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How we can use annotations in For loops today in a backwards-compatible form
while waiting for OpenJDK 8:
http://code.google.com/p/jsr308-langtools/wiki/AnnotationsOnStatements
http://types.cs.washington.edu/jsr308/
Original comment by ryan.lam...@gmail.com
on 29 Oct 2012 at 6:33
I like #1, clearly #2 is beyond the scope of Aparapi as it requires a Java
language change. The Ateji guys (http://www.ateji.com/) tried to achieve #2
using a pre-processor stage, but this really does get you into the javac/IDE
toolchain business and that is hard.
As project lambda marches forward, I actually do think that #1 is 'almost'
unnecessary. I think that Parallel.forEach(range, SAMtype) where the
implementation of SAMtype would be your for loop body and range would define
the global range.
Even #1 is tricky at runtime without either a customized classloader with
bytecode re-writing or some APT trickery to transform the AST at compile time.
So my advice would be to converge with the project lambda guys and use the
lamda style.
If you look at the 'mock lambda' branch I have started playing with this.
Indeed there is a functioning Aparapi.forEach(range, SAMtype) style
implementation (JTP at present) working mandel example. I hope to have Lambda
to OpenCL working in a few weeks.
Gary
Original comment by frost.g...@gmail.com
on 29 Oct 2012 at 7:15
Gary,
A couple of things:
- I think the links I provided above touch on your thoughts briefly...adding
loop bodies as an inner class for a parameter. They have some arguments against
that approach, although the Lambdas approach may be cleaner. See
InParallel.reduce example. Their use of @ParallelAccumulator and
@Parallelizable almost identically mirrors the approach we've been discussing
offline.
- We can include JST-308 features by simply including the above linked
libraries into Aparapi.
- It is going to take a long time before we start using Java 7 full-time on our
projects, much less Java 8. But since we can get Aparapi approved, then we
could get features that are included in Aparapi approved as well.
Original comment by ryan.lam...@gmail.com
on 29 Oct 2012 at 9:24
Don't get me wrong I am a big fan of extending Annotations to include
annotations on arbitary statements or even on blocks, and would love to see it
(BTW I argued for this case with the Ateji guys to allow them to avoid
pre-processing).
Sadly I thought that the notion of annotating other than on fields/locals had
been dropped (at least for Java 8). Basically the classfile would need to be
changed substantially for this. Annotation info (in Attribute tables) are
attached to field references in the classfile. To annotate arbitrary code would
require being able to also add annotation information to method code attributes
as a 'side-table' (rather like exception tables).
I don't see the classfile changes being made to support this.
Original comment by frost.g...@gmail.com
on 29 Oct 2012 at 10:19
Okay, that's a bummer.
What do you think about having an annotation like this:
@Target({
ElementType.PARAMETER,
ElementType.FIELD,
ElementType.LOCAL_VARIABLE
})
@Retention(RetentionPolicy.RUNTIME)
public @interface Parallel {
}
Original comment by ryan.lam...@gmail.com
on 30 Oct 2012 at 12:26
After some additional research and clarifications about JSR-308, then I propose
implementing a Parallel.For and Parallel.ForEach similar to the code available
at:
http://www.cs.gmu.edu/~rcarver/cs475/Parallel.java
For comparison purposes, C# has had this kind of parallelism built-in since C#
4.0:
Parallel Programming in .NET
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd460693.aspx
Task Parallel Library (TPL)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd460717.aspx
Data Parallelism
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd537608.aspx
Task Parallelism
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd537609.aspx
Original comment by ryan.lam...@gmail.com
on 28 Nov 2012 at 1:30
Steven and I have been discussing this issue. We have another project that we
will be looking to integrate Aparapi, but would also like to just have access
to the parallelization aspect of Aparapi's API at some points, even if the code
is not Aparapi or GPU-friendly.
So, we're looking into creating the following without Lambdas as we need the
solution to use JDK 7:
Parallel.For()
Parallel.ForEach()
Then we're thinking about expanding this to include possibly the following:
Parallel.For(1DLoopStart, 1DLoopEnd, Kernel/LoopBody)
Parallel.For(1DLoopStart, 1DLoopEnd, 2DLoopStart, 2DLoopEnd, Kernel/LoopBody)
etc.
We've also thought about using the Fork/Join framework directly, but would like
to use Aparapi wrappers if possible.
Which brings up another point...Should we force Aparapi to require JDK 7 and
start using features such as the Fork/Join framework? We can obviously create
equally as parallel code by hand, but it's just a thought.
Original comment by ryan.lam...@gmail.com
on 30 Nov 2012 at 6:59
I like the Parallel.For() it maps pretty cleanly on the work that Eric Caspole
and myself have been looking at for Sumatra, and also, is fairly similar to the
API in the 'MockLambda' branch.
We might want to think how the 'lambda' receives it's identity (1D, 2D or 3D)
One way is to pass the id into the lambda (I like this ;) ) So (using the 1D
form)
Parallel.For (from, to, (int id)->{body uses id as they would getGlobalId() });
Another option is to pass an ID object into the lambda so it can be queried.
Parallel.For (from, to, (Id1D id)->{body uses id->getGlobalId() also
id->getGroupId() etc)
I must confess that we may end up using the Range type object (or may also wish
to support it!) allowing
Parallel.For (Range2D range, (Id2D id)->{body})
Where the actual range can be extracted from the the id
id->getRange()->getGlobalSize(0);
Gary
Original comment by frost.g...@gmail.com
on 1 Dec 2012 at 1:04
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
ryan.lam...@gmail.com
on 29 Oct 2012 at 6:30