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colony #420

Closed planteome-user closed 9 years ago

planteome-user commented 12 years ago

The description of moss phenotypes in many cases is at the level of (clonal) colony instead of single plant (which is IMO hard to define in this case). E.g. people measure colony area, diameter, branching etc. I want to annotate phenotypes using the EQ model by linking to PATO terms.

Is this something that belongs in PO? I'm not clear on were to put this in PO. I couldn't find a specific OBO ontology that covers the term in a useful way for plant science. As I see it, it could be done by introduction of terms describing either growth forms/habits or plant populations. For the description of mutant phenotypes at the colony level I would prefer the latter.

Best, Daniel

Reported by: couchbandit

Original Ticket: obo/plant-ontology-po-term-requests/420

planteome-user commented 12 years ago

Dennis and I have talked about this problem a little bit for other plants, thinking of terms like ramet and genet. I don't know if those terms are used much in mosses.

One thing we could do is add colony (or clonal colony) and genet as synonyms of whole plant.

In moss, I think you could refer to each unit of the colony as a gametophore, which is a shoot system. Ramet could be added as a synonym of gametophyre

I think it might work to add ramet as a broad synonym to whole plant and to gametophore, but ramet is trickey, because it could be either a whole plant or a part of a plant. Maybe better to add it as a related synonym to whole plant.

I also think it would be worth exploring new terms for plant growth forms, either as part of PATO or as an extension to the PO.

Original comment by: rlwalls2008

planteome-user commented 12 years ago

Great! I didn't know the terms genet and ramet so far, but what you propose makes perfect sense.

This means you will add : "whole plant" synonym: "colony", "clonal colony", "genet"

"gametophore" synonym: "ramet"

"whole plant" related synonym: "ramet"

IMHO plant growth/life forms should be best integrated as an extension to PO.

Original comment by: couchbandit

planteome-user commented 12 years ago

Added the following synonyms:

whole plant (PO:0000003): colony (related), clonal colony (related), genet (broad), ramet (broad)

gametophore (PO:0030018): ramet (broad)

Original comment by: rlwalls2008

planteome-user commented 12 years ago

Original comment by: rlwalls2008