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'Global symbol "$identifier" requires explicit package' error message #13732

Closed p5pRT closed 10 years ago

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

Migrated from rt.perl.org#121638 (status was 'resolved')

Searchable as RT121638$

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From the.rob.dixon@gmail.com

This is a bug report for perl from the.rob.dixon@​gmail.com\, generated with the help of perlbug 1.39 running under perl 5.16.2.

I believe it is high time that the error

  Global symbol "$identifier" requires explicit package

be changed to something more appropriate. I assume it dates back to perl 4\, as these days it is extremely rare that the problem is really a missing package name\, and vastly more likely that the variable simply hasn't been declared.

Worst of all it confounds Perl beginners\, who are the most likely audience to be forgetting to declare a variable\, as packages and fully-qualified identifiers are mid-level Perl.

I suggest something more like the simple

  Variable "$identifier" has not been declared

is superior. I don't think there is any need at all to mention the fact that the problem could also be fixed by fully-qualifying the identifier\, as it is the poorest solution of all\, and those that want to access a variable from a different package but don't know how to do it wouldn't really be helped much by the current message.

Flags​:   category=core   severity=low

Site configuration information for perl 5.16.2​:

Configured by strawberry-perl at Fri Nov 2 00​:34​:53 2012.

Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 16 subversion 2) configuration​:

  Platform​:   osname=MSWin32\, osvers=4.0\, archname=MSWin32-x86-multi-thread   uname='Win32 strawberry-perl 5.16.2.1 #1 Fri Nov 2 00​:33​:54 2012 i386'   config_args='undef'   hint=recommended\, useposix=true\, d_sigaction=undef   useithreads=define\, usemultiplicity=define   useperlio=define\, d_sfio=undef\, uselargefiles=define\, usesocks=undef   use64bitint=undef\, use64bitall=undef\, uselongdouble=undef   usemymalloc=n\, bincompat5005=undef   Compiler​:   cc='gcc'\, ccflags =' -s -O2 -DWIN32 -DPERL_TEXTMODE_SCRIPTS -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -fno-strict-aliasing -mms-bitfields'\,   optimize='-s -O2'\,   cppflags='-DWIN32'   ccversion=''\, gccversion='4.6.3'\, gccosandvers=''   intsize=4\, longsize=4\, ptrsize=4\, doublesize=8\, byteorder=1234   d_longlong=undef\, longlongsize=8\, d_longdbl=define\, longdblsize=12   ivtype='long'\, ivsize=4\, nvtype='double'\, nvsize=8\, Off_t='long long'\, lseeksize=8   alignbytes=8\, prototype=define   Linker and Libraries​:   ld='g++'\, ldflags ='-s -L"C​:\strawberry\perl\lib\CORE" -L"C​:\strawberry\c\lib"'   libpth=C​:\strawberry\c\lib C​:\strawberry\c\i686-w64-mingw32\lib   libs=-lmoldname -lkernel32 -luser32 -lgdi32 -lwinspool -lcomdlg32 -ladvapi32 -lshell32 -lole32 -loleaut32 -lnetapi32 -luuid -lws2_32 -lmpr -lwinmm -lversion -lodbc32 -lodbccp32 -lcomctl32   perllibs=-lmoldname -lkernel32 -luser32 -lgdi32 -lwinspool -lcomdlg32 -ladvapi32 -lshell32 -lole32 -loleaut32 -lnetapi32 -luuid -lws2_32 -lmpr -lwinmm -lversion -lodbc32 -lodbccp32 -lcomctl32   libc=\, so=dll\, useshrplib=true\, libperl=libperl516.a   gnulibc_version=''   Dynamic Linking​:   dlsrc=dl_win32.xs\, dlext=dll\, d_dlsymun=undef\, ccdlflags=' '   cccdlflags=' '\, lddlflags='-mdll -s -L"C​:\strawberry\perl\lib\CORE" -L"C​:\strawberry\c\lib"'

Locally applied patches​:

@​INC for perl 5.16.2​:   C​:/strawberry/perl/site/lib/MSWin32-x86-multi-thread   C​:/strawberry/perl/site/lib   C​:/strawberry/perl/vendor/lib   C​:/strawberry/perl/lib   .

Environment for perl 5.16.2​:   HOME (unset)   LANG (unset)   LANGUAGE (unset)   LD_LIBRARY_PATH (unset)   LOGDIR (unset)   PATH=C​:\Program Files (x86)\ImageMagick-6.8.3-Q16;C​:\Program Files\ImageMagick-6.8.3-Q16;C​:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C​:\Program Files (x86)\PC Connectivity Solution\;C​:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C​:\Program Files (x86)\PHP\;C​:\Windows\system32;C​:\Windows;C​:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C​:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C​:\Program Files\jEdit;C​:\usr\local\ppt\bin;C​:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Smart Projects\IsoBuster;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Oracle\Berkeley DB 11gR2 5.3.15\bin;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Git\cmd;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Bazaar;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Lua\5.1;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Lua\5.1\clibs;C​:\strawberry\c\bin;C​:\strawberry\perl\site\bin;C​:\strawberry\perl\bin;C​:\Program Files\TortoiseSVN\bin;C​:\MediaInfoCLI;C​:\Program Files (x86)\MKVToolNix;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Subversion\bin;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Ulead Systems\MPEG;C​:\Program Files (x86)\QuickTime\QTSystem\;C​:\Program Files\Microsoft Network Monitor 3\;C​:\Program Files\Calibre2\;C​:\Program Files (x86)\MySQL\MySQL Utilities 1.3.4\;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Acronis\SnapAPI\;C​:\Program Files\WinRAR;C​:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Hackety Hack\0.r1529\..;C​:\Program Files (x86)\IDM Computer Solutions\UltraCompare\;C​:\ffmpeg\bin;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Serviio\lib;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC\bin\x86_amd64;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC\bin\amd64;C​:\SWIG;C​:\MinGW\bin;C​:\MinGW\MSYS\1.0\bin;C​:\Python27;C​:\Curl;C​:\pkg-config\bin;C​:\glib\bin;C​:\gettext-runtime\bin;C​:\Program Files (x86)\IDM Computer Solutions\UltraEdit\;C​:\LuaRocks\2.0;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools;C​:\Ruby193\bin;C​:\Ruby193.DevKit\bin;C​:\Program Files (x86)\Nmap;C​:\MobiPerl   PERL_BADLANG (unset)   SHELL (unset)

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @rjbs

This does not strike me as a bad idea.

-- rjbs

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

The RT System itself - Status changed from 'new' to 'open'

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From rob.dixon@gmx.com

On 14/04/2014 15​:36\, Ricardo SIGNES via RT wrote​:

This does not strike me as a bad idea.

As always with Perl\, I think the biggest problem will be with backward-compatability. In this case with documentation.

Google is now the primary route to an analysis of any error message\, and if a new\, better message is written to describe the same problem then it will confuse people.

Of course\, that is not to say that irrelevant messages should be kept in circulation just to satisfy the majority\, but it does need some thought and discussion.

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p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @Smylers

Rob Dixon writes​:

On 14/04/2014 15​:36\, Ricardo SIGNES via RT wrote​:

This does not strike me as a bad idea.

I think it's a good idea. When teaching people Perl\, I've found that message to be one of the things that makes the least sense to the learners.

The current wording basically reads the same as “Error​: -41”\, in that it's merely an opaque identifier used to look up the actual problem (by Google\, or by asking the person trying to teach you Perl).

As always with Perl\, I think the biggest problem will be with backward-compatability. In this case with documentation.

Google is now the primary route to an analysis of any error message\, and if a new\, better message is written to describe the same problem then it will confuse people.

Why? For somebody running an old version of Perl\, the current Google hits for that message will remain.

For somebody running a new version with a changed error message\, there presumably currently isn't any useful information for the new wording\, but that will end up getting written. The perldiag entry for the new wording could end with a note saying a different message used to be used.

And if the message achieves its aim in being better\, fewer people will need to Google it anyway.

Smylers -- http​://twitter.com/Smylers2

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From ambrus@math.bme.hu

If you're fixing old error messages\, can you fix a few others too?

1. Remove 'Unquoted string "%s" may clash with future reserved word' ? These days\, if perl5porters add a reserved word\, it's protected by 'use feature' so it can't clash with a bareword in old code.

2. Improve 'Variable "%s" is not imported' which you get when you use the wrong slot of an existing glob\, such as in 'use strict; our $x = [3\,1\,4]; my $n = $x[0];' ? The error has nothing to do with importing anything. Even the perldiags entry is confusing\, because it keeps talking about importing from a module.

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @ap

* Ricardo SIGNES via RT \perlbug\-followup@​perl\.org [2014-04-14 16​:40]​:

This does not strike me as a bad idea.

I think it is in fact an excellent idea. Gabor has mentioned this error message to me as the number 1 hurdle for beginners\, and the top reason that everyone tends to write 1997-style Perl at first if left to their own devices​: they forget to declare a variable\, get an incomprehensible error message (which even if they understood it\, just tells them how to treat the variable as a global anyhow)\, and if they take out the line with `use strict` the code “works”. For someone just trying to get a few lines of code to work\, working outside of some formal learning context\, guess what that teaches them.

Gabor brought this up before\, but the proposal went nowhere. :-( http​://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/;msgid=d8a74af10709020112o77419172q4cc2f2ff66dca385@​mail.gmail.com

* Rob Dixon \rob\.dixon@​gmx\.com [2014-04-15 04​:45]​:

As always with Perl\, I think the biggest problem will be with backward-compatability. In this case with documentation.

I agree that backcompat will be a problem\, but I don’t think Google is the reason. I have the vague feeling that there must be a lot of code out there that’s matching on the text of this particular message. But I can imagine myself being surprised at how little there is\, too. This is probably a case where there must be a full-CPAN smoke against the branch with the change\, so there is some *data* on how much will break before any call can be made on how to proceed.

If this *can* go into 5.22\, that would be *excellent*\, but I won’t be expecting that


When Gabor brought this up\, the perma-topic of having more structured error messages (error numbers\, dual-valued $@​\, an exception hierarchy\, *something*) inevitably came up. But it’s been a long time and we have gotten no closer to that in the meantime


Regards\, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // \<http​://plasmasturm.org/>

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @khwilliamson

On Tue Apr 15 02​:38​:00 2014\, b_jonas wrote​:

If you're fixing old error messages\, can you fix a few others too?

1. Remove 'Unquoted string "%s" may clash with future reserved word' ? These days\, if perl5porters add a reserved word\, it's protected by 'use feature' so it can't clash with a bareword in old code.

2. Improve 'Variable "%s" is not imported' which you get when you use the wrong slot of an existing glob\, such as in 'use strict; our $x = [3\,1\,4]; my $n = $x[0];' ? The error has nothing to do with importing anything. Even the perldiags entry is confusing\, because it keeps talking about importing from a module.

Could someone suggest better wording? -- Karl Williamson

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @ikegami

On Tue\, Jul 29\, 2014 at 1​:26 PM\, Karl Williamson via RT \< perlbug-followup@​perl.org> wrote​:

2. Improve 'Variable "%s" is not imported' which you get when you use the wrong slot of an existing glob\, such as in 'use strict; our $x = [3\,1\,4]; my $n = $x[0];' ? The error has nothing to do with importing anything. Even the perldiags entry is confusing\, because it keeps talking about importing from a module.

Could someone suggest better wording?

Easy! Global symbol "@​x" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @ikegami

On Tue\, Jul 29\, 2014 at 10​:14 PM\, Eric Brine \ikegami@&#8203;adaelis\.com wrote​:

On Tue\, Jul 29\, 2014 at 1​:26 PM\, Karl Williamson via RT \< perlbug-followup@​perl.org> wrote​:

2. Improve 'Variable "%s" is not imported' which you get when you use the wrong slot of an existing glob\, such as in 'use strict; our $x = [3\,1\,4]; my $n = $x[0];' ? The error has nothing to do with importing anything. Even the perldiags entry is confusing\, because it keeps talking about importing from a module.

Could someone suggest better wording?

Easy! Global symbol "@​x" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.

Well\, that is to say\, the same as the one received using 'use strict; my $n = $x[0];'

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @khwilliamson

I tried a CPAN smoke of changing this message. The high level results are attached as the first file.

If I look at the failures\, the ones which have the changed wording in their test output amount to 130 distinct distributions. The second attachment is an example of an expected failure there.

But some of the failures are more like the third attachment. And looking at the smoke output\, a lot of things failed because of failed prerequisites. Steffen doesn't understand it. The code is using cpanplus to compile things.

And there is that the output says 2800 distributions are missing from the output; also something I and Steffen don't understand.

So I'm not sure how to proceed. What do you think?

-- Karl Williamson

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @khwilliamson

From​: khw@​example.com (Karl Williamson) X-Test-Reporter-Distfile​: LUKEC/mocked-0.09.tar.gz X-Test-Reporter-Perl​: v5.21.3 Subject​: FAIL mocked-0.09 x86_64-linux-thread-multi 3.13.0-32-generic Report​: This distribution has been tested as part of the CPAN Testers project\, supporting the Perl programming language. See http​://wiki.cpantesters.org/ for more information or email questions to cpan-testers-discuss@​perl.org

--

Dear LUKEC\,

This is a computer-generated error report created automatically by CPANPLUS\, version 0.9152. Testers personal comments may appear at the end of this report.

Thank you for uploading your work to CPAN. However\, it appears that there were some problems testing your distribution.

TEST RESULTS​:

Below is the error stack from stage 'make test'​:

/home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/bin/perl "-Iinc" /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/mocked-0.09/Makefile.PL --config= --installdeps=Test​::Exception\,0 PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/bin/perl "-MExtUtils​::Command​::MM" "-MTest​::Harness" "-e" "undef *Test​::Harness​::Switches; test_harness(0\, 'inc'\, 'blib/lib'\, 'blib/arch')" t/mocked.t t/unmocked.t Subroutine module_filename redefined at lib/Foo/PreLoaded.pm line 10. t/mocked.t .... ok t/unmocked.t .. Dubious\, test returned 2 (wstat 512\, 0x200) No subtests run

Test Summary Report

t/unmocked.t (Wstat​: 512 Tests​: 0 Failed​: 0)   Non-zero exit status​: 2   Parse errors​: No plan found in TAP output Files=2\, Tests=14\, 0 wallclock secs ( 0.03 usr 0.00 sys + 0.07 cusr 0.01 csys = 0.11 CPU) Result​: FAIL Can't locate URI.pm in @​INC (you may need to install the URI module) (@​INC contains​: lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/mocked-0.09/inc /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/mocked-0.09/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/mocked-0.09/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Uplevel-0.24/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Uplevel-0.24/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Exception-0.32/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Exception-0.32/blib/arch /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/lib/site_perl/5.21.3/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/lib/site_perl/5.21.3 /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/lib/5.21.3/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/lib/5.21.3 .) at (eval 6) line 2. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t/lib/Foo/UsingUnmocked.pm line 14. Compilation failed in require at (eval 5) line 2. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t/unmocked.t line 10. # Looks like your test exited with 2 before it could output anything. Failed 1/2 test programs. 0/14 subtests failed. make​: *** [test_dynamic] Error 2

MISSING PREREQUISITES​:

It was observed that the test suite seem to fail without these modules​:

URI

As such\, adding the prerequisite module(s) to 'PREREQ_PM' in your Makefile.PL should solve this problem. For example​:

WriteMakefile(   AUTHOR => 'LUKEC (cpanplus-info@​lists.sf.net)'\,   ... # other information   PREREQ_PM => {   'URI' => '0'\, # or a minimum working version   } );

Thanks! :-)

PREREQUISITES​:

Here is a list of prerequisites you specified and versions we managed to load​:

  Module Name Have Want   ExtUtils​::MakeMaker 6.98 0   Test​::Exception 0.32 0   Test​::More 1.001003 0.42

Perl module toolchain versions installed​:   Module Name Have   CPANPLUS 0.9152   CPANPLUS​::Dist​::Build 0.78   Cwd 3.49   ExtUtils​::CBuilder 0.280216   ExtUtils​::Command 1.18   ExtUtils​::Install 1.68   ExtUtils​::MakeMaker 6.98   ExtUtils​::Manifest 1.64   ExtUtils​::ParseXS 3.25   File​::Spec 3.49   Module​::Build 0.4206   Pod​::Parser 1.62   Pod​::Simple 3.28   Test​::Harness 3.32   Test​::More 1.001003   version 0.9908

******************************** NOTE ******************************** The comments above are created mechanically\, possibly without manual checking by the sender. As there are many people performing automatic tests on each upload to CPAN\, it is likely that you will receive identical messages about the same problem.

If you believe that the message is mistaken\, please reply to the first one with correction and/or additional informations\, and do not take it personally. We appreciate your patience. :) **********************************************************************

Additional comments​:

This report was machine-generated by CPANPLUS​::Dist​::YACSmoke 0.90.

ENVIRONMENT AND OTHER CONTEXT

Environment variables​:

  AUTOMATED_TESTING = 1   LANG = en_US.UTF-8   NONINTERACTIVE_TESTING = 1   PATH = /home/khw/bin​:/home/khw/perl5/perlbrew/bin​:/home/khw/print/bin​:/bin​:/usr/local/sbin​:/usr/local/bin​:/usr/sbin​:/usr/bin​:/sbin​:/usr/games​:/usr/local/games​:/home/khw/iands/www​:/home/khw/cxoffice/bin   PERL5LIB = :/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Uplevel-0.24/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Uplevel-0.24/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Exception-0.32/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Exception-0.32/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/mocked-0.09/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/mocked-0.09/blib/arch   PERL5OPT =   PERL5_CPANPLUS_BASE = /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59   PERL5_CPANPLUS_IS_RUNNING = 16766   PERL5_CPANPLUS_IS_VERSION = 0.9152   PERL5_YACSMOKE_BASE = /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59   PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL = --defaultdeps   PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT = 1   PERL_POD_PEDANTIC = 1   SHELL = /bin/ksh   TERM = xterm

Perl special variables (and OS-specific diagnostics\, for MSWin32)​:

  Perl​: $^X = /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/bin/perl   UID​: $\< = 1000   EUID​: $> = 1000   GID​: $( = 1000 4 24 27 30 46 112 124 1000   EGID​: $) = 1000 4 24 27 30 46 112 124 1000

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Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 21 subversion 3) configuration​:   Commit id​: 9cb534b0976ca3e9641369f65ad8153e73b586d5   Platform​:   osname=linux\, osvers=3.13.0-32-generic\, archname=x86_64-linux-thread-multi   uname='linux khw 3.13.0-32-generic #57-ubuntu smp tue jul 15 03​:51​:08 utc 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 gnulinux '   config_args='-des -Dusedevel -Uversiononly -Dusethreads -Dman1dir=none -Dman3dir=none -Dprefix=/home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg'   hint=recommended\, useposix=true\, d_sigaction=define   useithreads=define\, usemultiplicity=define   use64bitint=define\, use64bitall=define\, uselongdouble=undef   usemymalloc=n\, bincompat5005=undef   Compiler​:   cc='cc'\, ccflags ='-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -fwrapv -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fstack-protector -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64'\,   optimize='-O2'\,   cppflags='-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -fwrapv -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fstack-protector -I/usr/local/include'   ccversion=''\, gccversion='4.8.2'\, gccosandvers=''   intsize=4\, longsize=8\, ptrsize=8\, doublesize=8\, byteorder=12345678   d_longlong=define\, longlongsize=8\, d_longdbl=define\, longdblsize=16   ivtype='long'\, ivsize=8\, nvtype='double'\, nvsize=8\, Off_t='off_t'\, lseeksize=8   alignbytes=8\, prototype=define   Linker and Libraries​:   ld='cc'\, ldflags =' -fstack-protector -L/usr/local/lib'   libpth=/usr/local/lib /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/include-fixed /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu /usr/lib /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu /lib/../lib /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu /usr/lib/../lib /lib   libs=-lnsl -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread -lc   perllibs=-lnsl -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread -lc   libc=libc-2.19.so\, so=so\, useshrplib=false\, libperl=libperl.a   gnulibc_version='2.19'   Dynamic Linking​:   dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs\, dlext=so\, d_dlsymun=undef\, ccdlflags='-Wl\,-E'   cccdlflags='-fPIC'\, lddlflags='-shared -O2 -L/usr/local/lib -fstack-protector'

Characteristics of this binary (from libperl)​:   Compile-time options​: HAS_TIMES MULTIPLICITY PERLIO_LAYERS   PERL_DONT_CREATE_GVSV   PERL_HASH_FUNC_ONE_AT_A_TIME_HARD   PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT PERL_MALLOC_WRAP   PERL_NEW_COPY_ON_WRITE PERL_PRESERVE_IVUV   PERL_USE_DEVEL USE_64_BIT_ALL USE_64_BIT_INT   USE_ITHREADS USE_LARGE_FILES USE_LOCALE   USE_LOCALE_COLLATE USE_LOCALE_CTYPE   USE_LOCALE_NUMERIC USE_LOCALE_TIME USE_PERLIO   USE_PERL_ATOF USE_REENTRANT_API   Built under linux   Compiled at Aug 4 2014 12​:13​:34   %ENV​:   PERL5LIB="​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Uplevel-0.24/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Uplevel-0.24/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Exception-0.32/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Exception-0.32/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/mocked-0.09/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/mocked-0.09/blib/arch"   PERL5OPT=""   PERL5_CPANPLUS_BASE="/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59"   PERL5_CPANPLUS_IS_RUNNING="16766"   PERL5_CPANPLUS_IS_VERSION="0.9152"   PERL5_YACSMOKE_BASE="/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59"   PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL="--defaultdeps"   PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT="1"   PERL_POD_PEDANTIC="1"   @​INC​:   /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Uplevel-0.24/blib/lib   /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Uplevel-0.24/blib/arch   /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Exception-0.32/blib/lib   /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Exception-0.32/blib/arch   /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/mocked-0.09/blib/lib   /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/mocked-0.09/blib/arch   /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/lib/site_perl/5.21.3/x86_64-linux-thread-multi   /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/lib/site_perl/5.21.3   /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/lib/5.21.3/x86_64-linux-thread-multi   /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/lib/5.21.3   .

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @khwilliamson

From​: khw@​example.com (Karl Williamson) X-Test-Reporter-Distfile​: MONS/uni-perl-0.92.tar.gz X-Test-Reporter-Perl​: v5.21.3 Subject​: FAIL uni-perl-0.92 x86_64-linux-thread-multi 3.13.0-32-generic Report​: This distribution has been tested as part of the CPAN Testers project\, supporting the Perl programming language. See http​://wiki.cpantesters.org/ for more information or email questions to cpan-testers-discuss@​perl.org

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Dear Mons Anderson\,

This is a computer-generated error report created automatically by CPANPLUS\, version 0.9152. Testers personal comments may appear at the end of this report.

Thank you for uploading your work to CPAN. However\, it appears that there were some problems testing your distribution.

TEST RESULTS​:

Below is the error stack from stage 'make test'​:

PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/bin/perl "-MExtUtils​::Command​::MM" "-MTest​::Harness" "-e" "undef *Test​::Harness​::Switches; test_harness(0\, 'blib/lib'\, 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/00-load.t ....... ok # Testing uni​::perl 0.92\, Perl 5.021003\, /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/bin/perl

# Failed test 'strict works' # at t/01-tests.t line 10. # 'Variable "$zzz" has not been declared at (eval 6) line 1. # ' # doesn't match '(?^u​:Global symbol "\$zzz" requires explicit package)' # Looks like you failed 1 test of 11. t/01-tests.t ...... Dubious\, test returned 1 (wstat 256\, 0x100) Failed 1/11 subtests t/02-carp.t ....... ok t/03-ru.t ......... ok # /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/uni-perl-0.92/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/uni-perl-0.92/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/ExtUtils-Depends-0.309/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/ExtUtils-Depends-0.309/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/B-Hooks-OP-Check-0.19/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/B-Hooks-OP-Check-0.19/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Devel-Hide-0.0009/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Devel-Hide-0.0009/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Module-Runtime-0.014/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Module-Runtime-0.014/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Try-Tiny-0.22/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Try-Tiny-0.22/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Fatal-0.013/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Fatal-0.013/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Requires-0.08/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Requires-0.08/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Module-Implementation-0.07/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Module-Implementation-0.07/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Exporter-Progressive-0.001011/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Exporter-Progressive-0.001011/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Variable-Magic-0.53/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Variable-Magic-0.53/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/B-Hooks-EndOfScope-0.13/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/B-Hooks-EndOfScope-0.13/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Name-0.07/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Name-0.07/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Devel-Declare-0.006016/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Devel-Declare-0.006016/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Lexical-Alias-0.04/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Lexical-Alias-0.04/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/lib-abs-0.93/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/lib-abs-0.93/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-If-0.01/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-If-0.01/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/ExtUtils-Depends-0.309/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/ExtUtils-Depends-0.309/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/B-Hooks-OP-Check-0.19/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/B-Hooks-OP-Check-0.19/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Devel-Hide-0.0009/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Devel-Hide-0.0009/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Module-Runtime-0.014/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Module-Runtime-0.014/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Try-Tiny-0.22/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Try-Tiny-0.22/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Fatal-0.013/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Fatal-0.013/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Requires-0.08/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Requires-0.08/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Module-Implementation-0.07/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Module-Implementation-0.07/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Exporter-Progressive-0.001011/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Exporter-Progressive-0.001011/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Variable-Magic-0.53/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Variable-Magic-0.53/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/B-Hooks-EndOfScope-0.13/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/B-Hooks-EndOfScope-0.13/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Name-0.07/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Name-0.07/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Devel-Declare-0.006016/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Devel-Declare-0.006016/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Lexical-Alias-0.04/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Lexical-Alias-0.04/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/lib-abs-0.93/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/lib-abs-0.93/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-If-0.01/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-If-0.01/blib/arch /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/uni-perl-0.92/blib/lib /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/uni-perl-0.92/blib/arch /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/lib/site_perl/5.21.3/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/lib/site_perl/5.21.3 /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/lib/5.21.3/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /home/khw/perl/cpansmoke_testperls/error_msg/perl-error_msg/lib/5.21.3 . t/04-warns.t ...... ok # Have no installed\, use fallback t/05-xd.t ......... ok t/06-dumper.t ..... ok t/pod-coverage.t .. skipped​: No POD coverage required t/pod.t ........... skipped​: Test​::Pod 1.22 required for testing POD

Test Summary Report

t/01-tests.t (Wstat​: 256 Tests​: 11 Failed​: 1)   Failed test​: 2   Non-zero exit status​: 1 Files=9\, Tests=114\, 1 wallclock secs ( 0.04 usr 0.01 sys + 0.24 cusr 0.06 csys = 0.35 CPU) Result​: FAIL Failed 1/9 test programs. 1/114 subtests failed. make​: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255

PREREQUISITES​:

Here is a list of prerequisites you specified and versions we managed to load​:

  Module Name Have Want   ExtUtils​::MakeMaker 6.98 0

Perl module toolchain versions installed​:   Module Name Have   CPANPLUS 0.9152   CPANPLUS​::Dist​::Build 0.78   Cwd 3.49   ExtUtils​::CBuilder 0.280216   ExtUtils​::Command 1.18   ExtUtils​::Install 1.68   ExtUtils​::MakeMaker 6.98   ExtUtils​::Manifest 1.64   ExtUtils​::ParseXS 3.25   File​::Spec 3.49   Module​::Build 0.4206   Pod​::Parser 1.62   Pod​::Simple 3.28   Test​::Harness 3.32   Test​::More 1.001003   version 0.9908

******************************** NOTE ******************************** The comments above are created mechanically\, possibly without manual checking by the sender. As there are many people performing automatic tests on each upload to CPAN\, it is likely that you will receive identical messages about the same problem.

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Additional comments​:

This report was machine-generated by CPANPLUS​::Dist​::YACSmoke 0.90.

ENVIRONMENT AND OTHER CONTEXT

Environment variables​:

  AUTOMATED_TESTING = 1   LANG = en_US.UTF-8   NONINTERACTIVE_TESTING = 1   PATH = /home/khw/bin​:/home/khw/perl5/perlbrew/bin​:/home/khw/print/bin​:/bin​:/usr/local/sbin​:/usr/local/bin​:/usr/sbin​:/usr/bin​:/sbin​:/usr/games​:/usr/local/games​:/home/khw/iands/www​:/home/khw/cxoffice/bin   PERL5LIB = :/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/ExtUtils-Depends-0.309/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/ExtUtils-Depends-0.309/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/B-Hooks-OP-Check-0.19/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/B-Hooks-OP-Check-0.19/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Devel-Hide-0.0009/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Devel-Hide-0.0009/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Module-Runtime-0.014/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Module-Runtime-0.014/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Try-Tiny-0.22/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Try-Tiny-0.22/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Fatal-0.013/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Fatal-0.013/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Requires-0.08/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-Requires-0.08/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Module-Implementation-0.07/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Module-Implementation-0.07/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Exporter-Progressive-0.001011/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Exporter-Progressive-0.001011/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Variable-Magic-0.53/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Variable-Magic-0.53/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/B-Hooks-EndOfScope-0.13/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/B-Hooks-EndOfScope-0.13/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Name-0.07/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Sub-Name-0.07/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Devel-Declare-0.006016/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Devel-Declare-0.006016/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Lexical-Alias-0.04/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Lexical-Alias-0.04/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/lib-abs-0.93/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/lib-abs-0.93/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-If-0.01/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/Test-If-0.01/blib/arch​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/uni-perl-0.92/blib/lib​:/var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59/.cpanplus/5.21.3/build/uni-perl-0.92/blib/arch   PERL5OPT =   PERL5_CPANPLUS_BASE = /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59   PERL5_CPANPLUS_IS_RUNNING = 14115   PERL5_CPANPLUS_IS_VERSION = 0.9152   PERL5_YACSMOKE_BASE = /var/tmp/qoNfVUnK59   PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL = --defaultdeps   PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT = 1   PERL_POD_PEDANTIC = 1   SHELL = /bin/ksh   TERM = xterm

Perl special variables (and OS-specific diagnostics\, for MSWin32)​:

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p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @khwilliamson

It appears that RT puts the attachments in the reverse order of what I said in the previous post

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @rjbs

* Karl Williamson via RT \perlbug\-followup@&#8203;perl\.org [2014-08-22T16​:10​:18]

I tried a CPAN smoke of changing this message. The high level results are attached as the first file.

If I look at the failures\, the ones which have the changed wording in their test output amount to 130 distinct distributions. The second attachment is an example of an expected failure there.

Sigh. I'm flashing back to when we added a period to Carp's output.

I would like to improve this error message\, but I think that if we do it by only updating the string\, we're going to suffer quite a bit.

This is something that could be governed by a pragma\, at least until such time as there is a better way to identify internal errors. Although I am not thrilled at a proliferation of pragmata for things such as this\, I think it may be better in the long run.

The down side is that now new users will only get the helpful error message if they have done 'use v5.24'\, or the like\, which is a pretty hefty down side.

Anybody have a great idea?

-- rjbs

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @cpansprout

On Mon Sep 15 15​:54​:34 2014\, perl.p5p@​rjbs.manxome.org wrote​:

* Karl Williamson via RT \perlbug\-followup@&#8203;perl\.org [2014-08- 22T16​:10​:18]

I tried a CPAN smoke of changing this message. The high level results are attached as the first file.

If I look at the failures\, the ones which have the changed wording in their test output amount to 130 distinct distributions. The second attachment is an example of an expected failure there.

Sigh. I'm flashing back to when we added a period to Carp's output.

I would like to improve this error message\, but I think that if we do it by only updating the string\, we're going to suffer quite a bit.

This is something that could be governed by a pragma\, at least until such time as there is a better way to identify internal errors. Although I am not thrilled at a proliferation of pragmata for things such as this\, I think it may be better in the long run.

The down side is that now new users will only get the helpful error message if they have done 'use v5.24'\, or the like\, which is a pretty hefty down side.

Anybody have a great idea?

I think I have an easy way out for now. Do what we did for ‘Can’t locate Rheubarbarum/Rheubarbarorum.pm in @​INC’. Simply add ‘(Did you forget to declare "my $rhubarb"?)’.

As for pragmata changing the wording of error messages\, no\, please let’s not go there.

eval { mumbo_jumbo() }; # What’s that in Latin? if ($@​ =~ /Old wording/ || $@​ =~ /New wording/ # Grrr! Some callbacks have ‘use 5.42’ ) {

What we really need are error codes\, though....

--

Father Chrysostomos

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @demerphq

On 16 September 2014 22​:48\, Father Chrysostomos via RT \< perlbug-followup@​perl.org> wrote​:

On Mon Sep 15 15​:54​:34 2014\, perl.p5p@​rjbs.manxome.org wrote​:

* Karl Williamson via RT \perlbug\-followup@&#8203;perl\.org [2014-08- 22T16​:10​:18]

I tried a CPAN smoke of changing this message. The high level results are attached as the first file.

If I look at the failures\, the ones which have the changed wording in their test output amount to 130 distinct distributions. The second attachment is an example of an expected failure there.

Sigh. I'm flashing back to when we added a period to Carp's output.

I would like to improve this error message\, but I think that if we do it by only updating the string\, we're going to suffer quite a bit.

This is something that could be governed by a pragma\, at least until such time as there is a better way to identify internal errors. Although I am not thrilled at a proliferation of pragmata for things such as this\, I think it may be better in the long run.

The down side is that now new users will only get the helpful error message if they have done 'use v5.24'\, or the like\, which is a pretty hefty down side.

Anybody have a great idea?

I think I have an easy way out for now. Do what we did for ‘Can’t locate Rheubarbarum/Rheubarbarorum.pm in @​INC’. Simply add ‘(Did you forget to declare "my $rhubarb"?)’.

As for pragmata changing the wording of error messages\, no\, please let’s not go there.

eval { mumbo_jumbo() }; # What’s that in Latin? if ($@​ =~ /Old wording/ || $@​ =~ /New wording/ # Grrr! Some callbacks have ‘use 5.42’ ) {

What we really need are error codes\, though....

I have long argued we should do this. It would allow us to localize error messages without making everyones life painful.

If we agreed that this would be nice to have I would work on it.

Yves

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @rjbs

* demerphq \demerphq@&#8203;gmail\.com [2014-09-16T17​:50​:23]

I have long argued we should do this. It would allow us to localize error messages without making everyones life painful.

If we agreed that this would be nice to have I would work on it.

This would be nice to have.

-- rjbs

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @demerphq

On 17 September 2014 00​:15\, Ricardo Signes \perl\.p5p@&#8203;rjbs\.manxome\.org wrote​:

* demerphq \demerphq@&#8203;gmail\.com [2014-09-16T17​:50​:23]

I have long argued we should do this. It would allow us to localize error messages without making everyones life painful.

If we agreed that this would be nice to have I would work on it.

This would be nice to have.

Cool. Then I will be happy to lend a hand to make it happen. If someone starts on this before I do please let me know!

Cheers\, yves

-- perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @cpansprout

On Tue Sep 16 15​:22​:46 2014\, demerphq wrote​:

On 17 September 2014 00​:15\, Ricardo Signes \perl\.p5p@&#8203;rjbs\.manxome\.org wrote​:

* demerphq \demerphq@&#8203;gmail\.com [2014-09-16T17​:50​:23]

I have long argued we should do this. It would allow us to localize error messages without making everyones life painful.

If we agreed that this would be nice to have I would work on it.

I think everyone agrees on that\, but not on how it should be done.

This would be nice to have.

But what do you think of my stopgap measure? (Global symbol "$custard" requires explicit package name (did you forget to declare "my $custard"?) at -e line 1.)

Cool. Then I will be happy to lend a hand to make it happen. If someone starts on this before I do please let me know!

I already have detailed plans as to how it should be done. I had planned to do it after lvalue references.

See ticket #122794. Let’s please move the discussion there.

--

Father Chrysostomos

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @karenetheridge

On Mon\, Sep 15\, 2014 at 06​:54​:08PM -0400\, Ricardo Signes wrote​:

Sigh. I'm flashing back to when we added a period to Carp's output.

I would like to improve this error message\, but I think that if we do it by only updating the string\, we're going to suffer quite a bit.

This is something that could be governed by a pragma\, at least until such time as there is a better way to identify internal errors. Although I am not thrilled at a proliferation of pragmata for things such as this\, I think it may be better in the long run.

pragma​: ew\, please let's not. better way to identify internal errors​: yes please! my mental image is something like $! and %! for system errors​: an integer code which stringifies (locale-aware) as needed\, so programs need only identify the error by its numeric code (and associated constant)\, not its stringification.

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @demerphq

On 17 September 2014 01​:01\, Father Chrysostomos via RT \< perlbug-followup@​perl.org> wrote​:

On Tue Sep 16 15​:22​:46 2014\, demerphq wrote​:

On 17 September 2014 00​:15\, Ricardo Signes \perl\.p5p@&#8203;rjbs\.manxome\.org wrote​:

* demerphq \demerphq@&#8203;gmail\.com [2014-09-16T17​:50​:23]

I have long argued we should do this. It would allow us to localize error messages without making everyones life painful.

If we agreed that this would be nice to have I would work on it.

I think everyone agrees on that\, but not on how it should be done.

Ok\, but below you say you have a plan. Which makes you "Stan\, the man with the plan". :-)

This would be nice to have.

But what do you think of my stopgap measure? (Global symbol "$custard" requires explicit package name (did you forget to declare "my $custard"?) at -e line 1.)

Cool. Then I will be happy to lend a hand to make it happen. If someone starts on this before I do please let me know!

I already have detailed plans as to how it should be done. I had planned to do it after lvalue references.

See ticket #122794. Let’s please move the discussion there.

Willdo. Looking forward to reading it and working with you to accomplish it.

Cheers\, Yves

-- perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @khwilliamson

On 09/16/2014 05​:01 PM\, Father Chrysostomos via RT wrote​:

But what do you think of my stopgap measure? (Global symbol "$custard" requires explicit package name (did you forget to declare "my $custard"?) at -e line 1.)

+1 to trial it

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @ap

* Father Chrysostomos via RT \perlbug\-followup@&#8203;perl\.org [2014-09-16 22​:50]​:

I think I have an easy way out for now. Do what we did for ‘Can’t locate Rheubarbarum/Rheubarbarorum.pm in @​INC’. Simply add ‘(Did you forget to declare "my $rhubarb"?)’.

Yes please! This sounds worth a shot.

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @cpansprout

On Thu Sep 18 18​:16​:49 2014\, aristotle wrote​:

* Father Chrysostomos via RT \perlbug\-followup@&#8203;perl\.org [2014-09-16 22​:50]​:

I think I have an easy way out for now. Do what we did for ‘Can’t locate Rheubarbarum/Rheubarbarorum.pm in @​INC’. Simply add ‘(Did you forget to declare "my $rhubarb"?)’.

Yes please! This sounds worth a shot.

Added in d8c6310a4f. This ticket is resolved. Let’s see how much of CPAN this breaks. :-)

--

Father Chrysostomos

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

@cpansprout - Status changed from 'open' to 'resolved'

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @khwilliamson

On 09/18/2014 11​:13 PM\, Father Chrysostomos via RT wrote​:

On Thu Sep 18 18​:16​:49 2014\, aristotle wrote​:

* Father Chrysostomos via RT \perlbug\-followup@&#8203;perl\.org [2014-09-16 22​:50]​:

I think I have an easy way out for now. Do what we did for ‘Can’t locate Rheubarbarum/Rheubarbarorum.pm in @​INC’. Simply add ‘(Did you forget to declare "my $rhubarb"?)’.

Yes please! This sounds worth a shot.

Added in d8c6310a4f. This ticket is resolved. Let’s see how much of CPAN this breaks. :-)

While you were off-list earlier this year\, we decided to avoid using blead as a CPAN smoker for things we suspect are likely to break it.

Andreas makes it look like it's easy to have these smokes\, almost like they are entirely automated. But they aren't fully so. Each breakage adds work for him\, and we shouldn't take his efforts for granted. His work is a significant contribution to the success of perl 5 development\, but he does it so well and mostly behind the scenes that it's easy to forget that it is a significant amount of work\, especially when there are breakages.

But we need to get CPAN smokes more easy to do. I tried one\, on this very issue\, and it took my recent\, fast PC more than a week to accomplish\, and I'm uncertain about the results. It's not an area that I have any expertise in\, and so would require too much effort for me to delve into.

Dromedary should be available to do cpan smokes\, but last I knew it didn't have enough spare disk space. Steffen said that was fixable\, but I don't know that it has happened yet.

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From perl5-porters@perl.org

Karl Williamson wrote​:

On 09/18/2014 11​:13 PM\, Father Chrysostomos via RT wrote​:

Added in d8c6310a4f. This ticket is resolved. Let's see how much of CPAN this breaks. :-)

While you were off-list earlier this year\, we decided to avoid using blead as a CPAN smoker for things we suspect are likely to break it.

I meant that last sentence solely as a joke. Even if this does break CPAN\, I think this change should still stay in.

Even if I had done a smoke first and found that Function​::Parameters\, Mouse\, Apache​::EmbeddedPerl​::Lite\, triceps\, Moose\, Parse​::Keyword\, Dancer\, lib-with-preamble\, DBIx​::VersionedSubs\, MooseX​::Method​::Signatures Acme​::use​::strict​::with​::pride\, Coat\, Config​::Vars and Padre are likely to break\, I would have applied it anyway.

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @karenetheridge

On Fri\, Sep 19\, 2014 at 10​:57​:54PM -0000\, Father Chrysostomos wrote​:

Karl Williamson wrote​:

On 09/18/2014 11​:13 PM\, Father Chrysostomos via RT wrote​:

Added in d8c6310a4f. This ticket is resolved. Let's see how much of CPAN this breaks. :-)

While you were off-list earlier this year\, we decided to avoid using blead as a CPAN smoker for things we suspect are likely to break it.

I meant that last sentence solely as a joke. Even if this does break CPAN\, I think this change should still stay in.

Even if I had done a smoke first and found that Function​::Parameters\, Mouse\, Apache​::EmbeddedPerl​::Lite\, triceps\, Moose\, Parse​::Keyword\, Dancer\, lib-with-preamble\, DBIx​::VersionedSubs\, MooseX​::Method​::Signatures Acme​::use​::strict​::with​::pride\, Coat\, Config​::Vars and Padre are likely to break\, I would have applied it anyway.

Moose has been fixed in versions 2.1212 and 2.1303-TRIAL. You have my permission to release 5.21.4 now.*

* this seems like a fun game. :)

p5pRT commented 10 years ago

From @andk

On Fri\, 19 Sep 2014 11​:04​:05 -0600\, Karl Williamson \public@&#8203;khwilliamson\.com said​:

  > On 09/18/2014 11​:13 PM\, Father Chrysostomos via RT wrote​:

On Thu Sep 18 18​:16​:49 2014\, aristotle wrote​:

* Father Chrysostomos via RT \perlbug\-followup@&#8203;perl\.org [2014-09-16 22​:50]​:

I think I have an easy way out for now. Do what we did for ‘Can’t locate Rheubarbarum/Rheubarbarorum.pm in @​INC’. Simply add ‘(Did you forget to declare "my $rhubarb"?)’.

Yes please! This sounds worth a shot.

Added in d8c6310a4f. This ticket is resolved. Let’s see how much of CPAN this breaks. :-)

  > While you were off-list earlier this year\, we decided to avoid using   > blead as a CPAN smoker for things we suspect are likely to break it.

  > Andreas makes it look like it's easy to have these smokes\, almost like   > they are entirely automated. But they aren't fully so. Each breakage   > adds work for him\, and we shouldn't take his efforts for granted. His   > work is a significant contribution to the success of perl 5   > development\, but he does it so well and mostly behind the scenes that   > it's easy to forget that it is a significant amount of work\,   > especially when there are breakages.

Thank you\, Karl\, for chiming in! But reality is​: at the moment *everything goes* as far as my statistics are concerned. Perl 5.21 is in such a bad shape with regard to smoking that I supposedly catch something from time to time only by pure luck.

I haven't given up and we had similar bad phases in previous bleadperl development\, so not everything is necessarily lost. FC usually has a sterling record of patching CPAN distros that break due to blead fixes\, so I endorse his breakages.

I still ask for everybody's best effort to not just try things out on trunk when there are chances to try thing out elsewhere. I also ask for maximum backwards compatibility when possible\, it will help to get an acceptable 5.22.0.

Thanks for listening\, please goto coding​:) -- andreas