If you die before you login you lose your character

[d3x7ro]

If you die before you /login you lose your character on hardcore.

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[cheahjs]

Character deletion is handled client side, nothing we can do on the server end.

[d3x7ro]

Don't let them take damage until they login? Heal them like crazy until they login? The way its setup they can die before they login and continue to play for hours not even knowing they have lost their character and even worse none of it will be saved.

[Olink]

Character health is done client side, why should we ensure they login before dying?

[hakusaro]

How*

Lucas Nicodemus via Google Nexus 4 On Aug 15, 2013 6:17 AM, "Zack" notifications@github.com wrote:

Character health is done client side, why should we ensure they login before dying?

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/TShock/TShock/issues/511#issuecomment-22699508 .

[Olink]

I don't even understand what the problem is...

They lose their character?

Thats what hardcore mode is, when you die, your character drops everything. What does logging in have to do with that? Do you think we do something fancy for when they die in hardcore mode like virtually save their items?

[hakusaro]

I guess maybe if they can't affect the world, but it can affect them, they shouldn't really die in hardcore until after they can affect the server - but I don't see how we can do anything here...I'm lost.

Lucas Nicodemus via Web

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Zack notifications@github.com wrote:

I don't even understand what the problem is... They lose their character? Thats what hardcore mode is, when you die, your character drops everything. What does logging in have to do with that? Do you think we do something fancy for when they die in hardcore mode like virtually save their items?

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/TShock/TShock/issues/511#issuecomment-22707861 .

[Olink]

In that case, why not just force login before join, and done.

[d3x7ro]

Character health is done client side, why should we ensure they login before dying?

I don't even understand what the problem is...

You disable and debuff them so they cant do anything about attackers.

In that case, why not just force login before join, and done.

What if there username is different from their character name? or new users don't understand the server doesn't actually have a password and just go elsewhere?

[Olink]

You still havent told us why you need this...we don't understand the issue. You want us to protect your players from your other players?

The features you are looking for will never go into tshock, you want a plugin that protects your slow typing players from pvp whores.

[hakusaro]

Isn't there a config option that already exists that disables/debuffs you if you aren't logged in? I could see that being added if it doesn't exist already, but it could easily, very easily be a plugin instead.

Lucas Nicodemus via Web

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Zack notifications@github.com wrote:

You still havent told us why you need this...we don't understand the issue. You want us to protect your players from your other players?

The features you are looking for will never go into tshock, you want a plugin that protects your slow typing players from pvp whores.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/TShock/TShock/issues/511#issuecomment-22717918 .

[Olink]

@nicatronTg You misunderstood his statement. He is accusing us of debuffing and disabling his players and thus rendering them incapable of typing login since they are being killed as soon as they join. Sounds like he has a poor server spawn and new players get trolled.

Turning off requirelogin would stop them from being disabled/debuffed so they can run away before logging in or w/e tickles their fancy. I still think 5 minutes on the forums would have yielded a suitable solution that wouldn't require us to harass you about this. When someone reports a bug, we have to grill them.

[d3x7ro]

turning off requirelogin doesn't dampen ssi?

[hakusaro]

@Olink, oh. Okay then.

Lucas Nicodemus via Web

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 4:04 PM, d3x7ro notifications@github.com wrote:

turning off requirelogin doesn't dampen ssi?

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/TShock/TShock/issues/511#issuecomment-22734231 .