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26092023 MyctOS meeting -MA.pptx Hi all, the update of in vivo data shows in this slide. please check. please leave messages if you have any question. by the way, due to my holiday, I would not attend September and October monthly meeting.
Note from @mattodd - not clear if these data have been incorporated into Master List.
Hi all, I'll be an apology for tonight.
Just a brief update from me. I am half way through updating the manuscript and aim to complete this by end of this week.
For those joining late, we're in the UCL meeting link.
I'll pop some minutes up later this week when I've had a chance to edit them into something more coherent.
For now, just a link to the issue with the Schools meeting on Thursday and a reminder of the details:
Time: Sep 28, 2023 07:00 PM Sydney (10:00 AM London)
Meeting ID: 852 2722 1625
(repost because I didn't have the image of the structures and I messed up the previous post)
@KlementineJBS I don't think I will be there for breaking good meeting but I had messaged @JuliaSarju about possibly having a one or two students from the school groups to make the pair of S3 phenothiazines that I think that would complement the NEU tricyclic library well
@wwjvdsande further to our conversation during last MycetOS meeting, is there any buffer solution that you would recommend for ketoxime stability testing? Experiment objective is to model buffer environment used for in vitro tests. Maybe few common buffers which are the golden standard for these assays?
Phosphate buffered saline is a common one in biochemistry @dmitrij176
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Phosphate buffered saline is a common one in biochemistry @dmitrij176
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I know. But it's not the one used for MycetOS in vitro assays...
Epichem compound update, with respect to last correspondence on this at https://github.com/OpenSourceMycetoma/Monthly-zoom-meetings/issues/10#issuecomment-1672913606
Jason Chaplin at Epichem has very kindly communicated (to Mat by email) the status of the various compounds below. The complication here is that Epichem is in a period of transition, so finding and shipping compounds will be a big challenge. He's hoping that for the TCGLS compounds below @dosreic or Eric Chatelain from DNDi might be able to chase. He will monitor the situation for the handful of Epichem compounds in case he can secure the samples and ship. I'll maintain contact. He also suggested a bit of QC, given that the samples are 10 years old, though they apparently "still look like nice powders though".
Maintain this action on @mattodd re final SAR gap shipment.
SCYX0001335912 EPL-BS0197 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001322027 EPL-BS0158 Vial not found likely in other boxes requiring further investigation SCYX0001574838 EPL-BS0792 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001338488 EPL-BS0216 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001336037 EPL-BS0213 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001388141 EPL-BS0241 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001294212 EPL-BS0121 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001278548 EPL-BS0105 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001315839 EPL-BS0143 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001255546 EPL-BS0039 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001268121 EPL-BS0093 Sample consumed No stock remaining
Please make edit any inaccuracies - and apologies for any misspelled names!
As a document: Mycetoma meeting minutes 26-09-23.docx
Relevant files: 26092023 MyctOS meeting -MA.pptx
Chair: ErasmusMC Minute taker: USyd Previous meeting: (https://youtu.be/wzbRzA6anBQ) Recording: here Present: @mattodd @MFernflower @wwjvdsande @dmitrij176 @KlementineJBS, Lori Ferrins, Marai, Bernhard Apologies: @fantasy121 @MA-Jjingyi
Desired results are low toxicity to larvae and increased survival (i.e. prolonged survival of larvqe). Have be able to test: • 3 compounds of Series 2: Aminothiazoles (MYOS421, MYOS425, MYOS426) • 3 compounds of Series 5: benzimidazoles (MYOS326, MYOS333, MYOS334) • 4 compounds of Nature Products (MYOS456 – MYOS459) • 3 compounds of MMV Global Health Priority Box (MMV14593278, MMV020335, MMV1804559)
Series 2 compounds were not toxic to larvae but did not prolong larvae survival.
Series 3 compounds were toxic to larvae at a 20 uM dose but not at a 10 uM dose. MYOS333 and MYOS334 prolonged larvae survival (p=0.0487 and p=0.0431 respectively). None of them prolonged survival in F. s
Nature Products compounds were not toxic to larvae but did not prolong larvae survival.
MMV1804559 was toxic in larvae at 20µM, but not at 10µM. MMV1804559 prolonged MM55-infected larvae survival (P = 0.0313). Combination treatment of MMV1804559 and ITZ prolonged MM55-infected larvae survival (P = 0.0465).
No update on protein modelling – the people involved have not made contact.
Almost all issues have been resolved with the paper except references. It’s currently with Hung but Dmitrij will email him to get an update.
It’s possible that that compounds with good in vitro performance will not work in vivo. Wendy has been in contact with Sean Doyle, who has a fluorescent labelled siderophore. This will be tested in the last few weeks of larvae season.
Wendy’s new intern, Marai, will be testing compounds for a few months, untilthe end of January.
Mickey is screening kinase inhibitors. Has had to use a higher concentration for some of them to identify hits. Results are mostly disappointing.
Never heard back from Waleed about bioinformatics.
Hi everyone, yes, I have just confirmed, we can ship these 5 compounds from TCG to Wendy. How much should we send? And Wendy, can you confirm your address and if I can proceed with it?
Best wishes, Luiza
Luiza Cruz, PhD I Drug Discovery Coordinator Drugs for Neglected Diseases initiative (DNDi) Rua São José 70 – Sala 601 - Centro | ZIP 20010020 Rio de Janeiro | Brazil
@dosreic 5 to 10 milligrams of product can be sent
@OpenSourceMycetoma/corecontrib the next MycetOS meeting is scheduled next week. ErasmusMC is minute taker. However both Ma and I are abroad and not able to join. Can either some-one else be minute taker or can we move it to 31 oktober?
@OpenSourceMycetoma/corecontrib the next MycetOS meeting is scheduled next week. ErasmusMC is minute taker. However both Ma and I are abroad and not able to join. Can either some-one else be minute taker or can we move it to 31 oktober?
I'm happy to take minutes, but if you and/or Ma would prefer to move it to the 31st that's fine by me too.
I vote move to Oct 31st - slightly better for me too.
Oct 31 also OK for me.
Hi everyone, just want to follow up on this. I need the quantity and address to send the compounds to Wendy.
Cheers, Luiza
Luiza Cruz, PhD I Drug Discovery Coordinator Drugs for Neglected Diseases initiative (DNDi) Rua São José 70 – Sala 601 - Centro | ZIP 20010020 Rio de Janeiro | Brazil M: +55 37 999072470 | @.**@.> dndi.org
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Hi everyone, yes, I have just confirmed, we can ship these 5 compounds from TCG to Wendy. How much should we send? And Wendy, can you confirm your address and if I can proceed with it?
Best wishes, Luiza
Luiza Cruz, PhD I Drug Discovery Coordinator Drugs for Neglected Diseases initiative (DNDi) Rua São José 70 – Sala 601 - Centro | ZIP 20010020 Rio de Janeiro | Brazil M: +55 37 999072470 | @.**@.> dndi.org
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Epichem compound update, with respect to last correspondence on this at #10 (comment)https://github.com/OpenSourceMycetoma/Monthly-zoom-meetings/issues/10#issuecomment-1672913606
Jason Chaplin at Epichem has very kindly communicated (to Mat by email) the status of the various compounds below. The complication here is that Epichem is in a period of transition, so finding and shipping compounds will be a big challenge. He's hoping that for the TCGLS compounds below @dosreichttps://github.com/dosreic or Eric Chatelain from DNDi might be able to chase. He will monitor the situation for the handful of Epichem compounds in case he can secure the samples and ship. I'll maintain contact. He also suggested a bit of QC, given that the samples are 10 years old, though they apparently "still look like nice powders though".
Maintain this action on @mattoddhttps://github.com/mattodd re final SAR gap shipment.
SCYX0001335912 EPL-BS0197 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001322027 EPL-BS0158 Vial not found likely in other boxes requiring further investigation SCYX0001574838 EPL-BS0792 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001338488 EPL-BS0216 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001336037 EPL-BS0213 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001388141 EPL-BS0241 Shipped to TCG for DNDi SCYX0001294212 EPL-BS0121 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001278548 EPL-BS0105 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001315839 EPL-BS0143 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001255546 EPL-BS0039 Sample at Epichem SCYX0001268121 EPL-BS0093 Sample consumed No stock remaining
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@dosreic we usually need 1-2 mg for the initialen in vitro screenings. For the larvae work 5 mg is recommended
Ok, some of these compounds we don’t have a lot of quantity, but I will send everything to you. Can you please confirm your address and contact details?
Best, Luiza
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@dosreichttps://github.com/dosreic we usually need 1-2 mg for the initialen in vitro screenings. For the larvae work 5 mg is recommended
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@OpenSourceMycetoma/corecontrib @marijschippers screened these: SCYX0001335912 EPL-BS0197 Shipped to TCG for DNDi --> not inhibited at 100 uM SCYX0001574838 EPL-BS0792 Shipped to TCG for DNDi --> not inhibited at 100 uM SCYX0001338488 EPL-BS0216 Shipped to TCG for DNDi --> inhibited at 100 and 25 uM SCYX0001336037 EPL-BS0213 Shipped to TCG for DNDi --> inhibited at 100 and 25 uM SCYX0001388141 EPL-BS0241 Shipped to TCG for DNDi --> inhibited at 100 and 25 uM
But I don't think they are in the spreadsheet with MYOS-codes, Can somebody get them codes?
@mattodd has added this to Nov meetings, so hiding this comment
Time: Sept 26th (12 noon UK, 1pm EU, 9pm Aus) Timezones.
The Outlook invite can be found here
Location: https://uni-sydney.zoom.us/j/99281549497. In case of failure, use https://ucl.zoom.us/j/99789829423 and in case of double failure use MycetOS meeting teams link Chair: ErasmusMC Minute taker: USyd Previous meeting: (https://youtu.be/wzbRzA6anBQ) Recording: here Present: Apologies: @fantasy121 @MA-Jjingyi
AGENDA
Series 1 - Fenarimols
Final Molecules/SAR Gaps
@fantasy121 completed the selection of Epichem molecules, and the next step is to get them to Wendy.
@fantasy121 shared the list of compounds that have been shipped from Sydney to ErasmusMC.
[x] @MA-Jjingyi to evaluate these latest fenarimols and post data to the Master List, though there is a delay because of a problem at the production site for larvae. TO BE UPDATED:
[ ] @meh-cyprian to proceed to try to model fenarimol compounds in potential protein target here, or to clarify what more data are needed. Aim is to better understand the SAR via docking vs homology model of protein. TO BE UPDATED:
Paper:
Currently there is a mismatch in numbers of analogues between the SI excel file and the the manuscript.
MYOS codes to be used for the compounds, to maintain the link between compounds in the paper and compounds in the live project. The codes needed are just the initial integers, not the batch/salt codes etc. Can also remove zeroes for readability, so e.g. MYOS7.
Siderophores:
New transcriptomic data from @wwjvdsande in the galleria grain model showed that siderophores are produced (https://github.com/OpenSourceMycetoma/What-other-molecules-to-screen/issues/10). These siderophores might be used as a trojan horse to get molecules into the grain. Could we couple fenarimols to fungal-relevant siderophores may be to get them in? The idea of the siderophores was of interest and all partners agreed to consider whether this could be done at the different sites. There is also potential relevance to other series.
Series 2 - Aminothiazoles
@KlementineJBS is the corresponding researcher for this project at USyd. @KlementineJBS has updated the Wiki with the compounds successfully synthesised by USyd in June.
Molecules made by UCL MSc cohort (23 entries) have been shipped to Erasmus MC for testing. Same applies for selected Whitgift compound (MYOS_0590_00_01).
UCL Masters student cohort began in late May and has now (late July) finished their synthetic work.
Series 5 - Benzimidazoles
The related oxazoles: Good potencies observed for recent compound batches (e.g. here). These resemble the benzimidazoles which have shown potent in vivo efficacy. Some oxazoles will be tested against Falciformispora senegalensis too. This series will be evaluated in vivo in the new larval season.
Series 6: ketoximes
Latest compound shipment here, to be tested by @MA-Jjingyi. TO BE UPDATED
@bebi78 suggested evaluating different salts of the ketoximes.
Series 3: Tricyclics/Phenothiazines
Misc updates:
DMPK measurements by Dundee. Compound selection took place in #8. No updates yet.
Compounds are being shipped from NEU to Erasmus MC: https://github.com/OpenSourceMycetoma/Series-3-Phenothiazines/issues/6#issuecomment-1716760729
MMV Global Health Priority Box screened against Madurella mycetomatis and Falciformispora senegalensis. Led to the identification of promising hits MMV1593278, MMV1804559 and MMV020335.
[x] @MA-Jjingyi to evaluate these compounds in the in vivo model.
[ ] @memm0740 to enter the data for Rohan Davies' compounds into the Master List. They need MyOS codes.
Kinase inhibitor library. The updated KCGS library was ordered on 1st of May. It has arrived in Erasmus MC. Bio-informatical analyses have been carried out by Mickey. @bebi78 can send some 10 targets. Mickey screened this last week for the first time, repeat is scheduled for this week.
Bioinformatics: Waleed requested information on which aspect of bioinformatics should be prioritised to work on first. @wwjvdsande corresponded offline with him. This will include a Phylogenetic tree to work out relationships of various species were identified as high priorities so that we can search the literature for closely related species to Mycetoma, and for the potential structures of the drug target, which would enable us to simulate our data/estimation/computational models. In the May meeting @TariqAyub attended from the Qasim group who will advise on what can be done in terms of future contributions. TO BE UPDATED
In the last meeting @MA-Jjingyi presented toxicity studies results from the latest compound screening performed at Erasmus MC
Molecules which have shown good performance and selected for further in vivo evalutation (in late summer 2023) include:
In the in vivo stage, most compounds will be tested against both M.mycetomatis and F.senegalensis strains.
Next Meeting
October
2431 2023: chair: UCL; minute taker: ErasmusMC