Open vanderbi opened 3 years ago
Major considerations:
Here is spreadsheet that describes some cases where a dataset might have no data entities ("metadata-only"). It might help define these cases. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eA4-ggvJ36J4LIPNnQom_XW8rrHe8ni6hJCUlRGGQxA/edit#gid=0
FYI, we've been having discussions about these external data linkages with ESS-DIVE and Arctic Data Center and how to do them consistently across repositories using EML. If you're interested, maybe this would be a good topic to discuss across groups? ESS-DIVE has a detailed proposal for using annotations with DataCite related identifier properties, but unfortunately they work in a private repository so the ticket isn't publicly visible. But I could talk to @vchendrix about sharing if it is of interest.
Also, @vanderbi, we have to deal with this same issue a lot with the Arctic Data Center where researchers have their data in one repo (e.g., KNB, LTER, BCO-DMO, etc) but they are required by NSF policy to have a copy in the Arctic Data Center. Our preferred approach in that case is to replicate the data package from e.g., EDI to ADC, keeping the exact same contents and identifiers. So, it shows up as a replica in the ADC with the DOI ad citation from LTER/EDI, and DataONE knows its the same dataset, so only shows it once. Can PASTA replicate the dataset from the KNB exactly and keep track that it is a replica?
This is a slightly different case than the metadata only record that Margaret raised to link to data files externally. @vchendrix has some other use cases for external linking outlined as well.
Hi @mbjones - yes, these are important and forefront issues that would be best discussed as a community so that we have a consistent and unified solution. PASTA cannot handle the linked-data use case (i.e., replicate from KNB and track as such) in its present state, but we believe there is a workable solution that can be implemented without too much effort (TBD). That being said, I think a group discussion would be valuable - count me (EDI) in.
That's great, @servilla -- I think a DataONE Community call would be a great place for this discussion. Would that be ok? Just in case, I started a session description for brainstorming here: https://github.com/DataONEorg/community-calls/issues/16 Please contribute ideas and thoughts on what we might discuss and who might be involved -- I threw down a few initial reactions, but feel free to change/elaborate.
@servilla, this feature would be fantastic to see in EDI! Is it still scheduled for development?
@gkamener, this feature is still being worked on as we refine our use of annotations. We expect to have a recommendation early this summer 2024. Sorry that it is slow to arrive.
The use case is that a scientist has published data in the KNB, but it is an LTER dataset and I need to be able to link to the data from EDI without giving it a new DOI. FCE generates its data catalog by harvesting metadata from EDI.
See here for PEP: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kcTn9y18KaTa9V_NVlwvdvX6gZyEzU9knmfOoLy1h34/edit?usp=sharing