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That's great @Kjmondo! I think you have already sent samples to @wwjvdsande, is that right? If so, can you please provide some details of what these are? We need to add them to our master list of samples.
We will be sending 8 samples. All of them are plant extracts. Prof. Wendy will decide on the concentration for the samples that have not been assayed for antimicrobial activity (We had discussed this on our earlier Zoom meeting). The samples are as below:
Will this help?
OK, thanks for the details @Kjmondo.
Calling medchem/informatics expertise @drc007 @loriferrins @cdsouthan: What do we do about numbering/labelling/listing extracts rather than pure samples? i.e. how does this dovetail with the Master List and our numbering system? Do we assign a MyOS code to the sample (with a batch number) and just omit the SMILES etc?
(also confirming I've added @epatwahirwa (Epaphrodite TWAHIRWA, Mount Kenya University) to this project so that he can also contribute).
I think your plan to assign a MyOS code and omit the SMILES is a reasonable strategy - we do this routinely when screening blind samples for example. I've been trying to think if there would be a way that you could associate additional MyOS numbers should you go ahead and separate the extract but I haven't yet come up with a great way to do that (unless your numbering system might allow XXX-1 etc?).
Using the MyOS number as the sample code is reasonable, I've not looked at the master spreadsheet but does it have a "source" column? If so this could be used to identify the original source and then if you fractionate you could assign a new MyOS number to the fraction and put the original MyOS number in the "source" column. Only when you get to an pure isolated and characterised compound would you need to include SMILES.
@bebi78 You have any experience with these herbs?
@MFernflower No, but it is an interesting collection. OK, garlic is a common spice and applied in Ayurveda for the treament of heart diseases. Indian scientists reported that garlic paste can be used for the treatment of oral candidiasis. Might add well to the active DIM compounds, because DIM is formed in the stomach upon broccoli consumption from a indoleglycoside precursor of broccoli plants.
@bebi78 I did a little search on Cucumis dipsaceus - It's got a bunch of steroid surfactant like compounds in it - the fruits actively foam in water! - probably too toxic for in-the-body use but might be something to consider looking into for a topical
I can give more information about the phytexponent formulation. It contains the following plants: Allium sativum (garlic), Triticum repens (couch grass), Echinacea purpurea (purple coneflower), Viola tricolor (wild pansy) and Matricaria chamomilla (chamomile). All these plants are well documented in European Pharmacopoeia. In vitro, in our laboratory, the formulation has shown the very strong antibacterial and antifungal activities
Our hypothesis: allicin, ajoenes, and allyl sulfides from Allium sativum, Cyclotides from Viola tricolor are the molecules responsible for these activities.
With a complex mixture like a plant extract there isn't a known MW - Might be wise to screen as v/v or w/v
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@MFernflower @epatwahirwa Yes, these active ingredients allicin and allyl sulfides also have cancer preventive effects. So might be interesting to see their effects on mycetoma. I agree that such extracts or compound mixtures should be investigated by using µg/ml units.
@beni78, we have observed through patients taking this formulation that it has indeed effect on cancer. If you look to cyclotides, you will find that they have also anticancer activity, but as you say let's focus on mycetoma
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@Kjmondo @epatwahirwa Are you in contact with Dr. Joshua Ikoni Ogaji of the Dept. of Pharmacy & Complementary/Alternative Medicine of the Kenyatta University in Nairobi?
With a complex mixture like a plant extract there isn't a known MW - Might be wise to screen as v/v or w/v @MA-Jjingyi
You are correct. We will screen v/v in case of fluids and w/v in case of solids.
With a complex mixture like a plant extract there isn't a known MW - Might be wise to screen as v/v or w/v @MA-Jjingyi
You are correct. We will screen v/v in case of fluids and w/v in case of solids.
Yep! I will arrange them later.
@bebi78 I am not in contact with Dr. Joshua Ikoni Ogaji but I can look for him at Kenyatta university. Is he also working on antimicrobial plant mixtures?
@bebi78 I did a little search on Cucumis dipsaceus - It's got a bunch of steroid surfactant like compounds in it - the fruits actively foam in water! - probably too toxic for in-the-body use but might be something to consider looking into for a topical
Please note that these extracts do not cause Acute dermal/Oral Toxicity effects in animal model according to our recent study. Please find one of our recent publications attached herein. jhp-41251.pdf
@Kjmondo Thanks. Yes he also works on plant extracts. But I have seen now that he has left Kenyatta University and has moved to the University of Jos in Nigeria a few years ago.
@bebi78 I did a little search on Cucumis dipsaceus - It's got a bunch of steroid surfactant like compounds in it - the fruits actively foam in water! - probably too toxic for in-the-body use but might be something to consider looking into for a topical
Please note that these extracts do not cause Acute dermal/Oral Toxicity effects in animal model according to our recent study. Please find one of our recent publications attached herein. jhp-41251.pdf
It is pretty interesting to see that the cucumber isn't too toxic - then again there is a similar drug in the Americas called QS-21 that seems to have a decent safety profile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QS-21
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@mattodd and Wendy, any update on this extract from Kenya?
@epatwahirwa we did test the compounds at 100ug/ml and 25ug/ml. as for 2 liquid compounds, we used v/v%. at these concentrations fungi growth were not inhibited.
Thank you @MA-Jjingyi for sharing this. Can I know what these values represent?
@epatwahirwa we did test the compounds at 100ug/ml and 25ug/ml. as for 2 liquid compounds, we used v/v%. at these concentrations fungi growth were not inhibited.
@epatwahirwa hello. sorry for replying late. the values are the initial screening, where we test a high concentration (100ug/ml) and a lower concentration (25 ug/ml). We measure the growth percentage. So 100% means that the fungus is not inhibited in growth at all. 0% means that the fungus was completely inhibited. A value of 89.10587 of the PTM treatment at 100ug/ml means that the growth percentage was 89.1%. This compound therefore did not inhibit the growth at this concentration. We use a cut-off of 20%. So all compounds which result in a growth percentage of 20% or less (thus inhibit more than 80% growth) are considered active. If a compound inhibits at both concentrations (the high and the lower) than it will be tested further and the IC50 and MIC will be determined. If the IC50 is low than the MIC50 (so the MICs against multiple isolates) will be determined. In this case, none of the compounds had a growth percentage below 20% and therefore were not selected for further screening.
@MA-Jjingyi Hello, thank you for your prompt response on the above asked questions. we have begun to understand the provided data, but from the response we can see that the higher concentration (100mcg/ml) has lower activity than the lower concentration (25 mcg/ml) for the PTM sample. can you elaborate about this outcome. thank you in advance in advance.
@MA-Jjingyi Hello, thank you for your prompt response on the above asked questions. we have begun to understand the provided data, but from the response we can see that the higher concentration (100mcg/ml) has lower activity than the lower concentration (25 mcg/ml) for the PTM sample. can you elaborate about this outcome. thank you in advance in advance.
Hi @epatwahirwa . if i understand correct, the test be performed with positive control (only fungi growth, without any compounds added) and negative control (just medium)every time. the growth calculation also depends on the controls. in this case, the growth percentage is the relative values for growth, not the absolute values. and as usual, we need perform the same test 3 times(or 2 times). then, we use the mean value to do further decision. @wwjvdsande am i correct?
Hi @MA-Jjingyi , Thanks for your response. I am trying to understand these results and not quite sure of some issues.
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@Kjmondo @epatwahirwa I'm guest editor for two special issues in Frontiers in Cellular and Infection Biology, and Cancer Drug Resistance. If you or your colleagues in Kenya are interested to contribute let me know. CDR is without APC. https://www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/35703/insights-for-the-use-of-medicinal-chemistry-in-the-treatment-of-parasitic-neglected-tropical-disease https://cdrjournal.com/journal/special_detail/1172
@bebi78 I will inform my colleagues, Thank you.
We are a team of scientists based in Mount Kenya University and Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology – Kenya. We are specialized in Phytochemistry for the preparation of extracts and the Pharmaceutical Screening for the search for bioactive molecules in order to isolate substances that may be of therapeutic interest. We are currently working on the following projects:
Repurposing a food supplement: Phytexponent as antibacterial. Phytexponent is a food supplement made from five medicinal plants, namely: Allium sativum (garlic), Triticum repens (couch grass), Echinacea purpurea (purple coneflower), Viola tricolor (wild pansy) and Matricaria chamomilla (chamomile). It is registered and marketed worldwide as immunomodulator. Some phytochemicals from some of these plants are well documented to exhibit antibacterial activity like allicin, ajoenes, and allyl sulfides in Allium sativum, Cyclotides in Viola tricolor. Our hypothesis is that these phytochemicals can exhibit very potent antibacterial activities, when working synergistically. Hence, we have successively tested Phytexponent against the following bacteria: Streptococcus pneumoniae ([clinical isolates]()), Acinetobacter baumani multidrug resistant (clinical isolates), methicillin resistant resistant Staphylococcus aureus (ATCC12393) , Pseudomonas Aeruginosa (ATCC 27857), Staphylococcus aureus (ATCC 25923), Klebsiella pneumoniae (ATCC 27232), Proteus mirabilis (ATCC25232), Escherichia coli (ATCC 25922) Encouraged by this broad antibacterial activity including against many multidrug resistant bacteria of this formulation, We would like to continue screening it against mycetoma causing agent.
Gervason extracts "CD and PT are aqueous plant extracts with significant antimicrobial efficacy. The extracts were obtained by hot maceration followed by lyophilisation in vacuo using a standard procedure. They can be dissolved in normal saline (0.9% sodium chloride) or dimethylsulphoxide (DMSO) (up to 1.4 %). Preliminary investigation reveal the two extracts have remarkable antibacterial activity against E. coli (both standard and clinical isolates), S. aureus (both standard and clinical isolates), P. aeruginosa (standard), S. enteriditis (both standard and clinical isolates), K. pneumoniae (both standard and clinical isolates), B. subtilis (both standard and clinical isolates), among others. They also exhibit considerable efficacy against S. cerevisiae and C. albicans. Besides, CD posses considerable antidiarrheal and anti-inflammatory efficacy in animal model. PT has remarkable antioxidant, cognitive-enhancing, analgesic, and anti-inflammatory efficacy. Both extract do not elicit dermal or acute oral toxicity, and are safe to experimental animals (LD50>2000 mg/Kg BW). Phytochemical screening showed the present of various bioactive amalgams, such as flavonoids, tannins, alkaloids, coumarins, phenols, among others. We valorize these extracts as potential sources of efficacious lead compounds for developing drugs for treating various diseases."
Julia's extracts XA-Ximenia americana, SA-Sodom apple (Calotropsis procera) and CM-Croton megalocarpus are methanolic plant extracts that we had previously tested their antioxidant activity. The extracts were obtained by cold maceration and followed by lyophilization in vacuo using standard procedure. They can be weighed and dissolved in methanol and DMSO4 to make a workable solution. I have not done any antimicrobial assays with all three in our laboratory. XA was picked from Loitokitok, southern Kenya, SA was collected from Kirinyaga, central Kenya and CM from Juja central Kenya. These plants grow well in tropical countries and have been used in traditional medicine to manage respiratory infections, toothaches, clean wounds, relieve stomach aches, and many other indications which point to antimicrobial activity of these extracts. We hope that this antimicrobial activity may point to compounds that will target the eumycetoma-causing fungal species.