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Component-based web-interface for uploading, browsing and organising content of Paratii's P2P network.
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Implement new layout/copy for "ownership proof", in the "Upload Video" page #512

Open felipegaucho opened 6 years ago

felipegaucho commented 6 years ago

Edited: @pedrocasa has already done the design. https://github.com/Paratii-Video/paratii-portal/wiki/Design-Wiki#upload-video

---> Sidenote: this made me think of something: for crypto-tubers, something they could do to be really serious on this matter is to have, somehow, a public key displayed in their videos (e.g. a nice, framed one, hanging on the wall behind the tuber), and just keep its corresponding pv key safe (e.g. Keybase on audiovisuals) for when whichever ownership disputes arise (e.g. I am claiming to be you, while profiting on your videos over another network). ==> See issue #631

jrgarou commented 6 years ago

Perhaps we should implement this as well: https://github.com/Paratii-Video/paratii-portal/issues/71#issuecomment-375382376

felipegaucho commented 6 years ago

I'd be onbboard, @pedrocasa is it mature? Can we design the "proof of ownership" field already in this layout? What do you think?

pedrocasa commented 6 years ago

It's already on the designs of the upload inside the design wiki

felipegaucho commented 6 years ago

@jrgarou , let's do things one at a time. First the field this issue concerns.

It is here (https://xd.adobe.com/view/ac964a03-32b8-40ed-a868-4a849aecd855/screen/cce54e5b-fcb2-4ad7-9802-f462327eb1bf/upload-1920-2) and here (https://github.com/Paratii-Video/paratii-portal/wiki/Design-Wiki#upload-video).

Transforming the "upload video" tab into a list -> separate issue (less priority, I propose we leave it for next iteration).

jellegerbrandy commented 6 years ago

Ok, we do have this field now, but it probably needs some better copy:

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The question is wrong: 'Is this video really yours' presupposes you can only upload content that is "yours", but there is lots of free stuff out there that ppl can upload as they want.

We want to use this field as the evidence field for being in the TCR - i.e. it can be used as evidence for challenges. So perhaps we can to it like this:

@felipegaucho , what do you think?

felipegaucho commented 6 years ago

To stripe away subjectivity, I'd define focal point = is not copyright infringing, nor infringes international laws.

What if we do:

Is this video yours? ( ) Yes ( ) No

If YES,

"Can you, prove it, please 🙏" PASTE / INPUT FIELD (+ the info. icon that opens the notification explainer on top right)

If NO,

"How can one know you're not breaking copyrights? PASTE / INUT FIELD (+ the info. icon that opens the notification explainer on top right)

cc @pedrocasa

jellegerbrandy commented 6 years ago

Excuse me, but what are "international laws"?

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:02 PM Felipe Sant Ana notifications@github.com wrote:

To stripe away subjectivity, I'd define focal point = is not copyright infringing, nor infringes international laws.

What if we do:

Is this video yours? ( ) Yes ( ) No

If YES,

"Can you, prove it, please 🙏" PASTE / INPUT FIELD (+ the info. icon that opens the notification explainer on top right)

If NO,

"How can one know you're not breaking copyrights? PASTE / INUT FIELD (+ the info. icon that opens the notification explainer on top right)

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pedrocasa commented 6 years ago

@felipegaucho just to be clear. Do you mean a regular input by saying "PASTE / INPUT FIELD"?

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pedrocasa commented 6 years ago

I discussed with @jrgarou and we talked if it would be easier if we only have one type of form after the "is this video yours?". This will save us from hiding different forms if the "yes" option or the "no" option is activated.

jrgarou commented 6 years ago

@felipegaucho this "no() + 'How can one know you're not breaking copyrights?' field " looks like a "I agree with the terms & conditions" check field. If yes, we could do something like:

Am I right? What you think?

eliawk commented 6 years ago

@felipegaucho @pedrocasa we need to implement this new ownership proof?

felipegaucho commented 6 years ago

Makes sense? Is it too abstract? @pedrocasa would you fancy a quick sketch?

jellegerbrandy commented 6 years ago

youtube simply does this: [image: image.png] that is much much friendlier than what we are proposing here.

So, to be more constructive, perhaps the form should look liek this:

In the TCR workflow, I think the process could become: upload a video - proof of ownership is optional. Someone challenges (and must provide evidence in the challenge). And only at that time, the original uploader is asked for a "defense" or a "proof". This is also much closer to how actual copryight systems (as on yt) work.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 7:10 AM Felipe Sant Ana notifications@github.com wrote:

  • @jellegerbrandy https://github.com/jellegerbrandy should it be called "proof of rights" instead of "proof of ownership"?
  • @eliawk https://github.com/eliawk, @jrgarou https://github.com/jrgarou suggested we have a radial button for "Is this video yours?" (so you're either on Yes, which is pre-set, or in No); and then an input field, either next to it or under it, pre-set to "Can you, prove it, please 🙏", but that changes if you switch to "No", to "How can one know you're not breaking copyrights?" - with the info. icon next to both. Then, below, "I agree with the terms & conditions" (x) checkbox for both cases or not.

Is it too abstract? @pedrocasa https://github.com/pedrocasa would you fancy a quick sketch?

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pedrocasa commented 6 years ago

Hey @jellegerbrandy, I think we should go with this:

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pedrocasa commented 6 years ago

@jellegerbrandy do you have any final considerations about :point_up::point_up: ?

jellegerbrandy commented 6 years ago

I say :+1:

jellegerbrandy commented 6 years ago

@jrgarou , can you add this to your (long) list of things to do?

jrgarou commented 6 years ago

@jellegerbrandy yes