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PazerOP / tf2_bot_detector

Automatically detects and votekicks cheaters/bots in TF2 casual.
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add rule for new bots. Milenko.neocities.net, THE GREAT MILENKO, Milenko anti-bot, Anything with MILENKO in it. #200

Closed ShaneDawsonsCat closed 3 years ago

ShaneDawsonsCat commented 4 years ago

Milenko is a supposed "anti bot" bot hoster, but these bots recently have gone rogue, undercover as "fake" milenko bots. this "milenko" group has gone a month or so undetected as a normal bot host, and is even making money off donations from unsuspecting people, who do not know that their money is going towards bad bots, and not good bots.

Salam Alaykum.

ClusterConsultant commented 4 years ago

Someone on the discord made some regex for this.

Link2006 commented 4 years ago

This is incorrect, the bots you are seeing as rogue are called "mlienko" bots which are made by the cheaters to impersonate the anti-bot. I would agree that said impersonating bots should be added as a rule though.

incontestableness commented 4 years ago

Milenko here. That's pretty funny OP, considering you were trying to spam my discord yesterday, starting with that same phrase you mention at the end there.

incontestableness commented 4 years ago

Screenshot_2020-08-25_09-26-53 :thinking:

CrazyGunman2C4U commented 4 years ago

This is just Fornitelad.

@incontestableness Anyway, since you already have a guide explaining how to differentiate your bot from the malicious rest, how about using random names, so we can simply name-ban Milenko and you won't get impersonated.

It's probably also a good idea to change your chat messages from time-to-time.

You could even equip an objector with a (non-color filtered) decal which clarifies you are peaceful. Sure, bots could copy that, but they can't use their primary weapon while holding the objector ;)

BOLD

incontestableness commented 4 years ago

@CrazyGunman2C4U random names would be doable, but I'd have to come up with a bunch of names, which isn't easy. it's also very possible that malicious bot hosters could just fetch all the names in use and then use them themselves, which would make it pointless.

there's only so many variations of a sentence; I'd run out of ideas fast.

an objector would only be on premium bots, which don't need it since they can call votes and use chat.

I already have a fairly complete list of all the malicious bots my milenko bots have seen running the past few days - there's 205 at the moment. I've found it to be very accurate in my testing. you can download it here, but I'm still waiting on PazerOP to decide to put it in the wiki. the list is curated by automatically detecting malicious bots via signals they send as well as my own name list -- this means it doesn't necessarily require a list of player names to detect bots; as such, malicious bots impersonating milenko are still detected. if everyone were to use this list as well, I feel like that might be more effective.

CrazyGunman2C4U commented 4 years ago

I joined your Discord server and will reply there from now on to keep this on-topic.

Thanks for the quick reply.

cyberkitsune commented 4 years ago

Why doesn't @incontestableness just share all the steam id's of the legit bot killers with us for a "whitelist?"

The-personified-devil commented 4 years ago

I think it's because that would make the bad bots be able to target his bots (Or at least a lot easier to.).

107zxz commented 4 years ago

All bots are bad bots. I don't see the point of having 4 player slots of any server taken up by bots and "anti-bots". It's a stupid idea that adds to the problem, and is the exact opposite approach to the bot detector in solving it.

I hope that this project adds no official support for "anti-bots", as it would oppose the purpose of the bot detector itself.

incontestableness commented 4 years ago

The bots leave automatically after about 15 seconds. They don't take up player slots; Valve wrote a very efficient lobby system for TF2. Milenko bots joining and then leaving matches are a non-issue because available players will be assigned to the match after bots leave. Any further issues regarding Milenko bots should be taken to the discord server, here: https://discord.gg/UsZM3Kw

ClusterConsultant commented 3 years ago

This project does not advocate for the usage of these "antibots." That being said our efforts are focused on more overtly malicious bots. I am going to close this for now and if it becomes problematic in the future it will be either reopened or a fresh issue made.