PingvinOpenTag / LTAscetic

Open lasertag project
http://armada.ltascet.com
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Pleases add a part list #4

Closed ghost closed 9 years ago

ghost commented 9 years ago

Id made a part list for the LTAscetic 3.1 release.

Part list for de.mouser (Use at your own Risk and please check !) If checked please add it to the Readme.md

LTA Motherboard (3.1) http://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=8740157a16

LTA Ir Sensor (3.1)

http://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=37c73c7856

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

http://ru.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=TDA7052AT%2fN2%2c112virtualkey66800000virtualkey771-TDA7052ATN2112

It's SMD! Need DIP case!

ghost commented 9 years ago

I cant find the TDA7052 on Mouser as DIP. We may need another Distributer for our parts. Or we change the PCB.

Or could i use a similiar IC ? Id found the NJM386 IC. Its similiar, has more features, we could change the volume over a gain pin. And it has output power of 1 Watts.

http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/294/NJM386_E-232003.pdf

I would prefer to use mouser because mouser ships worldwide and is very cheap in conclusion to my known distributors.

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

Ascet-configurator port from PC to Android http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5ikXYz3mhE

Upload sounds use configurator on Android http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW9ozMrs18M&feature=youtu.be

ghost commented 9 years ago

Could we use the NJM386 IC ? Its avaible as DIP. Or we use the SMD edition of the NJM386 IC. You would need to change the pcb if we use the SMD edition.

What should we do ?

ghost commented 9 years ago

One Question, about the LCD-universal-Modul. What data is owned by the Q1-BC847 and U1-MC74HC595AD (I only need the case type). I will publish some more part lists if im ready.

Could you please send me a fix of the Bluetooth modul pcb DIPTrace_files ? I cant read the DIPTrace_files without problems. Part 1-2, i see something dont readable for me, my pc cant decode the russian language, i think. screenshot 3

Thanks in Advance

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

And where do NJM386 IC? It's a completely different chip, as I understand it. Or it is a complete analog TDA7052A?

Сhange the pcb can by anything, a matter of expediency. I have no such need.

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

BC847 has the same body as irlml2502 - SOT-23 (SMD). 74HC595D - SOIC-16 (SMD)

ghost commented 9 years ago

Id have problems ordering the Matherboard pcbs, could you export the gerber files as GBR files please ?

Freepcb wont let me do that. Thanks in Advance.

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

Complexity of translation. I do not understand - from what program you want to export Gerber files? And what of the PCB?

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

I'd like to know more about your hardware. Where to order the production of printed circuit boards? Which configuration using ascetic? Few photos, video ... Could bring some joy to the old man?

ghost commented 9 years ago

Id ordered my pcbs at www.dirtypcbs.com. They are not as dirty as id thought. I will post pictures if id received them, and id built them. Yes i could send some joy to the old man :). But first i need to receive them.

I have following problems currently ordering the pcbs.

I need following types of data

Gerber file extension Layer GTO Top Silkscreen (text) GTS Top Soldermask (the 'green' stuff) GTL Top Copper (conducting layer) GBL Bottom Copper GBS Bottom Soldermask GBO Bottom Silkscreen GML/GKO/GBR* Board Outline* TXT Routing and Drill (the holes and slots)

First attempt was to convert the existing files to the needed files. Id fail....

At this moment i redesign the Board in eagle; They also can use brd files. The problem is that i will need to have this files in this night. I think i will have a long night....

ghost commented 9 years ago

WARNING: Id found a lot of Erros, in the mouser part-list. Mouser did deledt some product pages, im not sure why.... Please DO NOT USE IT.... I need to fix that problems.... So many problems this night.... ARGH

ghost commented 9 years ago

Id redesigned the IR_Sensor in Eagle, i think this new design looks better. And its a little bit cheaper to produce. [UPDATE] Added LCD_Shield files for eagle. Please report if bib. is needed. http://www.file-upload.net/download-10147218/01_27_15_01_2015.zip.html

ghost commented 9 years ago

UPDATE: My new redesigned layout: Do you think its ok ? Sorry im under stress.... I need to update the part lists.... WARNING the Download button on the file-ulpload sites look like this. http://www.file-upload.net/images/downbutton2.gif Please be careful to not install mess, because pressing the WRONG Download button, everything of my files are NO EXE Files.

Schematics

http://www.file-upload.net/download-10147224/IR_Sensor.pdf.html http://www.file-upload.net/download-10147227/LCD_Shield.pdf.html

IR_SENSOR

http://dirtypcbs.com/order_images/13d093c9d5b35f3950eb14d471d986d7-4080_bottom.png http://dirtypcbs.com/order_images/13d093c9d5b35f3950eb14d471d986d7-4080_top.png

LCD_UNI....

http://dirtypcbs.com/order_images/13d093c9d5b35f3950eb14d471d986d7-4081_bottom.png http://dirtypcbs.com/order_images/13d093c9d5b35f3950eb14d471d986d7-4081_top.png

Maybe you can see some mistakes i may did. I hope you can help me ;O.

Good Night, i think its enough for me today....

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

FreePCB perfectly formed Gerber files! Only for some reason he gives them another extension. Do not worry, you can rename. Gerber files are in the repository. I did not do the Silks, only Copper, Soldermask, Board Outline and Drill layers.

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

What you do not like my version of the LCD module? http://raw.githubusercontent.com/PingvinOpenTag/LTAscetic/master/release_2%28LCD,Joystck,TouchMemory,Reload,Antichiter,IrPowerControl,BattaryControl%29/hardware/pcb/lcd_shield_smd_layout.jpeg

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

Blame !!! Gerber files LCD module is not in the repository 2 release! I mast to fix it!

I have Gerber files on all PCB that are laid out in the repository!

Please forgive for carelessness! Here gerber for controller board 3.1 https://yadi.sk/d/MtkCirEFdykPJ

But they are in the repository!

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

GERBER for LCD module release 2. Single-layer board. https://yadi.sk/d/NVg_-IIMdykhL

Gerber files are created in FreePCB very easily.

File->Generate CAM files...

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

Why do you have such thin tracks on the boards?

ghost commented 9 years ago

Thanks for your gerber Files. And a HUGE thanks for the tipp to rename the files. I will try it out now. I like your LCD_Shield Design ! But id thought i have to redesign everything in eagle. Id also started last night to redesign the Matherboard in eagle. I like more my IR_Sensor Design. I think it will be easier to wire to the head and shoulders.

Why such thin tracks ?; I do not know, id thought it will be enough thick. There is no really reason why id maked it as thin as it is.

ghost commented 9 years ago

Worked. Thank you ! Suuuch much thanks !

Cant await when they become shipped ;D

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

So you do not have workers PCB an "Аscetic"? But you wrote that using them together with your friends! What I do not understand ...

ghost commented 9 years ago

Now i do not understand you. But i think I know what you do not understand.

I let my pcbs produce by www.dirtypcbs.com. I and my friends already use LTAscetic, but dirty built on Breadboards. So id decided to produce everything as pcb. Yes my friends pay money to me, i build the Lasertag weapons for them.

Im not sure what you did not understand. Sorry. And what do you mean with workers ? Workes pay an Ascetic ?!? Huh ?

Im a Student in the 11. class. Just to say it. I do not own a company. If you thought i want to sell it worldwide or other such things, I would not do it.

If you interessted to see where im going to school. http://www.lietz-nordsee-internat.de/

We have some great forests and dunes there.

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

It's all translator! "рабочая плата" (workers, functioning PCB) not "заработная плата" (Wages)

I wrote verbatim "Так у Вас нет рабочих плат Аскета? " And the correct translation would be "So you do not have workers (functioning) PCB an ascetic?" Here's a lesson in linguistics turned out!

Once again - the project is absolutely free! If anyone can make money on it - very good!

ghost commented 9 years ago

They now produce the pcbs. Thanks for your help. I could send you 10 pcbs of the Matherboard, i have 100 pieces when they arrive. (That does not include electrical parts). I will update the part list this week. There are some wrong items on it.

I think we should create a Scoring Utility for Android. I think it would be awesome to see Scores on a huge TV Screen using a Android TV Settop-Box.

Could you share your Code of your Android-APP ? And could you make a Documentary how the Bluetooth/Serial commands work (A list would be enough) ?

Could i add lives or ammo to somebody over Bluetooth ? Could we add a gamemode type like Capture of the Hill or Capture the Flag ? First the code should be cleaned up ! What happend with Intensitiveclod ? Is he/she already ready ? Did he/she already started ?

ghost commented 9 years ago

Part list updated

B45196H2476M309 is now knowed as T491C476M010AT. That was the problem.

!"§$%& Not updated, id pressed delete....

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

Thanks for the offer, but I order the board in a nearby town - Novosibirsk. I order as empty board and partially assembled (soldered resistors and capacitors on one side). Obtained cheaply - at today's exchange rate of one part of the cost of the board has collected about 2 euros. A fully assembled printed circuit board (he soldered transistors, diodes, socket for the amplifier and controller) - about 5-6 euros at today's exchange rate. How much you pay?

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

Utility to Androd "Аscetic-сonfigurator LITE" in the http://sourceforge.net/projects/ascetconfigurat/files/Ascet-configurator/Android_version/ I created it in App Inventor. The source code that I ported from the PC I'll post.

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

Bluetooth for you while you can adjust the parameters of the game, which will be the player after the start of the game (number of rounds, the number of clips, life, color team, player ID, etc.) During the game, nothing to configure the tablet while it is impossible, as the channel takes a bandana.

But I have already said that work on more interesting system, when the tag and bandana will be connected to your tablet or smartphone via Bluetooth. Already a tablet or smartphone can transmit data via WiFi and cellular communication. And on the local server and the remote via the Internet.

But we have to work on it, I'm also just a man, and not God! Both my family and work, not just a hobby. Therefore, open the project, I hope to help.

ghost commented 9 years ago

Wow your pcbs in Russia are very cheap, i have to pay c.a 30 Euros for Display,PCBs(LCD + Matherboard) and Electtronics for the pcbs. 15 Euro Electronics for the Matherboard 4.56 Euro Electronics for the IR Sensor c.a 5 Euro Electronics for the LCD_Shield c.a 10 Euro for the Display. 7 Euro for the pcbs.

Now i really think germany is too expansive. Made in Germany, made my day....

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

As for the teams - open the file

https://github.com/PingvinOpenTag/LTAscetic/blob/master/release_3_1(SMD%2Cfix_flesh_led_bag%2Cfirmware_up_to_56000Hz_IR_F0)/firmware/LTAscet_3_1_Atmega32/source/LTAscet_blue_stop_isr_up_to_56000HZ_IR_F0/commands.h

then describes all the commands that are understood Ascet.

Of course it is necessary to write a description, but once all the time lacking.

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

So after the ruble has fallen off sanctions! Therefore, if you convert to the euro, we all really cheap! And the first order is always more expensive because of the pre-production. Want, I will inquire the price on a partially assembled motherboard? Can and sensors, but I ordered a kit, with collating chit will be more expensive, but can and learn about them.

ghost commented 9 years ago

Sorry, but i dont understand you

--> Want, I will inquire the account on a partially assembled motherboard? Can and sensors, but I ordered a kit, with collating chit will be more expensive, but Mogi and learn about them. <--

Another question, the command line is directly over serial avaible ?

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

I can ask to me to issue an invoice for the production of printed circuit boards. For comparison.

ghost commented 9 years ago

Ah ok. Thx, i think id understood you. Can you give me access to your joomla site ? I would like start to write Documentary; how to use LTAscetic e.t.c.

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

OK! True, I still end up with a template is not defined.

Went to create a user. Send your password by email.

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

I sent a letter to check the mail.

ghost commented 9 years ago

Thanks.Could you please put the Joomla GUI into english ?I cant read everything Oo-------- Originalnachricht --------Betreff: Re: [LTAscetic] Pleases add a part list (#4)Von: Pingvin An: PingvinOpenTag/LTAscetic Cc: Jason I sent a letter to check the mail.

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ghost commented 9 years ago

Soory works. Id changed my local browser language to russian to be able to read russian. Works now

ghost commented 9 years ago

Id found sth wrong, LTAscetic Matherboard 3_1 pcb files.

C1-C2 has package C1206thermal but a C0603thermal footprint.

R2-R4 has package C1206thermal but a C0603thermal footprint. R6-9 has package C1206thermal but a C0603thermal. R10 - R12 has package C1206thermal but a C0603thermal footprint. R21 has package C1206thermal but a C0603thermal footprint. R37 has package C1206thermal but a C0603thermal footprint.

X1 has no package on pcb files, what package is needed ?

Z1-4 has no package on pcb files, what package is needed ?

C11 has no package on pcb files, what package is needed ? C15 is this part correct ? http://www.mouser.de/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=EEE-FK1A102Pvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-EEE-FK1A102P C16 has no package on pcb files, what package is needed ? C28 has no package on pcb files, what package is needed ? C33 has no package on pcb files, what package is needed ?

Thanks in Advance.

ghost commented 9 years ago

What do yo mean with that ? Terminal for connecting the reader dongle TouchMemory («pill"), or other devices that use 1-wire interface.

For what do i need this TouchMemory ?

ghost commented 9 years ago

Sorry, id found ever info for the packages on your homepage. The DIPTrace files should be changed to the correct packages !!! This is very baffling ! And you have some russian language in your English article.

->U3 1 24LC512,512 Кбит (64К x 8) SEEPROM, I2C 400 КГц, 2.5- 5.5 V, SOIC-8

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

What do yo mean with that ? Terminal for connecting the reader dongle TouchMemory («pill"), or other devices that use 1-wire interface.

For what do i need this TouchMemory ?

That players could not start the game itself, but only the referee can start the game. Only the referee can change the settings tag. But with the advent of remote and settings for Bluetooth is no longer relevant.

PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

The DIPTrace files should be changed to the correct packages !!!

This is very baffling !

LTAscetic Matherboard 3_1 pcb is not done in DipTaсe, can you mean FreePCB?

ghost commented 9 years ago

Sorry, yes i mean freepcb.-------- Originalnachricht --------Betreff: Re: [LTAscetic] Pleases add a part list (#4)Von: Pingvin An: PingvinOpenTag/LTAscetic Cc: Jason The DIPTrace files should be changed to the correct packages !!!

This is very baffling !

LTAscetic Matherboard 3_1 pcb is not done in DipTaсe, can you mean FreePCB?

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ghost commented 9 years ago

How do i start a game ?-------- Originalnachricht --------Betreff: Re: [LTAscetic] Pleases add a part list (#4)Von: Pingvin An: PingvinOpenTag/LTAscetic Cc: Jason The DIPTrace files should be changed to the correct packages !!!

This is very baffling !

LTAscetic Matherboard 3_1 pcb is not done in DipTaсe, can you mean FreePCB?

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PingvinOpenTag commented 9 years ago

How do i start a game ?

If the key Touch Memory is not stored in memory, simply press "reload". If recorded - Touch Memory key attaching to the reader.