PapaCharlie9 / multi-balancer

BF3 & BF4 multiple mode balancer & unstacker, including SQDM.
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Add force move mode #36

Closed MaccabeeY closed 10 years ago

MaccabeeY commented 11 years ago

I had been replying on the MyRCon website thread regarding this issue, but for some reason that website says "wait 15 minutes, too many incorrect login attempts". I've waited hours and still am told to wait 15 minutes So apologies for posting this here but I thought it important to be posted, so here we go (this is the message I would have sent via normal myrcon thread if I were able).

PapaCharlie, Perhaps, dyn was correct in his previous reply in this thread, perhaps MB just wasn't designed for smaller servers of 16 or 24.

The frequency at which MB gets "stuck" in the beginning of a round (after the typical after-round quitting) is too great. If a round starts out with, say 10 players left from the previous round. For example, if 4 from one side quit right at or shortly after play begins, then say you have 7 vs 3 (happens a bunch). Then MB can't move anyone from the 7 side since the 3 side does not have enough people to be able to kill anyone on the 7 side.

So I guess dyn was right. MB was, is fact, a tool targeted for larger servers where both sides are more likely to contain enough players to cause death on the other side, on a 64 server, if the imbalace is 21 vs 14, 14 is still enough to get players on the 21 side dead, which would allow MB to begin correct a numerical imbalance.

Although I am sure it may have appeared, in the beginning, that it made sense to exclude any option for server-owners to make the choice in a "DO NOT WAIT FOR DEATH" functionality, ultimately it looks like the practical application of that missing option, at least for smaller servers, may not be able effectively make MB unusable. We have enjoyed a large following for some time, often a waiting list of 4 players in the server brower. For a 16 player server this is rare. We have seen this drop off steadily since enabling MB (player comments indicate the love the unstacking but it isn't worth it to wait forever for numerical balance).

So, unfortunately, without some kind of variant of a "DO NOT WAIT UNTIL DEATH TO BALANCE" option for server-owners, as much as it pains me to say, and despite the amazing unstacking of MB, we are being forced to go back to Insane Balancer until we can either afford to purchase a much larger server or can recruit a much larger staff of admin that would be present a good portion of each day, to perform "begin of round" balancing manually.

Hope to hear back, Sadly, Edward

P.S. Regarding sending you a log of some kind, I set the logging in Procon, but do not know how to get such larger file to you?

PapaCharlie9 commented 10 years ago

Adding setting: Enable Admin Kill For Fast Balance