Training set and test set setting?

[skill-diver]

Hi Author,

1. Do you use the megadepth dataset from 0000 to 5014 as training set like the 1st and 2nd images show?

2.When prep_info's corresponding Undistorted_sfm has both dense0 and dense1, dense0 should be choosed or dense1 should be choosed?

3. What is your test set to produce the result in paper like the 3rd image show.

[Parskatt]

Hi, We use a subset of the scenes that should match the ones used by loftr. See megadepth.py for specifics.

Table 5 is on megadepth1500 which you can get from loftr as well. The exact settings should be the ones we use in the eval scripts in experiments. Let me know if you have any issues reproducing. I sometimes get about 0.5 lower than the reported numbers, the eval is stochastic.

[skill-diver]

When we do the benchmarking, the AUC5, AUC10, and AUC20 values of the original RoMa are 0.622, 0.764, and 0.862, respectively. But, in the paper, they recorded as 62.6, 76.7, 86.3. The differences are 0.004, 0.003, and 0.001. Do you think the difference are normal?

[Parskatt]

Yes, this seems reasonable. When I ran the original test run I think I got lucky with the auc5. There might also exist some tiny differences due to updates to codebase and so on.

[stilcrad]

This job is great and effective! And I have some doubts about this field because I am not very familiar with conventions. Are the values of other methods in this table redeployed and run or are they referenced from the original author's paper, such as PMatch. I noticed that their code seems to be unavailable. Can we directly reference these values when publishing our paper, if we use the same code and settings for evaluation? I have not yet published a paper, and I am very puzzled about this. @Parskatt Thank you very much if you can answer.

[Parskatt]

Hi @stilcrad numbers are referenced from the original paper. Typically this is ok. Agree that it’s unfortunate that pmatch code is unavailable.

Good luck with the paper 😀

[skill-diver]

Hi author, thank you for the kindly answering. Do you get this result from the setting of eval_roma_outdoor? I get result lower 5% than the paper.

[Parskatt]

I thought you got

0.622, 0.764, and 0.862

5% lower shouldnt be possible, no.

[skill-diver]

Do you use eval_roma_outdoor.py for paper results? I am not sure why results are {"auc_5": 0.6221797024846101, "auc_10": 0.7651434566786843, "auc_20": 0.8623855457790823, "map_5": 0.8589333333333333, "map_10": 0.8977333333333333, "map_20": 0.9329333333333334} or {"auc_5": 0.6221797024846101, "auc_10": 0.7651434566786843, "auc_20": 0.8623855457790823, "map_5": 0.8589333333333333, "map_10": 0.8977333333333333, "map_20": 0.9329333333333334} when use eval_roma_outdoor

[Parskatt]

Yes, this seems reasonable. Its not 5% difference, its 0.4% diff.

[nfyfamr]

@Parskatt Dear author, thanks so much for sharing this great work! I have a question for reproducing the result. I downloaded the megadepth_test_1500.tar (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nTkK1485FuwqA0DbZrK2Cl0WnXadUZdc) and scene info files (https://github.com/zju3dv/LoFTR/tree/master/assets/megadepth_test_1500_scene_info) from loftr, and then I ran the test_mega1500 function in experiment/eval_roma_outdoor.py for evaluation. But, I got different result from your paper:

roma_latest auc: [0.5677237404897058, 0.7208718777946967, 0.8334141046912583]

It is strange. Do you have any suggestion on this?

[Parskatt]

@nfyfamr I dont have my machine in front of me atm so can't rerun the tests myself, but here's a checklist for what should be enabled to reproduce results.

A) check that resolution (672, 672) (1152, 1152) or similar for coarse and upsample resolutions respectively. B) check that model.sample_mode == threshold_balanced C) check that model.symmetric = True D) check that the threshold is 0.05 for sampling E) Check that all weights are loaded F) check that there is no tf32 enabled anywhere (this can ruin precision).

I have previously reproduced the performance, of the paper, but as PRs etc come in regressions can occur.

Finally, there might be other packages you have installed that are interfering. I suggest making a clean conda environment (python3.10) and using pip install -e .

[skill-diver]

Does the megadepth training dataset has some missing files in Undistorted_SfM? Since some of them just have sceneinfo and no matching Undistorted_SfM. When I set k<N during training will get data loading missing error.

[Parskatt]

Are you using our train split or all scene infos? All scenes in our train split should have undistorted sfm scenes. Your undistorted sfm com3s from running undistort on something of course. Please check that all relevant images are there.

There might also be people who have asked similar questions in the loftr repo, please also check there.

[nfyfamr]

@Parskatt Thanks for the advice. I checked them and used clean conda environment. But the result was the same before. Could you let me know the commit id you used at your evaluation?

[Parskatt]

@Parskatt Thanks for the advice. I checked them and used clean conda environment. But the result was the same before. Could you let me know the commit id you used at your evaluation?

https://github.com/Parskatt/RoMa/pull/20

In this pull I reproduced results.

[nfyfamr]

Great, it works. Now I can reproduce the values. Thanks a lot!

[Parskatt]

Oh, then some bug must have been introduced...

[Parskatt]

@nfyfamr Can you verify whether you ran mega_1500 or mega1500_poselib in your eval on the main branch? I saw that I accidentally pushed mega1500_poselib as default. There might be some bug there.

If that was the case, could you please rerun with mega_1500 and see if you reproduce numbers? Thanks.

[Parskatt]

I should probably add some CI or similar to force test to be repros before pushing to main... Lesson learned maybe.

[nfyfamr]

I have previously obtained results with commit 36389eff4089d7b3f4a752c054e8fd0714af7177.

eval_func	auc_5	auc_10	auc_20	map_5	map_10	map_20
test_mega1500	0.5727527127136149	0.7254060310226411	0.8352978172988873	0.8206666666666667	0.8691333333333333	0.9124666666666666
test_mega1500_poselib	0.6760297739076481	0.797341250186941	0.8817295823149974	0.8777333333333334	0.9111333333333334	0.9430333333333333

Hope this helps your work.

[Parskatt]

@nfyfamr Could you rerun with the latest commit? I found that a recent PR had accidentally broken "upsample_preds" which is used for mega1500.

As a bonus, I fixed the mesh grid params so you won't get annoying warnings about that anymore :p

[nfyfamr]

I got these values for the latest commit (e6588007d4f0fdd010725948805bf266b8eab71f). auc_5 looks have a little more value drop than the paper by about 0.6%, but I think this is due to the upsample resolution. Currently, the default setting for it is (1344,1344). Anyway, now it looks to work as expected. Thanks for the hot fix.

eval_func	auc_5	auc_10	auc_20
test_mega1500	0.6206959686191287	0.7638559072790045	0.8611694451475638

[Parskatt]

Yes, this looks reasonable to me.