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davidfarmer
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8 years ago Please check if what I did is adequate.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, kcrisman wrote:
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kcrisman
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8 years ago Seem fine, thanks for the quick response! But ... where is this css? I don't see any new commits, so it must be located on some server that is dynamically updated by @davidfarmer 😄 but I wonder when those things will make it back into this repo? If @rbeezer is doing it that way though then I guess you can close this.
rbeezer
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8 years ago MBX is the XML specification.
The conversion to AIM's HTML/CSS is a demonstration of MBX.
The HTML/CSS spec is an AIM project under David Farmer. (Just like LaTeX is not in MBX repo.)
On 07/14/2016 11:49 AM, kcrisman wrote:
Seem fine, thanks for the quick response! But ... /where/ is this css? I don't see any new commits, so it must be located on some server that is dynamically updated by @davidfarmer https://github.com/davidfarmer 😄 but I wonder when those things will make it back into this repo? If @rbeezer https://github.com/rbeezer is doing it that way though then I guess you can close this.
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rbeezer
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8 years ago Can we do "oblique"? Or should LaTeX switch to italic?
Which is right? I'd just like them to be consistent.
On 07/14/2016 09:56 AM, davidfarmer wrote:
Please check if what I did is adequate.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, kcrisman wrote:
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davidfarmer
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8 years ago Rob,
The CSS has "oblique" currently, because that is what you had in some old CSS that was quoted on this thread. (I had italic at first, but then switched.)
Probably it is bad to have too many things italic, and the title of a book does not need as much emphasis as something you really want to emphasize.
David
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Rob Beezer wrote:
Can we do "oblique"? Or should LaTeX switch to italic?
Which is right? I'd just like them to be consistent.
On 07/14/2016 09:56 AM, davidfarmer wrote:
Please check if what I did is adequate.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, kcrisman wrote:
(or worktitle or whatever replaces it, see #332)
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kcrisman
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8 years ago The HTML/CSS spec is an AIM project under David Farmer. (Just like LaTeX is not in MBX repo.)
I thought you might say something like that ... but then again, my web pages work just fine without me installing anything from David, whereas if I didn't have LaTeX installed I couldn't compile the results of the tex stylesheet. It's certainly not evident to a "typical" (think post-initial period) user that the css is liable to change at any moment due to the whims of @davidfarmer 😃 though luckily I trust him more than myself on most design decisions.
More to the point, it would be nice to have at least one "basic" boxed css styles - perhaps very minimal but with a template for what to change - for users to view. Perhaps there is such a template, but I don't think the current css files in the repo are that.
davidfarmer
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8 years ago There is nothing secret about the CSS: it is generated from the SCSS in this repository:
https://github.com/BooksHTML/mathbook-assets
In addition, there is a mathbook-add-on.css hosted on the AIM website, where I add new css as needed. For example, .booktitle is styled from there. Eventually the add-on will be incorporated into the main file.
Regards,
David
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Rob Beezer wrote:
MBX is the XML specification.
The conversion to AIM's HTML/CSS is a demonstration of MBX.
The HTML/CSS spec is an AIM project under David Farmer. (Just like LaTeX is not in MBX repo.)
On 07/14/2016 11:49 AM, kcrisman wrote:
Seem fine, thanks for the quick response! But ... /where/ is this css? I don't see any new commits, so it must be located on some server that is dynamically updated by @davidfarmer https://github.com/davidfarmer 😄 but I wonder when those things will make it back into this repo? If @rbeezer https://github.com/rbeezer is doing it that way though then I guess you can close this.
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kcrisman
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8 years ago Thanks, David. Again, as long as things "just work" obviously it doesn't really matter, but in the long run it surprises me a bit that one has this dependency that isn't really stated - or perhaps it now is but I haven't read all the documentation recently :) anyway, I should reiterate that the actual issue here is solved from my point of view, modulo this dependency question. I'll close this but obviously Rob can reopen if need be.
rbeezer
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8 years ago Pun observed. ;-)
Sorry for the noice - I was in a rush and did not take the time to double-check what was actually happening at this point. Thanks for the change.
Rob
On 07/15/2016 08:59 AM, davidfarmer wrote:
Rob,
The CSS has "oblique" currently, because that is what you had in some old CSS that was quoted on this thread. (I had italic at first, but then switched.)
Probably it is bad to have too many things italic, and the title of a book does not need as much emphasis as something you really want to emphasize.
David
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Rob Beezer wrote:
Can we do "oblique"? Or should LaTeX switch to italic?
Which is right? I'd just like them to be consistent.
On 07/14/2016 09:56 AM, davidfarmer wrote:
Please check if what I did is adequate.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, kcrisman wrote:
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rbeezer
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8 years ago (In reference to CSS hosted at AIM.)
On 07/15/2016 11:22 AM, kcrisman wrote:
Thanks, David. Again, as long as things "just work" obviously it doesn't really matter, but in the long run it surprises me a bit that one has this dependency that isn't really stated.
We get MathJax from their CDN. We get fonts from Google. We get code syntax highlighting from Google. We get CSS from AIM. The dependency is an internet connection.
Student Project: engineer a good totally offline version and automated process for updating key components (eg MathJax).
kcrisman
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8 years ago We get MathJax from their CDN. We get fonts from Google.
I didn't realize all that wasn't semi-locally hosted.
We get code syntax highlighting from Google. We get CSS from AIM. The dependency is an internet connection.
Fair enough.
Let me then keep hijacking by saying that, in this case, because the CSS is fairly tightly connected to the project (for instance, AIM is a MBX sponsor), perhaps there should be some sort of big series of signs somewhere saying
Need C-S-S?/Batteries included/But pull requests/don't go here, stupid/Burma-Shave
but I couldn't find it on the main pages. And instead there is still https://github.com/rbeezer/mathbook/tree/dev/css which might make one think that MBX 'natively' supports something that is actually updated along with all the many changes made on a daily basis :) E.g. at https://github.com/rbeezer/mathbook/blob/dev/CONTRIBUTING.md would be a good place.
davidfarmer
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8 years ago How about another key example: where do knowls come from? And what critical software do knowls rely on?
The real point that I think Rob is making: why focus on one or two out of the ten (or more) critical items that all have to be available and working correctly in order for the HTML version of your book to function properly?
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016, kcrisman wrote:
We get MathJax from their CDN. We get fonts from Google.
I didn't realize all that wasn't semi-locally hosted.
We get code syntax highlighting from Google. We get CSS from AIM. The dependency is an internet connection.
Fair enough.
Let me then keep hijacking by saying that, in this case, because the CSS is fairly tightly connected to the project (for instance, AIM is a MBX sponsor), perhaps there should be some sort of big series of signs somewhere saying
Need C-S-S?/Batteries included/But pull requests/don't go here, stupid/Burma-Shave
but I couldn't find it on the main pages. And instead there is still https://github.com/rbeezer/mathbook/tree/dev/css which might make one think that MBX 'natively' supports something that is actually updated along with all the many changes made on a daily basis :) E.g. at https://github.com/rbeezer/mathbook/blob/dev/CONTRIBUTING.md would be a good place.
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kcrisman
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8 years ago How about another key example: where do knowls come from? And what critical software do knowls rely on?
I don't know. The knowls are, however, at least inside my directory.
The real point that I think Rob is making: why focus on
I guess that this one seems different to me, at least in the sense of pretending it's really separate. What value does the AIM set of CSS have without this? Or perhaps in another way, it seems to me that everything other dependency is in some sense upstream, while the CSS is somehow downstream. Anyway, it's not worth arguing over if I'm the only one who cares, I'm fine dropping it. But it does seem like it's more like when they tried to imagine sagenb was "upstream" of Sage, which has since caused much grief even if it was a good way to speed up development at one point.
rbeezer
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8 years ago On 07/17/2016 06:15 PM, kcrisman wrote:
I don't know. The knowls are, however, at least inside my directory.
The Javascript for knowls comes from AIM. Knew I was forgetting something.
rbeezer
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8 years ago On 07/16/2016 06:26 PM, kcrisman wrote:
perhaps there should be some sort of big series of signs somewhere saying
See 098a6104
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