logged out due to Outdated server! [v0.15.0.0 alpha]

[fableman73]

I think App store updated my kidz minecraft client and now they can't access my server :(

Running Raspberry Pi I have tried to: wget -q -O - http://get.pocketmine.net/ | bash -s – -v development and PocketMine-MP_1.6dev-27_ef8227a0_API-2.0.0.phar PocketMine-MP.phar

Still logged out due to Outdated server!

See logfile:

@minecraft:~ $ ./start.sh [14:28:13] [Server thread/INFO]: Loading pocketmine.yml... [14:28:13] [Server thread/INFO]: Loading server properties... [14:28:13] [Server thread/INFO]: Selected English (eng) as the base language [14:28:13] [Server thread/INFO]: Starting Minecraft: PE server version v0.15.0.0 alpha [14:28:14] [Server thread/INFO]: Starting remote control listener [14:28:14] [Server thread/INFO]: RCON running on 0.0.0.0:19132 [14:28:14] [Server thread/INFO]: Opening server on 0.0.0.0:19132 [14:28:14] [Server thread/INFO]: This server is running PocketMine-MP version 1.6dev "[REDACTED]" (API 2.0.0) [14:28:14] [Server thread/INFO]: PocketMine-MP is distributed under the LGPL License [14:28:14] [Server thread/INFO]: Loading recipes... [14:28:15] [Server thread/INFO]: Loading SpawnWithItems v2.1 [14:28:15] [Server thread/INFO]: [SpawnWithItems] Loading SpawnWithItems v2.0 by LDX... [14:28:15] [Server thread/INFO]: Preparing level "world" [14:28:15] [Server thread/INFO]: Enabling SpawnWithItems v2.1 [14:28:15] [Server thread/INFO]: [SpawnWithItems] Enabling SpawnWithItems... [14:28:16] [Server thread/INFO]: Starting GS4 status listener [14:28:16] [Server thread/INFO]: Setting query port to 19132 [14:28:16] [Server thread/INFO]: Query running on 0.0.0.0:19132 [14:28:16] [Server thread/INFO]: Default game type: Survival Mode

[14:29:50] [Server thread/INFO]: Alex[/10.0.100.236:19132] logged out due to Outdated server! [14:29:59] [Server thread/INFO]: Alex[/10.0.100.236:19132] logged out due to Outdated server! [14:30:29] [Server thread/INFO]: Alex[/10.0.100.236:19132] logged out due to Outdated server!

[robske110]

Use the latest version of pocketmine

[fableman73]

If you read my message you can see I have the latest version installed.

[fableman73]

I guess Minecraft PE will stop for more players then just apple users after theyt push out the changes of there client to Android and soo on.

[ClockProgramming]

The lastest version from app store 0.15.6

Pocketmine version 0.15.0

Unfornately, no

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I guess Minecraft PE will stop for more players then just apple users after theyt push out the changes of there client to Android and soo on.

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[fableman73]

all worked fine before the client update on the ipad a few days ago.

I guess they changed something in the protocol, and PocketMine need to be updated to a newer version.

[robske110]

You can either ... edit the pocketmine source to accept protocol 81. (If you need help here feel free to contact me) or use https://github.com/ClearSkyTeam/ClearSky (Just replace your PocketMine-MP.phar with http://robskebueba.no-ip.biz/CSPhar.php?type=1&branch=php7 ) [As you run on a RasperryPi i don't recommend Genisys, but you can use that too]. And by the way: This project is unofficially dead. We do not know if this repo will receive a commit EVER again.

[ClockProgramming]

0.15.4 had protocol changes

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You can either ... edit the pocketmine source to accept protocol 81. (If you need help here feel free to contact me) or use https://github.com/ClearSkyTeam/ClearSky (Just replace your PocketMine-MP.phar with http://robskebueba.no-ip.biz/ CSPhar.php?type=1&branch=php7 ). And by the way: This project is unofficially dead. We do not know if this repo will receive a commit EVER again.

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[robske110]

i know..

[ZackLuvsGamez]

how do i get the 0.15 phar with php7?

[robske110]

http://robskebueba.no-ip.biz/CSPhar.php?type=1&branch=php7 there or somewhere on genisys 0.15.4+ is currently not supported by pockemtine

[fableman73]

Thank you robske110. ClearSky worked perfect. (even if it is a dev version at this point with this fix) I hade to use the php hardcoded for ARM to get the php7 working on Raspberry Pi from this project.

[Survingo]

@robske110 There's a much better way to update the version instead of advertising. Because 0.15.4 and 0.15.6 had no protocol changes (@GlitchPlayer) can you update PocketMine by yourself by google searching "survingo update 0.15.4.0 0.15.6 site:forums.pocketmine.net"

[ClockProgramming]

@Survingo Lel, I do not use pocketmine anymore. Due to the fact pocketmine is dead. Genisys is more advanced and flexible. Also, 0.15.4 has protocol changes is that new skin pack are added.

[robske110]

I told them that they can change the protocol version in Info.php. You're advertising for searching 'survingoM

[Survingo]

"the fact pocketmine is dead"... Who said that it is an fact? Well, if you mean. Most community guys inclusive me mean that it is an fact pocketmine is alive. Everyone has his side ;) @robske110 xD

[robske110]

Quoting me:

And by the way: This project may be unofficially dead. We do not know if this repo will receive a commit EVER again.

[ClockProgramming]

@Survingo Well, it's a fact for me. Since you said "Everyone has his side ;)"

[ClockProgramming]

Also, pocketmine has missing features such as Mob AI. Many plugins will soon make this to provide player's satisfaction. Not only that, Many servers now switched into many third-party server hosting. LEET too.

[Survingo]

That's what forks do

No server network is using PocketMine nowadays

[ClockProgramming]

Yup. I recommend you to use fork for a while. Pocketmine is recruiting new members for while

[ZackLuvsGamez]

Is the phar downloadable on Android?

[craigbrian]

Wrong v15.0.4 is available and it works I tried it on my Multiworld SkyBlock Server https://www.mediafire.com/download/97aun4agqru4f6n https://app.box.com/s/833f28v50pu5tx4st0r9t7ygt8hdgge3

[archie426]

Bump it by doing the instructions supplied by Survingo at https://forums.pocketmine.net/threads/version-issues.18015/

[archie426]

robske, r u from ClearSky because ur kinda advertising. It is not dead.

[dktapps]

@archie426 actually it kind of is dead. Confirmed.

You may have noticed my PRs are closed. I was told (I won't say who by) to stop wasting my time because nobody will merge them. By a one-time PM team member.

[archie426]

Yes tou do have a point. However it is not completely dead

[robske110]

I define this repo as dead. No, actually i define exactly the commits here as dead. We'll not see any in any near time.

[richardpickett]

A couple months ago I thought I'd setup a minecraft server for my daughter and I to build on. I went with PocketMine, looked like it had the most features, wide range of plugins, etc.

https://github.com/PocketMine/PocketMine-MP/graphs/contributors

This page bothered me a little, but I took the time to download and set it up anyway. Another problem was the main instructions from the pocketmine website didn't give you a working server. I had to keep searching around for different install instructions before I got it to work. That means just to use the product the user has to figure it out - the product owner doesn't care that much if you can use it or not.

Anyway, back to why that github page bothered me - that first graph shows a lot of initial work and then it tapers off to just about nothing. The "a lot of initial work" is normal, that's when you're first building something out and you've got that fever to get something done. But the "tapers off to just about nothing" is definitely not normal, that's a sign of a dead project.

Especially when you think about something as critical as the current issue discussed on this thread - a simple change to allow a higher protocol number be accepted on the server. This simple change can't get addressed in 2 weeks, and the only workarounds presented are pulling the change needed from somewhere else.

-> That means the owner of the product really just doesn't care if you can use it or not. <-

As great as pocketmine may have been, that statement sums up it's current state.

It seems that although Shoghi didn't intend for his job change to affect PM, it actually has. His last greatest contribution seems to be the move to php7, which was certainly a great feat, but I can't find anything significant after that upgrade. And he rarely, if ever, logs into his own product's forum. That doesn't sound like a lot of commitment. I'm not putting him down - I'm just observing. Maybe he's had something else in life come up that we don't know. Got married, got sick (hope not). But whatever the reason is, the product owner hasn't been able to dedicate his time.

For PM to survive, it would take a couple devs who catch the fever and make regular contributions to it. At a minimum I'd expect to see someone at least fix "logged out due to Outdated server" within a day, two at the most.

I'm not going to advertise for Genisys, but since it was one of the other platforms brought up, I figure I should post it's "work history":

https://github.com/iTXTech/Genisys/graphs/contributors

You can see it's still quite active. And the other one mentioned was clearsky:

https://github.com/ClearSkyTeam/ClearSky/graphs/contributors

Not as much as Genisys, but it's still being actively developed.

I'll probably move off of PM, this obviously isn't working. Not sure which one I'll move too - that's why I can safely say I'm not advertising anything.

Thanks, be blessed,

Richard W. Pickett, Jr. President, CSR Technologies .com, Inc.

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Yes tou do have a point. However it is not completely dead

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[dktapps]

@shoghicp has the only set of keys to PocketMine. We're locked out of the house and nobody else can let people in. Sad to say ...

[archie426]

Goodpoint

[archie426]

Richard, PM is not like other companies. It is not all about the business for the founders and devs. And this goes for the other forks as well. They do not do it for a prophet. You should make sure you understand the project clearly before you jump into things. I made that mistake once. So maybe your (how can I put it) Right-wing opinion of a company does not apply to Pocketmine or its' forks. Sorry if i sound rude. You also obviously do not know how hard it is code, and the skill these devs have. I mean if you want it to be better why dont you make commits? So please do not to complain. All the staff are sidetracked with other stuff. They have lifes to u know. You can fix the outdated server error by asking other people. It is only the staff that are innactive. I'm not saying you should contribute, and i dont either, but I dont complain.

[ClockProgramming]

Guys, for any reason. @robske110 is just not advertising. There are other forks in there that are updated in all mcpe versions. @archie426 No, the staffs are not inactive. They left the project. Making PM died. You are right, people can just ask to other persons. But what if they gave you a malicious code injected to the modified PM? You can't trust anyone on the internet. Trust on people who gives true work.

As you see on the forums, the one staff on PM announce that they are recruiting new people. Which means the old staffs left. Your wrong. Please read before making any reasons.

@shoghicp promised us he will still work on PM. But as @Intyre said, "I have no contact with @shoghicp with many months" So, we don't know when he will come back.

[robske110]

And please take in consideration that if shoghicp isn't careful enough Mojang may DMCA PM [Due to him accidently copying variable names here or such minimalaties.]. And mojang is desperate to do so i think, we're a real issue for REALMS. (Well as i think about this maybe there are some humans at mojang, because they did not (yet) remove the external server feature).

[ClockProgramming]

@robske10 wow.. your right... Mojang has need to release a official software for servers now.

[DiegoGTRatty]

Mojang became EA.

Why do you think Realms cost money?

[karpovichv]

Why do you think Realms cost money?

Ehrm, maybe because it does..?

[ClockProgramming]

@DiegoGTRatty because it's hosted online and located at mojang?

[richardpickett]

(archie426) Richard, PM is not like other companies.

Who said anything about companies? I said "product". Shoghi is a producer. He's produced something. It's called PocketMine. The thing produced is called a product.

It is not all about the business for the founders and devs.

Didn't say it was. I'm just pointing out it's no longer supported and no one should have any expectation of future support from this product.

And this goes for the other forks as well. They do not do it for a prophet. You should make sure you understand the project clearly before you jump into things. I made that mistake once. So maybe your (how can I put it) Right-wing opinion of a company does not apply to Pocketmine or its' forks.

Right wing?

Company?

lol.

You're the only one talking about money, companies, profit (well, technically you mention prophet, which is kinda funny). I didn't even talk in these terms.

Sorry if i sound rude.

You don't sound rude. You sound ignorant. I write "Aaaaaaaa" and you argue "But Richard, 'Bbbbbbbbbb' is so wrong...."

Pay attention.

(archie426) Richard, if ur going to complain why dont you make commits?

Where is the complaint? I only point out PM is no longer supported.

Also, I said earlier the outdated server issue can be fixed by editing the .phar.

So easy that the Product Owner can't do it. That means he doesn't care if it's supported any more. That's all I'm saying.

You obviously do not know how hard it is to code.

You obviously know nothing about me.

Pocketmine (and its forks) are not for profit.

(sigh) "profit" again. I didn't say anything about profit...

They do not want just the money.

or money.

They just want to make a great server software that people will use and contribute to.

It may be true that they "want" to. But what we want to do and what we do are two different things. As you can see. What has been accomplished is a great (or was a great) server software that people can contribute to. The "will use" part has faded already.

So your right-wing view of a company does not apply to pocketmine (and it s forks)

What you really mean is your interpretation of what I've said into some right-wing statement about companies and profit doesn't apply to PocketMine.

Everything I've actually said before running it through your interpretation layer is perfectly true. PM isn't being supported any more. Unless some devs pick it up and run with it it's going to stay dead.

The next thing that will drop off will be the downloads. Then finally the users.

Of course there will always be that small group of users that will keep editing phar files and telling others how to do the same, so they can all continue to use something that has no new features while other similar products continue to improve and implement new features all around them.

Thanks, be blessed,

Richard W. Pickett, Jr. President, CSR Technologies .com, Inc.

[robske110]

Good explanation @richardpickett . And this repo is really dead, Intyre himself has pointed that out (not publicly though). I do not know if shoghicp plans to do ANYTHING. If I would be him and I created a project which has got the attention of over 1000 (probably 10000) I would NEVER throw it away. I may come to a point were i can't contribute to it anymore. But I would give the keys to it to someone who i trust and let him continue is. We're locked out of this Project.

[And giving Intyre the admin permission are a few clicks done in 1 minute. He could add @dktapps or other ppl that are actually good in coding and maintaining a project and we'd have an active project. An attempt to continue the original PM is currently made here: https://github.com/iTXTech/PocketMine-MP I recommend anyone who wants the clean codebase of PM, but at least protocol updates and fixes i recommend using that.]

[jojoe77777]

over 1000 (probably 10000)

Look at the plugin download counts on PocketMine Forums...

[ghost]

@richardpickett, 'finding developers' is not nearly as easy as it sounds. Not only that, but these developers will not 'catch the fever' mostly because of how horribly written and designed PocketMine is. The PocketMine community is very divided in every sense of the word so you're just going to have to take a side of Genisys/ClearSky if you want a working server.

[robske110]

The biggest design flaw is even starting to design a game server on PHP.

[DiegoGTRatty]

@GlitchPlayer AND consider that those servers are owned by Microsoft...

[DiegoGTRatty]

@richardpickett

PocketMine is like Need For Speed: World.

It certainly died, but enough support can "revive the dead".

[sergeysova]

When PM will update to v0.15.90?

[richardpickett]

Everyone that could answer that question were all holding their breath waiting for the update.

They've all died and won't be answering you.

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When PM will update to v0.15.90?

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[Survingo]

This repo won't update especially because PocketMine has a new GitHub group. Also wait until the original 0.16.0 will release and look again... Edit: Beta support is already added whoOps

[robske110]

@richardpickett actually, PM has begun it's rise again. Almost all original PM memebers are there, except shoghicp of course. https://github.com/pmmp/PocketMine-MP