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New (lack of) speed cap is funny, but shouldnt be there #215

Open Zen9890 opened 3 months ago

Zen9890 commented 3 months ago

image The fact that ships can get 300 speed right now is too fucking stupid, with this you should be able to outrun ion cannons considering that speed of ship is 1 range unit also this may cause ammunition clipping where bullets fly through ships without hitting them

Inedilarion commented 3 months ago

I will add that increasing the speed will weaken all weapons that have projectile speed, up to complete uselessness. With all the fun of such changes, do not forget that one of these kills half of the game’s content at once

vlad-ultramarine commented 3 months ago

тоже интересно зачем это делать, ладно бы лимит стал бы не 20/20, а 30/30. Но полное его отсутствие, это проблема

vlad-ultramarine commented 3 months ago

Congratulations, you just broken the high level arena battles Screenshot_20240510-210233

https://github.com/PavelZinchenko/event-horizon-frontier-builds/assets/163786031/9d4491c8-7d55-4dd9-9da9-835721a1d88c

PavelZinchenko commented 3 months ago

These numbers don't represent the actual speed, it's actually capped at 100. I've reduced the limits to 60/60 and fixed numbers in stats in the latest build. I tested all top arena battles and encountered no errors. Could you please show the error log?

vlad-ultramarine commented 3 months ago

These numbers don't represent the actual speed, it's actually capped at 100. I've reduced the limits to 60/60 and fixed numbers in stats in the latest build. I tested all top arena battles and encountered no errors. Could you please show the error log?

https://github.com/PavelZinchenko/event-horizon-frontier-builds/assets/163786031/67df05f0-b663-407c-829c-51ab38f02fce

Neuron114 commented 3 months ago

I've reduced the limits to 60/60 and fixed numbers in stats in the latest build.

Pavel, it's still redundant. 20/20 need some yimes to get used to it, 30/30 is already very hard to control, 60/60 is way redundant and shouldn't be there, this may endup giving the enemy a bit of advantage here instead of making it easier for player to play

please revert to 20/20 speed cap

Snowgods commented 3 months ago

It's also making 1v1 arena battles impossible - combined with the current keep away tactic that the AI is using the AI spends all it's time keeping out of range, even if that means it can't attack. Basically, against a long range, fast ship the AI will just keep running away, causing the attacker to lose by time out (and even out ranging my 316.8 modified range on my Jorgumandr's pixie cannon, An option is to put a hard border (not a wrap) on the Arena, maybe 400-500 radius which allows some

PavelZinchenko commented 3 months ago

These numbers don't represent the actual speed, it's actually capped at 100. I've reduced the limits to 60/60 and fixed numbers in stats in the latest build. I tested all top arena battles and encountered no errors. Could you please show the error log?

Screen_Recording_20240510_210010_20240510_223618.mp4

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vlad-ultramarine commented 3 months ago

These numbers don't represent the actual speed, it's actually capped at 100. I've reduced the limits to 60/60 and fixed numbers in stats in the latest build. I tested all top arena battles and encountered no errors. Could you please show the error log?

Screen_Recording_20240510_210010_20240510_223618.mp4

Можете показать детали? Они появятся если нажать на сообщение об ошибке.

если снова поймаю этот баг, то напишу

PavelZinchenko commented 3 months ago

Speed limit reduced to 30/30, and acceleration limit to 300/300

qazxcplmnbv commented 3 months ago

Ограничение скорости, которое, по мнению индивидуума, не должно быть таким жестким, может быть ограничено 40 скоростями, а ограничение 30 скоростей — это немного слишком для творчества. Что касается проблем на арене, то можно попытаться решить их с точки зрения самой арены и arena ai.

vlad-ultramarine commented 3 months ago

Ограничение скорости, которое, по мнению индивидуума, не должно быть таким жестким, может быть ограничено 40 скоростями, а ограничение 30 скоростей — это немного слишком для творчества. Что касается проблем на арене, то можно попытаться решить их с точки зрения самой арены и arena ai.

это не мнение меня одного, ограничение в 60/60 уже непросто для ии и тем более игрока. Это ещё не учитывая параметр ускорения который вообще не имел ограничения (игроки смогли сделать фрегату whistle угловое ускорение в 11 тыс единиц, что привело к тому что когда ты летишь прямо у тебя корабль постоянно виляет и не может просто лететь по прямой линии)

PavelZinchenko commented 3 months ago

Enemies no longer use long-range tactics in duels, and the battlefield is now looped. The speed limit has been changed to 40/40.