibited at 100 uM SCYX0001338488 EPL-BS0216 Shipped to TCG for DNDi --> inhibited at 100 and 25 uM SCYX0001336037 EPL-BS0213 Shipped to TCG for DNDi --> inhibited at 100 and 25 uM SCYX0001388141 EPL-BS0241 Shipped to TCG for DNDi --> inhibited at 100 and 25 uM

But I don't think they are in the spreadsheet with MYOS-codes, Can somebody get them codes?

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