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A list projects to make emergency ventilators in response to COVID-19, focusing on free-libre open source
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A recent development in the ventilators story #74

Closed jety89 closed 4 years ago

jety89 commented 4 years ago

Something to be aware of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar5IYxznmi0 Doctors Say Ventilators Killing THOUSANDS, Will Stop Using Them The Red Elephants Vincent James

jety89 commented 4 years ago

The issue in this case seems to be wrong settings: inspirational pressure too high, leading to lung damage, somehow leading to some doctors refusing to use them altogether

RobertLRead commented 4 years ago

Thanks, I've read about the differences in opinion on this. I believe doctors are successfully learning how to treat the disease better as they gain more experience. I don't doubt these results.

However, I view it as the job of the engineering community to give doctors a full box of tools, not to tell them which tool to use. For the time being, I believe the open-source ventilator effort remains impactufl.

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Something to be aware of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar5IYxznmi0 Doctors Say Ventilators Killing THOUSANDS, Will Stop Using Them The Red Elephants Vincent James

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RobertLRead commented 4 years ago

Right -- and obviously, any DIY design has to be carefully tested and allow careful control for precisely that reason.

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The issue in this case seems to be wrong settings: inspirational pressure too high, leading to lung damage, somehow leading to some doctors refusing to use them altogether

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jety89 commented 4 years ago

Thanks for the feedback

jety89 commented 4 years ago

Some further development/debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz2gyhto-iI The Great Ventilator Fiasco of COVID19 | Are They Even Needed? Doctor Explains •Apr 24, 2020 Medlife Crisis

The gist of it is.. some insights from a medical professional. ... and a chance to laugh at our own inner Dunnig-Krueger

RobertLRead commented 4 years ago

Okay, this was valuable but I'm closing this issue now, thank you.