Music stutters on neko, weird on Windows.

[sruloart]

Possibly something about the need to load it first before you play it....

[NicoM1]

idk anything about this, I'd ask gama11

[sruloart]

It's more of an Openfl issue issue, but people have found ways around it, just need to do some research / optimizations...

[NicoM1]

ok I'm sure we'll figure it out, music isnt really my area....

[sruloart]

Weird also on html5, the solution, probably, is to load the assets with the game and not with the states, but we'll leave it to when we'll actually have sfx and music...

[NicoM1]

yeah, music is not really my concern, I cant make it, and am bad at choseing it, so I hope you know your stuff:D

[NicoM1]

music seems fully gone, leaving that to you....

[NicoM1]

nevermind I had muted it, i doubles up from the menu now, actually sounds kind of cool, I'll leave it for now so you can see:)

[NicoM1]

just survived 15 rounds with the doubled up music.....I actually enjoyed it.....quite a lot.....(the music)

bugs I noticed:

• health is supposed to go up one each round if its not max, it seemed to go down?
• frame rates dropped seemingly with high number of corpses

[sruloart]

• Tried it for a few rounds, I like the new health bar, the user can spot that very easily and anticipate how many hits he can sustain, so again, nicely done! Fun and simple.
• I don't like the double music at all, bahh, I'm actually thinking towards an oldschool sound for everything having the game's minimalist approach and all.
• I am however noticing a pretty cool vibe when you actually retry the game another music instance starts, so, if only we could somehow time when to start the music instances (with each retry, like making a gate that forces the player to enter [start the retry, and the music] at just the correct moment) it can actually lead to actually pleasing beat, which intensifies with every retry. Cool, but I think hard to master.
• Health did go up a tiny bit, but something is indeed wrong.
• Didn't reach that high up yet to notice :) It doesn't make a lot of sense, even 50-100 such sprites shouldn't cause a huge drop. Anyhow maybe when a zombie dies you should destroy him and place a death sprite instead? that's how the big boys are doing it.

[NicoM1]

I think maybe I had good timing with the music (or bad taste;)) did realize I wasn't even kill ing the zombies, so their update still ran, trying that first before desroying them completely, it could also just be garbage build up, which I never know what to do about, and is even weirder to deal with in scripts...

[NicoM1]

nevermind kill was not what I wanted

[NicoM1]

odd: spawned 200 zombies and it dropped to 20fps, and went in slow motion? everything moves with elapsed? I'm confused? also determined update takes ~2x as much time as draw, probably because everything is scripts....

[NicoM1]

gonna see if destroy ing the scripts when the zombie dies helps

[NicoM1]

60fps with 250 corpses:D although it was slow as can be killing them all (I really did do it all, god mode, but still took forever, and ran ~15fps)

[NicoM1]

one health bug (i think the only one) everytime you were restored to full health the health increase speed went down...(only for visuals, your health itself was normal)

[sruloart]

• :+1:
• Limit the number of possible zombies on screen then, and also set the projects fps to 30, it's a decent practice for Flash based games (it makes it less obvious when you have major frames-spikes).

[NicoM1]

well who is ever going to have 200 zombies? I think in practice its all good, just noticed something though, didnt it use to have a big camera deadzone? now the camera moves with the player?

[sruloart]

• You. and possibly me if you'd make a shotgun/mini-gun/anygun.
• wat

[NicoM1]

no guns for this, and scripts are just too slow I think, maybe next game:) and the camera feels different now, you used to have to go to the edges to move it....

[NicoM1]

last gif that showed it: https://twitter.com/nico_m__/status/515730449378078720

[NicoM1]

before menus!!! what changed?

[NicoM1]

somehow it wasnt defaulting anymore, because I nulled the default somehow I guess, so I updated IceE so I can use followstyle in scripts and set it back to platformer, jumps feel much better again, they had lost the sense of movement

[sruloart]

Scripts are a ton of work. And nothing's stopping me from ADDING a secret gun mode. WHAT? WHAT SECRET GUN MODE?! I CERTAINLY DIDN'T JUST REVEAL MY EVIL PLAN, OH NO SIR.

:|

[NicoM1]

you go ahead but it better be well hidden, ps. SHIFT+G+M is god-mode, but you have to press M last;)

[sruloart]

WHO TOLD YOU THIS?!

[NicoM1]

......I made it?

[NicoM1]

also GA appears to be skrewing up and I dont think its me?

[sruloart]

wat to all of the above. I was trying to be funny. Did you actually create gun-mode?

[NicoM1]

God-mode, not gun mode;) just makes your health not go down

[NicoM1]

and analytics arent working in real time is the other weird thing, but I havent changed that code sooooo

[sruloart]

Spooky. And I was getting all worked up :(

[NicoM1]

hey god mode can still be fun

[sruloart]

And let the zombies eat me forever? who am I, Prometheus? You're helping the zombies.

[NicoM1]

true true.,....ugg I need to work on the dog but I have a mental block where I have to animate its attack first and I cant do it....I just cant

[sruloart]

Leave the dog out for the moment, you can make an idle animation for the player (he doesn't seem to breath), and the retry monument looks a bit like a hairy leg :) Also, instead of a dog you can add a flying enemy, like a bat or something :)

[NicoM1]

I HATE that monument, but idk how to show enough lines...I guess 40 is overkill though, maybe 35, and maybe bat but how do you hit it?

[NicoM1]

better?

[sruloart]

Much.

[NicoM1]

thx

[NicoM1]

people may be able to go past tho....maybe if that ever happens I'll add a second monument

[NicoM1]

woah dude I'm really liking what your doing with the sound (I know it doesnt have music, I just mean the ambients) do you have rights to all this? one thing though:

• the hit sound is good, but theres a thwump sound after which is weird, maybe if that played when they died?

[sruloart]

• FreeSound, and I'm only using parts of non-limited creative commons licensed sounds, so we're good.
• It's not too cleaned yet, I'm just trying to get the overall vibe.
  • The jump has a bit of a metal/wind sound in its end. Probably will remove it, as it doesn't really fit.
  • The Thwump is actually me trying to avoid giving specific sounds to different attacks / deaths. This way you hit a zombie, and the sound fits both stunned (he's pushed back) and dead (breaking apart). It's far from perfect, but the alternatives (having a specific sound for anything) may not be that simple to carry out (judging by my experience with bites and footsteps). Will investigate further.

[NicoM1]

ok fixed your nulls, (death screen is separate, Jump.mp3 not jump.mp3) one thing about that before I move on: are you not getting good errors for those nulls? because it pretty much exactly tells me where they are, I build release do you do debug?

[NicoM1]

annnndd added the footsteps, I just loop the sound constantly and mute it if not moving

[sruloart]

• I've made a new jump (jump.mp3) and deleted the old one (Jump.mp3), also deleted the other themes (3bz) (so I couldn't have had such errors), so somehow you only had the old files in your directory? :p
• Anyhow, I usually use Adobe Scout but there's an unusually high number of exceptions, which will probably make me a crazy person, so I'm just trying to skip debugging if I have a relative idea what's going on (which I do, despite my rampant use of the word "weird" :)

[sruloart]

Also, the steps will require a different sound, as I didn't intended it to be played like that, so if you listen there's an annoying background noise that starts with every time you start walking. bahh

[NicoM1]

hmmmm on github the old jump is still there: https://github.com/Project-Blunder/TheGame/blob/master/assets/sounds/Jump.mp3

[sruloart]

It's not the old one, it's the new one, but for some reason it kept the old Jump name instead of jump :l It also doesn't mind that I have the file with a supposedly different name in my folder right now (ever since I've changed it yesterday) , so I'm guessing comparison is not case-sensitive? 3bztheme.mp3 was deleted either case...

Anyhow I'm removing the steps and using the jump.mp3 instead. Should work pretty well. Also, I'm lowering the volume of all the jumps (including the ones that aren't jumps) to make them sound a little more natural. Growling continues to elude me but I'm getting there. Some form of music is next on my list, but I'm not too sure about the style - very moody pipe-organ style, or half moody half upbeat style (i.e, like the previous example)?

[sruloart]

Also, noticed the player doesn't breath while on the menu :)

[NicoM1]

Maybe source trees skrewing up? Because I don't have the new jump...and the breathing is a bug I noticed, no idea why

On 2014-10-02, at 7:24 AM, Sruloart notifications@github.com wrote:

Also, noticed the player doesn't breath while on the menu :)

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