Register volcanic forcing source_id and institution_id

[durack1]

@thomasaubry just creating an issue as a placeholder for discussions in finalizing the registration of the volcanic forcing institution_id and source_id.

Note the CMIP6 contribution had institution_id: IACETH (here) and a couple of versioned releases, so source_id entries: IACETH-SAGE3lambda-2-1-0 and 3-0-0 (here).

We have updated the institution registration a little moving beyond CMIP6, these now depend on the RoR registry (see here), and, as an example UExeter is already registered - https://ror.org/03yghzc09

@wolfiex @matthew-mizielinski @taylor13 @vnaik60 @znichollscr ping

[znichollscr]

Great thanks. Just to check, all institutes need to be registered on RoR now in order to play nice with the CMIP process?

[durack1]

@znichollscr that's what we are aiming for, this simplifies things a little our end, as RoR has intentions to manage a lot of info

[znichollscr]

Ok great, but there'll still be some institution ID key in https://github.com/PCMDI/input4MIPs-cmor-tables/blob/master/input4MIPs_institution_id.json#L5

Or is the plan to just check against RoR, and if it's not there, explode?

[durack1]

@znichollscr yep exactly. So as an example, your CMIP6-era contribution was from UoM (University of Melbourne), which is identified here. Ditto for all the other CMIP6-era contributions (CMIP6, input4MIPs, ...)

[thomasaubry]

Thanks both, only just getting to this! I can't see an id for exeter on the RoR page. Do I need to directly edit the input4MIPs_CVs file? Is Exeter the right institution anyway, or could I make a more inclusive one like "CMIP7 CFTT Volcano emission team" and list multiple institutions ? Sources will be quite varied so it might be worth a discussion on how to best inform that. Apologies in advance for the trivial questions and for not engaging with this earlier.

[durack1]

Hi @thomasaubry, looks like U. Exeter is at https://ror.org/03yghzc09.

The way that we've worked in the past (with CMIP6) was to have an institution_id, and a source_id. The institution in this case makes sense to me to be UExeter (linked to the ROR that exists linked above), and then we need to determine a source_id which identifies the contributor(s). In CMIP6 a modelling group (e.g. NOAA-GFDL) contributed data from multiple models/source_id, e.g. GFDL-CM4, GFDL-ESM4 etc - for examples see CMIP6_source_id.html. Ideally, we want these short (<25 chars) as they will be used in the directories and filenames that the data will be published to ESGF on - for the CMIP6 template see here

[durack1]

@znichollscr we have a prototype netcdf file available, so let me know where I can drop this so it can be checked - or how to run the checker on the data?

[znichollscr]

@znichollscr we have a prototype netcdf file available, so let me know where I can drop this so it can be checked - or how to run the checker on the data?

Good question, not really ready for that yet unfortunately! Will ping when I am

[durack1]

@znichollscr I was hoping we could highlight this tool during the meeting Wednesday.. Any chance this could happen, or are we still a while away?

Folks are starting to get to a point that demo files are available, so figured trying to steer everything in one direction (eval tool) is a better idea than my old scripts

[znichollscr]

We can talk about it and the idea, but actually using it is still a couple of months away unfortunately because I have to get my own data out first 🙃