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some consumption & expenditure preprocessors #281

Open quciet opened 8 months ago

quciet commented 8 months ago

Here are 3 outdated preprocessors,

HouseCon%GDP, GovtHl%GDP, and GovtPension%GDP.

Are they still provided by WDI? Do we have alternatives in IFs already?

quciet commented 8 months ago

We have following 3 tables from WDI for the HH consumption, are they marked as preprocessors yet?

ConsumGenGovt%GDP ConsumHHFinal%GDP ConsumTotal%GDP

PardeeCenterIFs commented 8 months ago

I forgot to run the marking process before creating version 8.19, but I have run it now, so if I have to re-create the installation it will be there, or for future installations if there's no data update. I don't have plans to re-create the installation of 8.19 only for this, so I probably wont.

PardeeCenterIFs commented 8 months ago

By the way, I did a search for ConsumGenGovt%GDP in the code and couldn't find it. Same with ConsumHHFinal%GDP and ConsumTotal%GDP.

quciet commented 8 months ago

By the way, I did a search for ConsumGenGovt%GDP in the code and couldn't find it. Same with ConsumHHFinal%GDP and ConsumTotal%GDP.

Thanks for letting me know! I think these should in general replace what we currently have in IFs. Mohammod should have more information on these since he asked for these tables initially. @mtirfan66 , any idea? Thanks!

quciet commented 3 months ago

There are two preprocessors called HealthExpPriv%Tot and HealthExpTot%GDP, which have more recent data than GovtHl%GDP. What are relations between HealthExpTot%GDP & GovtHl%GDP? Should we just replace the old one? Including its use in the Historical Analogue?

PardeeCenterIFs commented 2 months ago

From what I can see in the code, it looks like Total = Governemnt + Private, so:

HealthExpTot%GDP GDP = HealthExpPriv%Tot (HealthExpTot%GDP GDP) + GovtHl%GDP GDP or HealthExpTot%GDP = HealthExpPriv%Tot * HealthExpTot%GDP + GovtHl%GDP

I think we could do Government = Total - Private, and if not available, try and go to the Government table, maybe we should talk about this in the next modeling Pod, so that we're all in the same page.

quciet commented 1 week ago

By the way, I did a search for ConsumGenGovt%GDP in the code and couldn't find it. Same with ConsumHHFinal%GDP and ConsumTotal%GDP.

Thanks for letting me know! I think these should in general replace what we currently have in IFs. Mohammod should have more information on these since he asked for these tables initially. @mtirfan66 , any idea? Thanks!

Ok, after some digging. I think instead of replacing the tables-

  1. Values under ConsumHHFinal%GDP should be merged in to HouseCon%GDP. Because both of them are private consumption (household + NPISH).
  2. After merging, ConsumGenGovt%GDP, ConsumHHFinal%GDP, and ConsumTotal%GDP should all be deleted. Since ConsumGenGovt%GDP is the same as GovCon%GDP, and ConsumTotal%GDP is just the total of HH + GenGovt.

For private consumption tables, their values are pretty consistent for majority of countries. However, there are countries with significant differences. Since the old table only has values up to 2016, I could only compare 2016 values.

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quciet commented 6 days ago

From what I can see in the code, it looks like Total = Governemnt + Private, so:

HealthExpTot%GDP GDP = HealthExpPriv%Tot (HealthExpTot%GDP GDP) + GovtHl%GDP GDP or HealthExpTot%GDP = HealthExpPriv%Tot * HealthExpTot%GDP + GovtHl%GDP

I think we could do Government = Total - Private, and if not available, try and go to the Government table, maybe we should talk about this in the next modeling Pod, so that we're all in the same page.

Here are some findings before we move on

  1. In WHO, Current Health Expen = Domestic Private + Domestic General Government + External Expense
  2. Current Health Expense does not include capital health expenditures such as buildings, machinery, IT and stocks of vaccines for emergency or outbreaks
  3. Capital Health Expense = Domestic + External
quciet commented 5 days ago

From what I can see in the code, it looks like Total = Governemnt + Private, so: HealthExpTot%GDP GDP = HealthExpPriv%Tot (HealthExpTot%GDP GDP) + GovtHl%GDP GDP or HealthExpTot%GDP = HealthExpPriv%Tot * HealthExpTot%GDP + GovtHl%GDP I think we could do Government = Total - Private, and if not available, try and go to the Government table, maybe we should talk about this in the next modeling Pod, so that we're all in the same page.

Here are some findings before we move on

  1. In WHO, Current Health Expen = Domestic Private + Domestic General Government + External Expense
  2. Current Health Expense does not include capital health expenditures such as buildings, machinery, IT and stocks of vaccines for emergency or outbreaks
  3. Capital Health Expense = Domestic + External

After a modeling pod discussion-

We are going to update just the government health spending table. We will bring in other related health spending tables but they won't be implemented.

So next steps are-

  1. Update the consumption table and do a model vetting.
  2. Update the health spending table and do a model vetting.