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(1999.03.0087) Holinshed Chronicles #164

Open lcerrato opened 1 year ago

lcerrato commented 1 year ago

There is no information in this text header. I do not know the source edition. (Reads "later".) http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.03.0087 Was previously stored as:— //Renaissance/Holinshed/scotland/opensource/history.xml

There is info in here which suggests something earlier than 1808 was used but cannot tell if there is any inconsistency.

AlisonBabeu commented 1 year ago

hi @lcerrato so is this file on GitHub anywhere? My new laptop doesn't have the entire old CVS on it, and I was hoping to take a look at the file. I've been reading through the first few paragraphs of an 1808 edition here.

It also appears that in our version the text is having display issues, because in some cases it appears the side note summaries are interrupting sentences like in this text here: " Gathelus thus being aduanced by such honorable mariage, liued all the daies of his father The credit of this historie of Gathelus we leaue to the authors. Israel oppressed. in law Pharao Orus, in great honor."

lcerrato commented 1 year ago

@AlisonBabeu It is on the internal Tufts server only.

The way the marginalia is displayed is determined mostly by the markup, so you may want to view things in the XML reader to see if that is the source of the issue. The xml I saw preserved the marginalia at the end of the print line, which would be standard practice. (It makes for choppy reading, though.)

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Gathelus thus being aduanced by such honorable mariage, liued all the daies of his father

The credit of this historie of Gathelus we leaue to the authors. Israel oppressed.

in law Pharao Orus, in great honor. But after his deceasse, `

There is a notation in the header that is not found in the 1808 (I found it in a much earlier printing):— https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_First_and_Second_Volumes_of_Chronicl/ASFEAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0

lcerrato commented 1 year ago

@AlisonBabeu I've sent you a Dropbox invitation to my copy of this data. We should use that.

AlisonBabeu commented 1 year ago

hey @lcerrato so what was the notation. The one reason I had originally thought it was the 1808 edition was because it matches up in terms of page numbers, in the XML file the text starts on page 32 and ends on 653 and that is the same for the 1808 edition.

lcerrato commented 1 year ago

<titlePart>Gathered And Written In English By Raphaell Hollinshead; And Continued From 1571, To 1585, By Others. With A Table Of The Principall Particularities Herein Conteined. M. Pal. In Ari. histor&aelig; placeant nostrates ac peregrin&aelig;. </titlePart>

lcerrato commented 1 year ago

@AlisonBabeu I see that on the 1808 edition now — I had tried a content search and I think that the alternate spellings meant it did not appear. I agree that the 19th C edition is more likely, and if the pages correspond, that's great.

AlisonBabeu commented 1 year ago

Actually @lcerrato it looks like they have a copy of the original title page in the 1808 printing too (https://books.google.com/books?id=p14tbYK8Q3oC&pg=PA29#v=onepage&q&f=false), its a second title page right before the history, unless I am missing something.

AlisonBabeu commented 1 year ago

See @lcerrato great minds think alike.

lcerrato commented 1 year ago

Created companion issue in new repository

cwulfman commented 1 month ago

Holinshed's printing history in gnarly; see, e.g., https://doi.org/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199565757.013.0001